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04-19-2011 , 01:53 PM
6.52pm here in Ireland on Tuesday evening and there's ~220K players on Stars.

Stars at least don't seem to be affected all that much.
04-19-2011 , 01:53 PM
I am a US player and have a good friend who lives in France. I thought I rembered something about FTP pulling out of France or something. Does anyone know if French can play on FTP? I would like to eventually (hopefully) transfer my money to him or even possibly play as him. THanks
04-19-2011 , 01:54 PM
I'm sure having all the American grinders booted from online poker is going to be pretty nice for all non-American poker players. It will also be just a tiny bit harder for Americans to claim their country is the "land of the free." It is more appropriately, as Adam Bilzerian's book says: America: Land of the Free, My As
04-19-2011 , 01:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LOLNHDONKWP
6.52pm here in Ireland on Tuesday evening and there's ~220K players on Stars.

Stars at least don't seem to be affected all that much.
Oh yes they are affected much. Stars usually has more than 250k players at this time of the day.

I checked the games I used to play, and there is much less number of games running at higher buyins.

This **** affects everyone, not just Americans.
04-19-2011 , 02:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bleurain
Uh ohh.. Which room was it from? And how were you notified (or did you just notice it on your bank statements) ?
Came back as unpaid. Paper checks are currently ****ed. also **** you morons who are hating on the DOJ. You are acting like the dumb boyfirend who gets mad at the other guy for sleeping with his girlfriend when the bitch cheated on you. idiots. Be mad at the ****ing UIGEA not the enforcement of it.
04-19-2011 , 02:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by atel2525
I am a US player and have a good friend who lives in France. I thought I rembered something about FTP pulling out of France or something. Does anyone know if French can play on FTP? I would like to eventually (hopefully) transfer my money to him or even possibly play as him. THanks
No, the French can't play at FTP.com. They can play only at FTP.fr, which is a completely separate site and requires a separate poker client. So I doubt you can transfer funds from your .com account to your friend
04-19-2011 , 02:29 PM


Game over.
04-19-2011 , 02:49 PM
if US players cannt get thier money how then are stars/tilt employees gonna be paid???
04-19-2011 , 02:51 PM
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=...c8483ad2408ee7

reads like they are top shelf
04-19-2011 , 03:07 PM
lol 270k ppl online at stars

??
04-19-2011 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecastyles
lol 270k ppl online at stars

??
Look closer, they are mostly low buyin donks lol
04-19-2011 , 03:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaviBocce
Look closer, they are mostly low buyin donks lol
Right, they're not people.

Facepalm.
04-19-2011 , 03:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vuggie
No, the French can't play at FTP.com. They can play only at FTP.fr, which is a completely separate site and requires a separate poker client. So I doubt you can transfer funds from your .com account to your friend
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04-19-2011 , 03:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by knef
this is ****ing hilarious...wp
04-19-2011 , 03:53 PM
Some US Pro's are still able to play on FT...

> If FT has shut down US Play like they say, than some have more access & $$ on FT than u or I

> When these sites shut down US play they lost at least approx., 50% of their Customers, Revenues & Rake,

> Plus they have to meet withdrawals from US Players that can no longer play on their Site(s).

Anyone from the US still able to play as of Tuesday onward?

I have no prob logging in from Canada at the new UK site.
04-19-2011 , 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PANAMHIEST


Game over.
wp nh
04-19-2011 , 03:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarnGoodPoker
I'm not going to even try searching for this so if it's been covered sorry.

On the FBI notice... the 3rd paragraph says:
"For persons engaged in the business of betting or wagering, it is also a federal crime to knowingly accept, in connection with the participation of another person in unlawful internet gambling, credit, electronic fund transfers, or checks (31 U.S.C. && 5363 5366)"

Are they trying to say that it is a federal crime for PLAYERS to accept a cheque or ETF? Or Banks? or someone else?
No, not players. Most players will not meet the legal test to be considered "persons engaged in the business of betting or wagering". I'm less sure what happens to people who list themselves as professional poker players for tax purposes, and even less sure what happens to a cassino operator who plays online poker.

This passage is mostly intended to mean that it is illegal for the operator of a gambling business to accept payments for illegal gambling.
04-19-2011 , 04:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PANAMHIEST


Game over.
Nice one.

I was just listening to "we are the world - we are the children" when I tought...hey that would be an amazing song for the current situation.

