Yea, that top one is hella more dangerous.

I think we just need a couple more good judges and we'll get it done. The 2nd amendment is pretty ambiguous.

Is it all weird to know that you support the side that allows all this carnage to happen? Like, we could have a safer country. But your desire to collect toys is more important? Do you really believe the propaganda about your gun collection mattering if there was a war or is the US becomes a fascist state?

I'm specifically referring to an "I HAVE A GUN" coat Fly.

Not a well tailored topcoat which wouldn't conceal an AR very well.

I really think you should retake HS Civics if you think judges are the path to removing the 2nd Amendment.

I believe you're much, much smarter than this.

Nevermind the fact that a normal coat that comes down below the waist would easily conceal a gun slung diagonally across the back or chest on the average person.

From having to use a trenchcoat to 'well a well tailored coat couldn't do it' in like 10 posts. Nice.

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P.S. I know way more about American history than you. I know more about the law than you. Let's not waste our time discussing those issues.

An assault weapons ban would not make you less safe. I know you're terrified of encroaching gangs and tyrannical Agenda 21 agendas or whatever, but you'd be just as safe from coyotes with a 10 round magazine as a mil-spec STANAG.

It would not take away your existing guns, and you'd still be able to buy guns afterward. Just not guns with certain characteristics.

It's not just scaremongering about the possibility of gun control, the real trick the NRA pulled is scaremongering about the CONSEQUENCES of gun control.

lol at you

it doesn't have to be removed, just reinterpreted because it's absurdly ambiguous and ******s like Scalia went over the top to interpret it in a particular way

That's the part that sucks. There should be some gun nuts out there who recognize problems in our system, compare things that work in some states, and can help come up with better solutions. But instead it's a knee jerk clutch followed by running to the store to buy up the exact gun used to shoot 6-year olds like some morbid collect them all gimmick. Gross.

It's the Norquist pledge but with guns. With the paranoid getting dragged kicking and screaming to the table when the other side finally gets 51% of the public behind them. Congrats, we'll all end up with worse gun control drawn up by people who've never seen an assault rifle. But at least while you sit around at your home game complaining about the damned gubmint taking your AR-15 away you can feel comforted by the knowledge that you remained pure.

What?

Across the back is going to print like hell, across the front, either the barrel is coming out the bottom or the stock is coming out the top.

Yes, the previous ban was all posturing over a lesser component of gun violence.

But we don't need the high capacity repeaters for personal defense and they do get used for outrages.

Hopefully, the next ban will be on detachable magazine guns and high capacities. A number of us have fired rifles before and could advise the law writers.

If original intent is important, it really isn't so ambiguous. It was part of the states vs. federal struggle. Its purpose was to insure states retained a military, rather than giving feds a monopoly. An individual right to own guns was not at issue.

Even under Scalia's interpretation, as divined through Heller, there's nothing wrong with regulating what TYPE of guns are available. Heller was a blanket handgun ban. A 2nd amendment challenge to an assault weapons ban would be a difficult sell.

Ok, back to where you came from.

ITT we learn that DBL is very, very short. I currently possess an assault rifle that I could totally wear under a coat without being obviously armed.

Aren't you? Why do you need dozens of 30 round magazines? Do coyotes travel in packs of 600 these days?

What are you afraid of?

No. Average male dimensions from fingertips (arms at side, near bottom of buttocks) to shoulder is ~30 inches.

It is not easy to conceal an AR-15 under a normal coat that is a legal 16" barrel. It has a buffer tube and stays relatively long unless you get a tax to make a short barrel rifle.

Dude, they have no idea WTF an SBR is. They think these things fire full auto.

The AR-15 is not the only model of rifle currently available. The mini-14, to use a weapon also recently used in a mass shooting, can get down to 26" with a folding stock. Most AK-47 variants have similar dimensions.

What's the round capacity on the top one? Bottom one?

Just read a story about kids who escaped from the school and his at someone's house nearby. Guy helped them get in touch with all their parents. Then hours after the last kid left a distraught mom showed up looking for her son; shed heard some kids were hiding there. But no, her six year old son was dead.

I'm not sure I'm capable of participating itt constructively.

1 bullet at a time.

It's irrelevant. They both fire one bullet at a time. Except that top one is larger, more accurate, and more deadly.

And yet the hutjobs who shoot up schools seem to prefer the bottom one. Odd.

I regularly hear coyotes around our woods. Wanting to know why I should be shooting them.