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12-21-2008 , 07:15 AM

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Sometimes when people ask how I am, I intentionally say 'good', actually, so as to not sound like a high school teacher when talking with friends.

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12-21-2008 , 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jontsef

snowden, I have a feeling that besides the fact that you like the sound of negative concords, you also do it because you want to be on the same wave length as your audience, and perhaps to facilitate communication.

Am I off the mark here?

That's partially right. I use them mostly around those who use them themselves and people who are driven batty by them.

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12-21-2008 , 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Taso

Sometimes when people ask how I am, I intentionally say 'good', actually, so as to not sound like a high school teacher when talking with friends.

And the truth is, there are many grammarians and professors of linguistics who insist that 'good' is just as grammatically correct as 'fine' when responding to 'how are you?'

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12-21-2008 , 10:15 AM

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FlyWf

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Originally Posted by Taso

Sometimes when people ask how I am, I intentionally say 'good', actually, so as to not sound like a high school teacher when talking with friends.

I say good because I assume they are asking about my moral purity.

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12-21-2008 , 10:27 AM

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Do you guys ever find yourselves in situations where you intentionally say something that is not grammatically correct so that you don't come off as a snob?

yes, of course. not because i don't want to sound like a snob, but it's just slang basically. i use words like "ain't", "them" instead of "those", etc.

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12-21-2008 , 12:41 PM

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Lou Bega

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Originally Posted by jontsef

Do you guys ever find yourselves in situations where you intentionally say something that is not grammatically correct so that you don't come off as a snob?

I don't think I've ever spoken the word "whom" for precisely this reason.

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12-21-2008 , 01:38 PM

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Do you guys ever find yourselves in situations where you intentionally say something that is not grammatically correct so that you don't come off as a snob?

Heh, I deliberately used "misunderestimate" whilst at a meet-and-greet lunch with a new colleague -- just to see whether they'd think I knew what I was doing or not. Highly amusing when he did a double-take, then didn't say anything about it for several weeks.

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12-21-2008 , 07:48 PM

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I don't believe that everyone who says "I could care less" realizes that he is being sarcastic. But I cannot deny that the intonation is exactly as Steven Pinker describes here.

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12-21-2008 , 08:01 PM

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i mean you guys have good english or whatever and thats good but for all intensive purposes i dont think a few apostrophes make a big difference.

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12-21-2008 , 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by StrictlyStrategy

i mean you guys have wellenglish or whatever and thats good but for all intensive purposes i dont think a few apostrophes make a big difference.

fyp

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12-21-2008 , 10:11 PM

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I thought the phrase was "for all insensitive purposes".

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12-21-2008 , 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KnutderIkeaElch

well the weird post 3 blinds thing most likely is connected to the pot going to phil problem. and, as some of you stated, regardless wheather phil has anything to do with the pot going to him its obvious that he has noticed it and acted classless as always....

to get to the tecnical issue:
I've been programming software for quite a time and really really weird bugs happen. some of you stated that he might have a different client, but the client should have absolutley nothing to to with dealer issues (would be a crazy security leak!). since we are talking about someone like helmuth, who in my opinion would do anything to prove he can play poker with the best and win (which he is not able to) and a site like UB i would say it is way more likely that there is some fraudulent activity involved than a random bug that appeared only once in a lifetime especially to helmuth AND he didn't even react suprised AT all. software tweaks that allow fraud woul'd be quite a descent failure source because they are very unlikely to be checked by many employees and especially not by gaming comissions.

since UB is a licenced casino, did anyone of you write to company providing the license and got a response? i really wanna know what THEY have got to say about that, since it is their trustworthiness that suffers even more imho.

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12-21-2008 , 10:55 PM

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I'd like to submit something, but I can't insure it hasn't already been mentioned as this thread is foolishly long and I won't read all of it.

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12-21-2008 , 10:56 PM

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I thought the phrase was "for all insensitive purposes".

that makes no sense

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12-21-2008 , 11:03 PM

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I'd like to submit something, but I can't insure it hasn't already been mentioned as this thread is foolishly long and I won't read all of it.

OH JUST DO IT

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12-21-2008 , 11:46 PM

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I'd like to submit something, but I can't insure it hasn't already been mentioned as this thread is foolishly long and I won't read all of it.

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OH JUST DO IT

Owned.

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12-22-2008 , 01:01 AM

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that makes no sense

I was being face each us.

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01-29-2009 , 03:51 AM

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PSA: To peruse something is to read it very carefully, not to skim it.

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01-29-2009 , 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Claunchy

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PSA: To peruse something is to read it very carefully, not to skim it.

Love,
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Originally Posted by Merriam Webster

Main Entry pe·ruse

Pronunciation: \pə-ˈrüz\ Function:transitive verb Inflected Form(s) pe·rused; pe·rus·ingEtymology:Middle English, to use up, deal with in sequence, from Latin per- thoroughly + Middle English usen to useDate:1532 1 a: to examine or consider with attention and in detail : study b: to look over or through in a casual or cursory manner

ORLY?

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01-29-2009 , 11:31 AM

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Lou Bega

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I think that's a change that popular usage has forced them to make, because I can't think of any other words that mean both one thing and its diametric opposite.

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01-29-2009 , 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lou Bega

I think that's a change that popular usage has forced them to make, because I can't think of any other words that mean both one thing and its diametric opposite.

As opposed to changes by what other means?

That's pretty much how language works. And "scan" has undergone much the same transition.

By the way, I wouldn't describe those as diametric opposites—the diametric opposite of 'reading thoroughly' is imo 'ignoring'.

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01-29-2009 , 01:26 PM

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"cleave" is sorta like that too.

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01-29-2009 , 02:00 PM

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MrWookie

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Lou,

It's not a recent development.

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Originally Posted by The Oxford English Dictionary

Modern dictionaries and usage guides, perh. influenced by the word's earlier history in English, have sometimes claimed that the only ‘correct’ usage is in reference to reading closely or thoroughly (cf. senses 4a, 4b). However, peruse has been a broad synonym for read since the 16th cent., encompassing both careful and cursory reading; Johnson defined and used it as such. The implication of leisureliness, cursoriness, or haste is therefore not a recent development, although it is usually found in less formal contexts and is less frequent in earlier use (see quot. 1589 for an early example). The specific sense of browsing or skimming emerged relatively recently, generally in ironic or humorous inversion of the formal sense of thoroughness. Cf. SCAN v. for a similar development and range of senses.

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