Of course it would need some adjustments:

There comes a time
When we head a certain call
When the poker-world must come together as one
There are people dying
And it's time to lend a hand to life
The greatest gift of all

We can't go on
Pretneding day by day
That someone, somewhere will soon make a change
We are all a part of
God's great big poka-family
And the truth, you know poka is all we need

[Chorus]
We are the world
We are the grinder
We are the ones who make a brighter pay-day
So let's start receiving
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lives
It's true we'll make a better pay-day
Just you and me

Send them your heart
So they'll know that someone cares
And their lives will be stronger and free
As God has shown us by turning stone to bread
So we all must lend a helping starting-hand

[Chorus]
We are the world
We are the grinder
We are the ones who make a brighter pay-day
So let's start receiving
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lives
It's true we'll make a better pay-day
Just you and me

When you're down and out
There seems no hope at all
But if you just believe
There's no way we can fall
Well, well, well, well, let us realize
That a change will only come
When we stand together as one

[Chorus]
We are the world
We are the grinder
We are the ones who make a brighter pay-day
So let's start receiving
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lives
It's true we'll make a better pay-day
Just you and me
04-19-2011 , 04:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoulder
omfg so good
04-19-2011 , 04:11 PM
Here's an email I received from PokerStars when I asked them about US players getting their money back... sure, this could be nonsense but at least their official position isn't "sorry, you're **** out of luck"





Hello,

Thank you for your email.

We apologize for the delay in responding to your email.

Unfortunately we are unable to immediately process cashout requests for US
players as a result of the legal developments in the United States. We are
making it a priority to work with the relevant authorities to secure the
return of funds as soon as possible. We will promptly provide you with
additional information as soon as it becomes available.

We apologize for the inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your
patience.


Regards,

SimonD
PokerStars Support Team
04-19-2011 , 04:15 PM
http://www.gambling911.com/gambling-...se-041911.html

interesting thing I found in this link

At one point during Elie's 10-minute court appearance, Cowden handed a prosecutor a small box containing what he said was a 500 gigabyte hard drive.





player lists?
04-19-2011 , 04:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frack
Here's an email I received from PokerStars when I asked them about US players getting their money back... sure, this could be nonsense but at least their official position isn't "sorry, you're **** out of luck"





Hello,

Thank you for your email.

We apologize for the delay in responding to your email.

Unfortunately we are unable to immediately process cashout requests for US
players as a result of the legal developments in the United States. We are
making it a priority to work with the relevant authorities to secure the
return of funds as soon as possible. We will promptly provide you with
additional information as soon as it becomes available.

We apologize for the inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your
patience.


Regards,

SimonD
PokerStars Support Team

Yeah I'll believe my Rollz are safe with SimonD poor guy working at stars. How high up on the pole ?

Very re-assuring lolz. I feel sooooo much better knowing I can't withdraw my money now! Bahaa, Sheep.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMicrosPoker ... haha

Last edited by canuck11; 04-19-2011 at 04:22 PM.
04-19-2011 , 04:20 PM
So all you rovin’ gamblers, wherever you might be
The moral of the story is very plain to see
Make your money while you can, before you have to stop
For when you pull that dead man’s hand, your gamblin’ days are up

- Bob Dylan

04-19-2011 , 04:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PANAMHIEST
Game over.
Nobody had noticed, thanks
04-19-2011 , 04:28 PM
"The US Attorney also commented on the freeze placed on player funds, saying:

“We are looking at the funds and accounts to determine if they are the profits of an illegal enterprise,” Langmesser said. “The funds won’t be available until a determination has been made,” she said."

http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/...35&findnew#new

For an impartial view from a blogger who is a real smart guy. Remember he doesnt state the negative is certain but is certainly possible.

Now my take :

I deposit a check in Bank of America.

They make note of the check and send it to their processing office in New Orleans.

New Orleans gets hit by a tsunami , destroys the building and washes all records out to sea.

Bank of America then refuses to honor my check because " Your money got washed out to sea. "

WTF WTF WTF !!!!!! ?????


FTP has your money and FTP has legal problems. They are mutually exclusive. Some bank accounts have been seized. Who gives a ****? Open another bank account wherever you have to ( you still have enough money to pay me ) , dont break any laws in the new bank and have them send me the money you owe me. The company still has money somewhere and the company stills owes me money. Your legal problems for money laundering or traffic tickets or boffing underage girls have nothing to do with the money you owe me.

You got my money ........ship it !

Pay your legal fees and fight your court battles with company money. My money is my money you are just holding and the suit filed against FTP is the responsibility of the company to fight with the companies money. ANNNNNNNNNND .....pay any penalties and fees out of company money and not my money which is mine and not yours ~!!!! LMAO

FTP may have to report lower earnings next quarter but they cant use my money to ofset their loss.

I do business with this company, I didnt sign on to pay all their misc fees and *** ups.

I buy Pepsi at Circle K. ( do business with them ) That doesnt mean i am a co defendant in a lawsuit against Circle K.


I want my $2.50 !!!!!

      
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