Hmm interesting thing I just noticed, unless I missed it, pokerstars is on the isle of man, but full tilt is not. Maybe this is why the sites are having different troubles?

Why dont we all put some money together and open up our own site we play on it righttt am i righttt

usually on ftp at this time there's usually over 100,000 players logged in.
there's currently only 59,000.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...akers-1020895/

Well then why not have some US companies start up some online poker sites so that the "expendable income" of the non-pro players stays in the US. You know - compete - capitalism - all that jazz.

the multiplier

lets call it fukthegovermentpoker.com =D

this might sound dumb, but i could see the shutdown as a catalyst for legalization

Can I be a site pro? I will be a billboard for you guys.

There is no doubt that Harrah's and the rest are jumping up and down with joy right now.

Am I the only one who had a bunch of real money in their account? I had 5 figures and that is all the money I had period.

It is a little tricky to prosecute people based upon it being illegal and legalize it at the same time.

Its possible, but the question is how long will we have to wait to get to play again.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...akers-1020895/

This as not allot of views. but def should be read....

You only have 2 people to thank for the situation you are in. That is YOURRRSELF and... Howard Lederer

Good luck sir, I hear homeless shelters are nice this time a year. LOL

FFS, what are you blaming Lederer for? Its not his fault you lost all your money online.

Wonder if there are any stats to show how much USA won or lost. And the rest of the countries.

Which country actually is losing the most of their currency to other countries?

Sweden? Russia?

How much did you lose, America?


I'd be willing to bet we have brung in more then we lost.

Im not for the US but i hope they do the same in your country so people can rip on you for no reason. I wonder where all this random hate is coming from, hate on the US ok... but the players who get screwed over? Why would you hate on them

Okay so to make a post that I actually did a little research on-

The isle of man is a gambling supervision commision that is a way for online gambling sites to store their players money and accounts.

The isle of man has a license with pokerstars, but not full tilt UB or AP (unless I missed it, but I looked over their list about 10 times).

This is a quote directly from their web page regarding players protection

"Funds Protected

On the Isle of Man we make sure that all licensee's have a system in place which fully protects all player funds. This means that any deposits or winnings you have with an island regulated gaming firm are secure and can be enforced by law. "

For you to look for yourself, here is the link to their site:

http://www.gov.im/gambling/licensees/

What to gather from this: It is very likely that users on pokerstars money is safe. I am as of right now unsure about the other sites.

So you are stupid Euro who dropped out of college? It's obvious because you can't even spell "college" correctly.

Stars has said that funds are safe. I am not sure why everyone has to bring this up every 5 minutes. In their release on the client, they explicitly say the funds are safe. I doubt they would've said that if any funds were in jeopardy.

You make wagers on a hunch? PM me if so? Seems like a lot of missing information to be making that assumption.

Well, I'm not sure that's how it happened because the prohibition is from FT and PS. They have chosen to not allow US players to play (at least to the extent to which US players could obtain access).

It is my understanding that the gaming servers are not in the US. Therefore, the seizure of the urls was irrelevant to playablility.

I'm definately not an expert on internet matters but it appears to me there was/is some level of voluntariness to the US player blocking. I'd be interested in hearing from someone who understands the technical process better.

Still going as of about 30 mins ago when I left work - haven't turned it back on here at home yet. Jungleman was on earlier.

Noticed a US registered player at my table earlier so i asked him how he pulled it off and he said he hasnt logged out in over 30 hours so he is still able to play. Thought it was pretty funny. I wonder if you never logged out would this still work?

I didnt lose all my money online. This other guy did. Lederer isnt to blame, I just personally do not like him. He just always had that pompous douchey attitude in all his interviews and tv cash games, so I am happy he is getting in trouble.