Dick Morris (huge "school choice" voucher advocate, anti-Teacher's union crusader, and hilarious Election 2012 laughingstock) wants to put cops and metal detectors in every school. Presumably paid for by ....um..... who knows. http://www.dickmorris.com/put-metal-...v-lunch-alert/

Obama 'backs assault weapons ban'

DBL- I just want you to be clear as to what's happening here. You're bragging about how you're getting scammed. The NRA, a gun maker advocacy group, has gotten you to buy thousands of dollars of firearms from their clients that you have no practical need for.

For this service of scamming you, you are going to DONATE additional money to them. So that they can scam you, and people like you, more effectively in the future.

Capacity is incredibly relevant.

Say you wanted to eliminate a room of 20+ individuals - for the purpose of this exercise we'll say unarmed terrorists at close range. Which weapon would you choose?

Single shot pistols confirmed as efficient as those with 30 round mags. ONE BULLET AT A TIME!!!!!

I'd choose neither because that's bad strategy. If I had them in a room I'd safely remove them from 400+ yds out with that 30-06 (that's the top one btw).

I'm not really interested in explaining the lack of difficulty in magazine changes to you, but no. A single shot pistol/rifle is a wholly different animal.

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com...12/12/18/56795

Nah, I'm paranoid.

Obama's not gonna twist this tragedy into gun control legislation...

I can't even deal with these stories. I can't watch the coverage. This news story has affected me more than any other of my lifetime.

The heartbreak for these parents is just too much.

Oh, so no one needs an AR-15 except deranged psychopaths?

Why not just make a certain amount of bullets illegal to keep at home. If you want more bullets you have to keep them reserved at the gun store or something. And you can only take a certain amount of bullets home per month, or every other month. Make it illegal to keep the higher power ammo at home, but only available by pickup (an explanation such as range or hunting needs to be given to gun store). Make penalties for keeping the higher powered ammo at home. You can only buy ammo for one gun per month per person.

This way, when psycho's go on attacks they only have so much firepower. This way people are also protected when at home at the same time.

SuperSwag, bullets are easy to make.

in case it hasn't been posted

Yeah I know what kind of gun it is, I hunted deer growing up. I'm a terrible shot by the way.

What I don't think you're clear on - actually strike that. I know you're clear on it. You're just pretending to not understand. Capacity is incredibly important in knowing how many rounds can be fired in a short time span, even if they only shoot "one round at a time".

You know very well that if you wanted to kill 20+ people from range with that rifle, you'd never be able to do it. They'd run away, take cover, call in reinforcements that would shoot back.

Let's stop pretending you don't understand the difference between the two posted rifles, OK?

No, .223's have usages. They're great for pest/varmint control, they're fun to plink with.

It's certainly not an ideal round for killing a human though.

Oh I fully understand the differences.

I'm not sure you do.

I mean sure, if I wanted to die, doing it your way with the .223 and three mags (you'd need a BARE MINIMUM of 60 rounds to kill 20 people with a 223) and rushing in would be the way to go.

Military seems to think it's pretty ideal for that. Does any military in the world use something other than an intermediate-power rifle cartridge like the .223 for their standard issue rifles?

Fixed your post.

So you do see that the bottom rifle is more dangerous to a large group of people than the top. Thanks, glad you can stop pretending otherwise.

Odd how so many professional militaries choose those rounds for just that purpose.

Phrasing this **** like a goddamn hypothetical is a XPERT DEBATING MOVE, DBL. XPERT.

Are you aware that, in the past few days, someone who did want to die did manage to kill >20 people with the suboptimal .223 and an assault rifle?

In fact, I can't think of any significant mass shooting that used a bolt action hunting rifle. Those guys must just have lacked your tactical expertise.

Also militaries tend to favor the 5.56 assault rifle over the scoped .308. Perhaps buying decisions are also made by people who have never fired a rifle?

So you put words in my mouth then pretend I agree with you. Stay classy.

I put words in your mouth but you do agree with me.

Which rifle is best for killing a group of 20+ unarmed people that between shots would be able to run away/take cover/call for help that might shoot back? Top or Bottom? Answer honestly. They're not going to sit there and wait to be shot, they will take evasive action.

They don't. 75% of gun homicides are using handguns. 4% use rifles, 5% use shotguns (about 16% are uncategorized, though).

Utah sixth-grader found with gun in class reportedly says parents encouraged him after Connecticut shooting

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/18...#ixzz2FQyKFuNf


That is one sick gun culture America has.