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09-05-2022 , 09:15 PM

#2901

SoCalQuest

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I imagine exchanges will announce their plans for the fork before the merge, I'd probably just wait to see which will have it available right away and have the eth there. Otherwise, just leave it all in trezor.

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09-12-2022 , 08:29 PM

#2902

BagOfSuck

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Originally Posted by SoCalQuest

Coinbase released their word on it a few hours ago via twitter. Seems as though they are playing it by ear regarding ETHW.

However I saw Poloniex and a few other exchanges I donÂ’t use said theyÂ’ll support it.

In the event I just hold on Trezor and Ledger, the ETHW will just appear in my wallet if thereÂ’s a fork?

SoCal, how are you preparing?

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09-12-2022 , 10:43 PM

#2903

SoCalQuest

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Deribit will support the fork if you have access. I won’t be getting the fork, I’m staked.

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09-13-2022 , 03:33 PM

#2904

LoveThee

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How much is gas rn?

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09-13-2022 , 03:49 PM

#2905

Brock Landers

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Originally Posted by LoveThee

How much is gas rn?

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=how+m...+gas+right+now

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09-13-2022 , 04:26 PM

#2906

LoveThee

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Originally Posted by Brock Landers

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=how+m...+gas+right+now

Gee thanks

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09-13-2022 , 04:58 PM

#2907

housenuts

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https://etherscan.io/gastracker

https://www.blocknative.com/gas-estimator (I use their extension)

https://www.gasprice.io/ (used to use this extension, but started borking)

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09-13-2022 , 05:16 PM

#2908

LoveThee

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Thanks.

So gas fluctuates between 20 and 40 Gwei right now. How much is that equal to in USD?

The website says it's like 70 cents.

But if I try to workout how much that is in USD

If 1 ETH is at 1600 USD
1 wei is 1ETH/10^18
1 Gwei is 10^9 wei

30Gwei is half a hundredth of a cent? That doesn't sound right.

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09-13-2022 , 05:23 PM

#2909

johnnyBuz

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Originally Posted by housenuts

https://etherscan.io/gastracker

https://www.blocknative.com/gas-estimator (I use their extension)

https://www.gasprice.io/ (used to use this extension, but started borking)

Here's another

https://ethgasstation.info/

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09-13-2022 , 05:58 PM

#2910

housenuts

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Originally Posted by LoveThee

Yes but depending on the tx it uses lots of gwei.
21,000 for sending ETH, which is the cheapest you can do. Hundreds of thousands for various smart contract functions.

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09-13-2022 , 06:09 PM

#2911

LoveThee

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Originally Posted by housenuts

Yes but depending on the tx it uses lots of gwei.
21,000 for sending ETH, which is the cheapest you can do. Hundreds of thousands for various smart contract functions.

Oh ok, so 21k gas is the minimum expenditure required to modify the blockchain.

The yellowpaper checksout in section 5 and Appendix G

https://ethereum.github.io/yellowpaper/paper.pdf

So the cost of an empty transaction works out to 1USD. This makes more sense.

Thanks!

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09-13-2022 , 06:17 PM

#2912

LoveThee

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Can you help me work out the gas cost of storing a url to the blockchain? Say 20 characters long.

I think that the fee to be paid is the 20k SStore operation (+ the 21k tx cost), but I'm unsure how many bytes would be stored.

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09-13-2022 , 06:19 PM

#2913

LoveThee

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Originally Posted by LoveThee

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It seems that SStore stores a word and words are 4 bytes. So the cost of each 20 char message would be 121k gas, roughly 6$.

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09-14-2022 , 07:00 PM

#2914

SoCalQuest

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Happy Merger Day!

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09-15-2022 , 02:56 AM

#2915

housenuts

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MERGED

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09-15-2022 , 04:27 AM

#2916

Hoagie

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That seems to have gone well.

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09-15-2022 , 08:02 AM

#2917

pocket_zeros

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Originally Posted by Hoagie

That seems to have gone well.

Agreed, although it will take some to determine if someone has found a security vulnerability in the new protocol, which they'd likely keep quiet until they've bled millions off investors.

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09-15-2022 , 09:15 AM

#2918

SoCalQuest

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That seems unlikely. They had multiple test nets that have merged successfully already. There was very little risk to the actual merge.

ETHW has been released on FTX and worth 23.1.

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09-15-2022 , 10:06 AM

#2919

Hoagie

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Originally Posted by SoCalQuest

That seems unlikely. They had multiple test nets that have merged successfully already. There was very little risk to the actual merge.

ETHW has been released on FTX and worth 23.1.

Dis they get their chain ID changed? I read something about huge security issue if they didn’t.

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09-15-2022 , 10:59 AM

#2920

johnnyBuz

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If you want to add ETH POW to your MetaMask to access the airdrop:

Network Name: ETHW-mainnet
New RPC URL: https://mainnet.ethereumpow.org/
Chain ID: 10001
Currency Symbol: ETHW
Block Explorer URL: https://mainnet.ethwscan.com/

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09-15-2022 , 11:54 AM

#2921

SoCalQuest

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Originally Posted by Hoagie

Dis they get their chain ID changed? I read something about huge security issue if they didn’t.

I'm certain Sam and FTX have that figured out.

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09-15-2022 , 12:00 PM

#2922

pocket_zeros

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Originally Posted by SoCalQuest

That seems unlikely. They had multiple test nets that have merged successfully already. There was very little risk to the actual merge.

ETHW has been released on FTX and worth 23.1.

It's not the act of merging I'd be worried about. It's the new protocol itself.