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Video Proof-Hit BetOnline BBJ but got disconnected when I clicked call. Resolved, Post 356 Video Proof-Hit BetOnline BBJ but got disconnected when I clicked call. Resolved, Post 356

05-28-2020 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
How could all sports being cancelled effect a sports book? Are you seriously this unimaginative?
if they kept player funds separate it shouldn't

if they acted like an insurance company and invested the money being held instead of holding it or using it for expenses etc then yeah, it could be a pretty big problem - this is exactly the same type of thing that exposed that full tilt didn't actually have the player funds and this reeks of that same exact situation repeating itself
05-28-2020 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
Does any financial institution have the ability to pay out all its customers at this exact moment?
Are you comparing a player pool wanting to cashout it's deposits from a poker site with a run to the banks?
05-28-2020 , 02:51 PM
Rough. I'd change the BBJ code for the future, at the least, to auto trigger as soon as both hands are made on the turn, and payout after the hand is completed regardless of action.

I don't see a compelling argument for having it otherwise.
05-28-2020 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Stlls
Are you comparing a player pool wanting to cashout it's deposits from a poker site with a run to the banks?
It's similar to an investment account, yes. You put a sum of money on the site. You invest in poker games. They take a fee. Rinse and repeat.
05-28-2020 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Real_
Rough. I'd change the BBJ code for the future, at the least, to auto trigger as soon as both hands are made on the turn, and payout after the hand is completed regardless of action.

I don't see a compelling argument for having it otherwise.
I agree going forwards this should be changed. I think once the 2 qualifying hands are made disconnection should become irrelevant, as nobody is folding quads for 100bbs on BBJ table.
05-28-2020 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
It's similar to an investment account, yes. You put a sum of money on the site. You invest in poker games. They take a fee. Rinse and repeat.
If all people want there money from a bank, the bank can’t stop them, maybe take some time to come up with actual dollar bills.

As for the poker site all there cash is electronic l, they either have the money or they don’t. If they segregated player funds they have the funds, if they don’t, maybe they don’t have the money.
05-28-2020 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
Now, I will say dramatic decreases in limits like we see from BOL is concerning, but the idea that all funds are in a separate account or whatever just isn't realistic.
Have you heard of pokerstars? All the deposits are segregated in trust accounts so it seems to be realistic for them.

Secure Account Segregation
Players’ funds and account balances are held in segregated accounts by us, and are not used for any operational expenses. These segregated accounts are managed by a leading European bank. This arrangement ensures that we can at all times fulfil our monetary obligations toward our online players, and provides further reassurance that player funds are always secure with us.

https://www.pokerstars.uk/poker/real-money/

Only a UK facing link sorry.

I don't understand what covid-19 has to do with reducing peoples ability to withdraw. Its been said betonline is a sportsbook first and poker site second. So as soon as all sports are suspended they suddenly decide we can't let you withdraw your money as the main purpose for it being on our site is no longer relevant. Doesn't make much sense for a solvent company in my eyes.

Last edited by U shove i call; 05-28-2020 at 03:31 PM.
05-28-2020 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by U shove i call
Have you heard of pokerstars? All the deposits are segregated in trust accounts so it seems to be realistic for them.

Secure Account Segregation
Players’ funds and account balances are held in segregated accounts by us, and are not used for any operational expenses. These segregated accounts are managed by a leading European bank. This arrangement ensures that we can at all times fulfil our monetary obligations toward our online players, and provides further reassurance that player funds are always secure with us.

https://www.pokerstars.uk/poker/real-money/

Only a UK facing link sorry.
Thank you for this. Do all sites do this? GG, Party, WinMax, DraftKings, etc? Why do they have withdrawal limits if that's the case?
05-28-2020 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
You do realize most of the money you put into the bank goes to someone else as a loan, right? Banks literally couldn't pay everyone at once because they'd have to collect from everyone that's got a loan with them.

Again, a poker site is very similar to an investment site, which have withdrawal limits because they don't have or need to have all funds immediately available. They leverage your money to invest and make more money. That's how business works.

Now, I will say dramatic decreases in limits like we see from BOL is concerning, but the idea that all funds are in a separate account or whatever just isn't realistic.

I used to work for a bank so I’m aware how they work, and I can assure you it’s not the same as a poker site especially an unregulated one.
05-28-2020 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
Thank you for this. Do all sites do this? GG, Party, WinMax, DraftKings, etc? Why do they have withdrawal limits if that's the case?
jfc i thought you were trolling, you legit were taking a hard stance on something you didn't know the first thing about?

try google next time instead of derailing a thread... seriously man wtf
05-28-2020 , 03:38 PM
I definitely was wrong about separate funds. Glad I got the opportunity to ignore rickroll though. One of the worst posters on 2p2. I'll see myself out.
05-28-2020 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
You do realize most of the money you put into the bank goes to someone else as a loan, right? Banks literally couldn't pay everyone at once because they'd have to collect from everyone that's got a loan with them.

