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04-20-2011 , 08:31 PM

#6501

bamyeah33

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 302

no more poker for usa

04-20-2011 , 08:32 PM

#6502

RAKER19

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by obsidian

Big surprise, you wrong again. Casino's allow wire transfers from out of state. Would be great if you stopped spreading false information.

Gambling is legal in Casinos. I pretty much thought that this went without saying. A gaming "web site" is not a casino. Most, are Not licensed. And most are overseas. And the wire act of 1961 says this is illegal. However you would like to interpreted that law is up to you. I had no idea that you were a lawyer. But until you go to court, and argue different, then this is the law right now. Please stop saying that I'm spreading false information. Please look it up at least, before you call me out on something. Don't just read me a card that you got out of a drawer, in your LasVegas hotel room.

04-20-2011 , 08:34 PM

#6503

corkyhouse

stranger

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 4

What is happening with AP and UB payouts?

04-20-2011 , 08:37 PM

#6504

TheJudge

stranger

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolnout

from stars yes - full tilt is still in limbo.

You will not be able to play real money games or FT or Stars if you're american for the foreseeable future.

It is highly likely he will remain american for the forseeable future!

04-20-2011 , 08:37 PM

#6505

BlitzPlayer

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 8,532

Went on vacation for a few days to get rid of no poker stress. updates?

04-20-2011 , 08:49 PM

#6506

vig

adept

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,040

Quote:

Originally Posted by corkyhouse

What is happening with AP and UB payouts?

Play continues with no hope of pay.

04-20-2011 , 08:56 PM

#6507

bamyeah33

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 302

players funds were never an issue for th gov't..however...poker is dead in usa now..time to join a softball league/watch porn

04-21-2011 , 01:40 AM

#6508

AllinLoser

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 367

so probably a good idea for any US player to withdraw everything they have on PS/tilt (when able to), correct?

04-21-2011 , 02:36 AM

#6509

Posiedon

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,473

cliffs of last 30-35 hours plz.

04-21-2011 , 02:38 AM

#6510

n0nplussed

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,488

Quote:

Originally Posted by Posiedon

cliffs of last 30-35 hours plz.

DoJ releases statement saying FT and Stars have their US domain names back to facilitate player withdrawals.

Stars says shortly after: Yo US folk - expect to be able to withdraw within a few weeks.

FT says shortly after: Yo US folk - your funds are still frozen. The government isn't letting us get at them. Plz wait + pray kthx.

04-21-2011 , 02:45 AM

#6511

HVEEPOKER

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 255

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllinLoser

so probably a good idea for any US player to withdraw everything they have on PS/tilt (when able to), correct?

Geeze YA THINK? Why keep money on a site you will never play on ever again.

04-21-2011 , 02:55 AM

#6512

Gambit90

enthusiast

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 73

hsdb says US players to definitely get their money back after a deal was reached with the doj.

04-21-2011 , 03:10 AM

#6513

Posiedon

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,473

Quote:

Originally Posted by n0nplussed

ty....so good news for stars accounts.

04-21-2011 , 03:43 AM

#6514

Pazzerifero

enthusiast

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by n0nplussed

I live in Canada and when this thing started, I tried to withdraw my money through instadebit. I was able to get to the confirmation screen and figured everything was fine so I didn't withdraw.

Now, when I click select for instadebit it says it is unavailable, I can't order anything from the full tilt store etc. I emailed Black Card and haven't received an answer.

I thought this wouldn't affect foreign players? Is anybody else who lives outside of the US able to withdraw your money?

I for one will not be using Full Tilt again after my money is out.

04-21-2011 , 03:59 AM

#6515

_Towelie_

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,771

Stars withdrawals for non-Americans are mostly fine, FTP withdrawals for non-Americans are mostly not fine. There's a known issue with FTP and instadebit. All you can do is wait, but I wouldn't be sweating if you'll get your money.

04-21-2011 , 07:40 AM

#6516

headupvn

stranger

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 9

i love star so much

04-21-2011 , 07:50 AM

#6517

ra]\\[dom

adept

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 923

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazzerifero

way to overreact, but why not try some other withdrawal option if you are in a hurry to get your money off the site? and yes non us people are withdrawing money from ftp

04-21-2011 , 07:55 AM

#6518

DunlopFuzzy

banned

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2,226

Quote:

Originally Posted by n0nplussed

You forgot that in the agreement that Stars and FTP have to report to the US government who cashes out and for how much.

04-21-2011 , 08:49 AM

#6519

bamyeah33

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 302

i posted this before the agreement was made..the sites will know how much u get etc...

04-21-2011 , 09:19 AM

#6520

Bozzytiger

banned

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 606

Anyone else think the years these owners may get if convicted to be unreasonably harsh?

You won't find many businesses with a reputation as good as Stars. It's like these sites got totally slowrolled

Stiff fines ok, but everyone facing pretty much life in prison + billions in fines?
Say what.

04-21-2011 , 09:46 AM

#6521

timchuk

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,523

Thanks for pointing this out. Does any one know why FTP is having problems with Instadebit? I see it has been removed from FTP but you can still use instadebit on stars.

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Towelie_

04-21-2011 , 10:10 AM

#6522

DunlopFuzzy

banned

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2,226

Any idea what the exchange rate will be on $T/tickets?

04-21-2011 , 10:26 AM

#6523

FDSaussure

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,242

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAKER19

I was under the impression one of the contentious issues was that the actual term used in the law was that you couldn't process money for "illegal online gambling" not "online gambling" and that the argument was that sites like FTP/Stars did not constitute "illegal online gambling" as they are fully licensed and legal in their respective areas.

04-21-2011 , 10:36 AM

#6524

SnotBoogy

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 7,694

Am I wrong to assume that the big picture of this is: US Govt was waiting to find a reason to stick it to offshore online poker so they could grab the market for US-based operators, eventually?

Last edited by SnotBoogy; 04-21-2011 at 10:43 AM.

04-21-2011 , 10:40 AM

#6525

FDSaussure

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,242

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnotBoogy

Am I wrong to assume that the big picture of this is: US Govt was waiting to find a reason to stick to offshore online poker so they could grab the market for US-based operators, eventually?

You're wrong because there is no "plan" and US "policy" on online poker/gambling at the moment is an incoherent mess with a bunch of different people all pushing different angles.

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