Claunchy's opinion in this matter >>>> Taso's opinion in this matter.

Heard this gem on the radio today:

"The Heat are out quicking the Lakers"

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This will not stand.

this thread has gotten rediculous

Dear, everyone:

Just between you and I Its not really very nice "making" fun of peoples' whom are less smarter then you's guys should of thought about it before - you know - missunderestimating there feeling not everyone are perfect,
I've definately a bad feeling about all this grammer stuff literally and could care less



to paraphrase like "gob" said - verbatim - from arrested development

" COMON ! "

Is this the old "Kay-bec" versus "Kwuh-bec" issue? Having little sympathy for the foreign policies of Dominique de Villepin, I'm of the "Kwuh-bec" school, just in an effort to tilt those of the opposite persuasion on this issue.

another common one, From the zoo (posted by a mod no less)...

as if mods are supposed to be intelligent?

Saying "have" at the end of this sentence is redundant. You'd just say "Adam has more apples than I." Or me. Not sure, but you wouldn't say "than I have."

Of course I've = I have. I hear people regularly say "I've a question." or whatever.

more apples than I

But "I can't" is superfluous. Just say "No."

This thread be good.

Is this exceptable? (haha)

I see your point on redundancy but it's extremely common to throw in the extra have there. I think in practice I would either say me or I have there, though I could easily be wrong. Just saying I seems awkward, and it's especially awkward in the third person, as in "Adam has more apples than she."

but "adam has more apples than she." is absolutely correct grammatically.

I'm think you're right and I'm sure you know grammar better than I (!) but I still think it sounds awkward.

So both she or her are correct there? What about "she has"?

I'm strange in that I get annoyed by grammar despite not knowing it very well. Most of the grammar I know I learned from learning Spanish grammar. Someone smarter than me pointed out that saying good is a grammatically correct response to "how are you?". I'm still not sure that it is, but if so I'm thrown off because in Spanish they have two verbs meaning to be. Roughly speaking one refers to the temporary condition and the other is permanent. If someone asks how you are then they'll use the temporary one and saying good would make no sense unless you are Dr. Jekyll.

It only sounds awkward because nobody talks like that. Not because it's wrong.

Some people think it's awkward to lead out into a 4 way pot with an OESFD because you don't have anything yet. It feels icky.

I, too, add the extra "have" at the end, if I'm speaking, but it isn't necessary. I just don't want to come off as more of a pompous ass than I already do, around certainy company.

Just add "do(es)" to the end of the sentence. Bam, no more awkwardness.

Adam has more applies than I do. Adam has more apples than she does. Ez game.

You mean you want Cheez-It. The plural and singular are the same.

no, only "she" is correct. "adam has more apples than her" is incorrect.

"... than her" is OK. In this case, "than" is being used as a preposition meaning "in comparison to".

In "... than she", "than" is being used as a conjunction, which is OK too.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/than%5B2%5D

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it's not an issue of looking dumb, it's that if someone said it to you you'd think they were an alien who learned english from a style manual and had never actually spoken it.

Do you guys ever find yourselves in situations where you intentionally say something that is not grammatically correct so that you don't come off as a snob?

Nah. I do it because I'm an *******, though.

Like I'll say 'irregardless' because I know it pisses people off. I almost never say regardless anymore - and its not just habit, I make a real effort to say "ir".

I use neg concords in speech reasonably often in non formal settings. I like the sound of them and there's a bit of taso's reason in there as well.

I love the word irregardless.

I'm referring mainly to situations when you know for certain that your conversation partners simply don't care for grammar, not when you know there's a good chance using made up words or incorrect grammar might piss them off.

snowden, I have a feeling that besides the fact that you like the sound of negative concords, you also do it because you want to be on the same wave length as your audience, and perhaps to facilitate communication.

Am I off the mark here?