yep, don't doubt that at all. I definitely don't think that list shows anything devastating obviously, it was just interesting as you don't see loads of new accounts in one thread very often, it's really rare in fact. And the fact that the vast majority of them just came and went, and most had very much the same kind of message, was weird.

Btw, if anybody's got some time spare, and they haven't already, I'd strongly suggest reading the Gary Neville prop bet thread. In fact it should be mandatory reading for everyone imo, truly epic thread:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...ing-mh-736624/

The parallels are huge, not in terms of the substance so much - although there is some of that as well - as the patterns of communication from all sides once questions were raised. Don't just skip to the cliffs, ready through it from start to finish to see how everything unfolds and how the accused react. It's textbook dodginess, aversion and damage control.

Has anyone put up money that Jose is not who he claims to be?

Yeah I'm not a hater but it is kinda ridic that Jose hasn't answered some of the simpler questions yet. I'm guessing that people told him 'NVG is full of haters and ******s, don't worry about it', which is true, but NVG as a collective also has the power to tarnish someone's reputation if they all believe he is a cheater.

Whatever though, if he's for real I hope he keeps crushing like he has and if he's a fake/cheater I hope NVG detectives bust him. Seems pretty unlikely though since not many with the sick detective skills are going to wade through this entire thread since it's such a cluster****. Perhaps a new one should be started?!

This thread is golden.

Gonna hold that thought untill tomorow.

wtf is going on here, what a mess

The more I think about it the more i think those chat logs definitely seem more like the musings of a rainman. 225 combos, glamorous merchandise, fabulous and exciting bonus prizes, 71%, all in ship it wheeeeeeeeeeeel of fortune!

Junglemandan on QuadJacks tonight

Dan “jungleman12” Cates will be on QuadJacks Poker Radio tonight at 730pm PST/10:30pm EST

Quadjacks Facbebook link w questions to ask Jman-
http://www.facebook.com/#!/quadjacks

Galfond is Jman, jungleman12 is Jungle.

It's Daneil Cates tonight

Jungleman just on quadJacks, not sure there going to put that clip up via Justin.tv but something I thought was interesting he said, was that after Vegas, he was possibly thinking of moving somewhere to play online again like "Portugal" very surprised to hear that.

So he can Ghost in person..

https://www.expertinsight.com/jose-maria-macedo imo

This is pretty clear-cut. I write a half dozen sentences and you pick and choose to reply to the introductory and closing parts of my post, instead of the actual meat of it, which contained legit bare-bones questions about your theory and not your username. Thank you for refusing to address the real content of my post. You'll take a large amount of time and paragraphs to talk about nearly anything and everything, but won't address my legit, reasonable, and concisely worded fair questions that directly challenge your viewpoint.

Dwell all you want on my simple observation that your very username screams "troll". It's your behavior and writing that confirms what you are more than any ill-chosen username could. I gave you a challenge and you have intentionally ignored it. Yawn.

its simple game theory.

IF you are such an attention whore seeking like girah making this OP etc etc etc. If you are accused of cheating over and over again, what do you do

Do you make 2/3 vague posts that are supposed to clear your name but essentially arent saying much and then proceed and saying ill bet u any amount i tell the truth

or do you make normal posts, saying who your backer was, let your backer comment here, etc etc and behave like an innocent person...

case closed, I dont care if you are some gimmick for euro sites or whatever rumours, what I do know sir is that you are a fraud.

Cheater.

What chat logs?

Link?

Chat logs from skype. Is in the thread

I was referring to the ones in this thread:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...e-now-1042491/

This whole deal is just so pathetic, and I hope people realize at the end of the day some of "the best" online players pre-black friday, who people largely idolized, werent always a noble as one thoght.

The simple reason they went hush on this page including Girah is for 2 reasons.

1. They truely are hoping this annoying thread fades to page 90 on the NVG list.

2. Girah, obviously being a real kid, and with some potential needs a crash course, so after abotu a year, year and a half I fully expect them to come out with him, and ready to answer all the questions. Given a crash course would take this long for Girah to sell all their bull****.

All this just re-itterates why legislation is neccesary in the U.S, this is why the status-quo, of what was, HAD to change, and in some ways moving forward Black Friday is a GOOD thing!!!!!!!!!

great idea.

Go get coached by SCUM.

while your at it maybe hell teach you how to be profitable using 3rd party software, and Teamveiwer.

Dont waste a penny on this kid. Theres much better options out there.

first video series will be "how to cheat at promos"

Before you hire this guy, read this thread.

He has never answered any of the damning allegations, some from his OWN sponor in this thread.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...5/index97.html

What so, are people saying that this kid is just a front for when jungleman plays on that account???