Again, a poker site is very similar to an investment site, which have withdrawal limits because they don't have or need to have all funds immediately available. They leverage your money to invest and make more money. That's how business works.

Now, I will say dramatic decreases in limits like we see from BOL is concerning, but the idea that all funds are in a separate account or whatever just isn't realistic.
You have no clue what you're talking about.

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Originally Posted by BetOnline Mike
I agree going forwards this should be changed. I think once the 2 qualifying hands are made disconnection should become irrelevant, as nobody is folding quads for 100bbs on BBJ table.
You've got some nerve dude ...
05-28-2020 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BetOnline Mike
I agree going forwards this should be changed. I think once the 2 qualifying hands are made disconnection should become irrelevant, as nobody is folding quads for 100bbs on BBJ table.
I couldn't agree more...
05-28-2020 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
I definitely was wrong about separate funds. Glad I got the opportunity to ignore rickroll though. One of the worst posters on 2p2. I'll see myself out.
coming from you that's a shining endorsement

you give every thread aids but this entire time i never realized it was because you're just ******ed
05-28-2020 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Stlls

You've got some nerve dude ...
Are you mad at him for sympathizing and wanting a rule change?
05-28-2020 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
Thank you for this. Do all sites do this? GG, Party, WinMax, DraftKings, etc? Why do they have withdrawal limits if that's the case?
I would say DraftKings def does this, they're a publicly traded company.
05-28-2020 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Real_
Rough. I'd change the BBJ code for the future, at the least, to auto trigger as soon as both hands are made on the turn, and payout after the hand is completed regardless of action.
Why not on the flop?
05-28-2020 , 03:56 PM
Can't see why it shouldn't be as soon as 2 live qualifying hands are made.
05-28-2020 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BetOnline Mike
I agree going forwards this should be changed. I think once the 2 qualifying hands are made disconnection should become irrelevant, as nobody is folding quads for 100bbs on BBJ table.
Going forward? Seriously? Are you really this big of an idiot?

Get this fvcking table paid and stop with all the bull****.
05-28-2020 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
Can't see why it shouldn't be as soon as 2 live qualifying hands are made.
You think they should use the same rules as GG Poker? https://en.ggpoker.com/promotions/big-hand-jackpot/
05-28-2020 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
You think they should use the same rules as GG Poker? https://en.ggpoker.com/promotions/big-hand-jackpot/
Yeah seems d/c doesn’t cancel the win, seems they spent some time making clear rules in case something like this happenS

But says must be checked down?

Who would check down nuts or second nuts Being either quads or better

Last edited by golfbum983; 05-28-2020 at 04:10 PM.
05-28-2020 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
Nothing negative? Compliment?
YES! He was complimenting you on how deftly you assign no blame to your favorite site when it magically froze up when the OP was on the verge of winning a BBJ!

Just a miraculous coincidence right brah?
05-28-2020 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
You think they should use the same rules as GG Poker? https://en.ggpoker.com/promotions/big-hand-jackpot/
Seems to be similar to what I stated. Do you disagree? If so, why?


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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
YES! He was complimenting you on how deftly you assign no blame to your favorite site when it magically froze up when the OP was on the verge of winning a BBJ!

Just a miraculous coincidence right brah?
Not even the OP thinks it was likely to be caused intentionally by the site.

Isn't there a conspiracy theory daycare thread around here for people like you similar to what the mods do with riggies in the Internet forum?

Last edited by MCAChiTown; 05-28-2020 at 04:26 PM.
05-28-2020 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BetOnline Mike
$100k a day was our max amount to WITHDRAW prior to Covid 19
And? When I was 18 I was much thinner. Who cares, it is extremely shady that you are allowing people to put a friggin 100 grand onto your scam site but it would take 33+ weeks for him to withdraw it! And you are now trying to claim everyone else is doing it(which isn't true).

I'd still like to get back to the miraculous coincidence that happened to occur 10 seconds before a bad beat jackpot should have hit. Are you guys insolvent? Do you even have the money at the moment to pay a BBJ? It doesn't seem likely based on lots of factors pointed out by sharp people in this thread.
05-28-2020 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Stlls
Are you comparing a player pool wanting to cashout it's deposits from a poker site with a run to the banks?
Ridiculously he is. This guy has shilled for them here in every post he makes. Defends them at all costs. Strange.

      
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