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07-10-2023 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Defarse
"At an adjacent table, the action folded to David Eldridge in the small blind who shoved all in as the bigger stack. Christopher Usude was in the big blind with a stack of 86,000 and went into the tank. The clock was called and as the time was counted down, Usude folded his QQ face up."
This fold seems almost trivially correct in this context.

Folding AA to a single raise is a completely different story.
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07-10-2023 , 05:06 PM
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And I forgot Boston Rob.
there's a reason you forgot Boston Rob
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07-10-2023 , 05:33 PM
Twitch streamer/chess player Alex Botez still in. How big is a Botez deep run for the poker world? As huge as I think it is? We're not there yet; I'm talking if she makes Day 6-7 or beyond.
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07-10-2023 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist

Masato "World Wide" Yokosawa 779K
Daniel Negreanu 759K
Brad Owen 680K
Wolfgang Poker 415K
Doug Polk Poker 394K
Rampage 250K
Andrew Neeme 188K
しゅんぽーかー (Shunpoker) 178K
YoH ViraL Poker 167K
이문주 (Moonjoo Lee) 162K
Joeingram1 154K
임요환 (Lim Yo Hwan) 154K
Lex Veldhuis 129K (but more than twice that on Twitch)
小六 SixPoker 117K
Ryan Depaulo 108K
Oh duh... honorable mention: BotezLive, 1.35 million subs. They almost never post about poker, so it doesn't really count, but she's in the mix in this year's Main.
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07-10-2023 , 06:15 PM
I saw a Tweet from Eli Elezra and Boston Rob that they made day 3. BR said he made it to the money.

Bageled
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07-10-2023 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
Oh duh... honorable mention: BotezLive, 1.35 million subs. They almost never post about poker, so it doesn't really count, but she's in the mix in this year's Main.
She started a new @BotezPoker channel specifically for poker content recently.
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07-10-2023 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilfram
Twitch streamer/chess player Alex Botez still in. How big is a Botez deep run for the poker world?\
Pretty damn big. And chess/poker have a natural overlap, so it's even better than if she happened to be an equally popular influencer in some other sphere.
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07-10-2023 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilfram
Twitch streamer/chess player Alex Botez still in. How big is a Botez deep run for the poker world? As huge as I think it is? We're not there yet; I'm talking if she makes Day 6-7 or beyond.
We don't really want thinking players coming in though, do we?
I don't think she matters much, 1.3M followers isn't that big.

We want the MrBeast casuals and the likes of.
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07-10-2023 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
We don't really want thinking players coming in though, do we?
I don't think she matters much, 1.3M followers isn't that big.

We want the MrBeast casuals and the likes of.
I guess I imagine her audience to be comprised of some very strong chess players but also just the general population that finds her entertaining enough to follow online. In any case, she hit the rail about 15 minutes ago. GG
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07-10-2023 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
We don't really want thinking players coming in though, do we?
I don't think she matters much, 1.3M followers isn't that big.

We want the MrBeast casuals and the likes of.
I cannot comprehend this logic in anyway
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07-10-2023 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
This fold seems almost trivially correct in this context.

Folding AA to a single raise is a completely different story.
Folding qq faceup < folding qq < calling
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07-10-2023 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
We don't really want thinking players coming in though, do we?
I don't think she matters much, 1.3M followers isn't that big.

We want the MrBeast casuals and the likes of.
People who watch Mr. Beast are 12 years old. They're not gonna do much for poker.

1.3M followers is way more than any poker player heh. But whatever, she's out, was a good run. I get the feeling she was intent on folding her way to the money, busted soon after.
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07-10-2023 , 10:24 PM
8 players in the GPI tournament players’ ranking Top 20 are still left in the Main Event:

#02 Chance Kornuth
#03 Jesse Lonis
#09 Alex Foxen
#12 Stephen Chidwick
#13 Chris Brewer
#15 Justin Saliba
#17 Punat Punsri
#18 Jason Koon

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07-10-2023 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RosaParks1
Folding qq faceup < folding qq < calling
Well yeah he certainly shouldn’t fold face-up. But with that stack size (basically the starting stack) I imagine you’re better off folding into the money than taking ~70% equity to double up,
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07-11-2023 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
Well yeah he certainly shouldn’t fold face-up. But with that stack size (basically the starting stack) I imagine you’re better off folding into the money than taking ~70% equity to double up,
Just to expand on this, my back of the envelope math suggests that the post-bubble equity of a starting stack is around $7k (on top of the $16k bubble pay-out). So a starting stack’s equity on the bubble is about $23k, while a 2x stack is worth about $30k. And you’d rather have $23k guaranteed than a 70% shot at $30k (and 30% shot of $0).
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07-11-2023 , 01:53 AM
If Chidwick or Koon wins the Main Event, they will be in 2nd place on the All-Time Money List.

They will also be rich.
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07-11-2023 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
Just to expand on this, my back of the envelope math suggests that the post-bubble equity of a starting stack is around $7k (on top of the $16k bubble pay-out). So a starting stack’s equity on the bubble is about $23k, while a 2x stack is worth about $30k. And you’d rather have $23k guaranteed than a 70% shot at $30k (and 30% shot of $0).
Yes. It's a funny spot because we all understand the decision and it's merit, but you are really confining the solution set of outcomes by folding there. How many BBs was their stack at the time?
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07-11-2023 , 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerEthics
My economics professor once said that the parking problem in New York and Boston and other cities was because cars are too cheap to own….
Surely he meant that cities should charge more to drive cars in the city, not that cars were underpriced nationally?
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07-11-2023 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
We don't really want thinking players coming in though, do we?
I don't think she matters much, 1.3M followers isn't that big.

We want the MrBeast casuals and the likes of.
I think you severely overestimate the skill level of her followers. She is a pretty girl making fun chess content, her target audience isn't exactly masters. The average online chess player is sub 1000 ELO I think, which is a complete fish in poker terms. Imo the issue with transitioning to poker is that there's a fine margin between playing bad for fun and playing bad for money. Anyway 1.3M is quite a lot, so her playing poker is definitely good.
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07-11-2023 , 06:50 AM
rip the list of notables
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07-11-2023 , 09:30 AM
Notables to day 5:

John Racener
Nicholas Rigby
Chance Kornuth
Nate Silver
Nick Marchington
Roman Hrabec
Maurice Hawkins
Alec Torelli
Tony Dunst
Joe Hachem
Kyna England
Dario Sammartino
Jeremy Becker
Bill Klein
Faraz Jaka
James Obst
Andrew Neeme
Jason Somerville
Jeff Gross
Richard Seymour
Jesse Lonis
Jason Koon
Chris Brewer
Chris Moneymaker
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07-11-2023 , 09:52 AM
Rooting hard for Nate Silver!

It would be awesome to see him make a really deep run just weeks after getting screwed over by Disney.

I imagine he’s actually much more famous than any professional poker player (e.g. he has >3 million Twitter followers, compared to 500k for Daniel Negreanu).

(I wonder if he’s the most famous former professional poker player; I’m not sure who else would be in contention for that.)
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07-11-2023 , 09:54 AM
I'm literally fast forwarding through anything that doesn't involve Rigby. I don't see how everyone isn't rooting for a deep run from him.

Also, any notable females left?

Is Richard seymour the last celebrity standing?
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07-11-2023 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by LimpDitka
Also, any notable females left?
Kyna England
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07-11-2023 , 09:59 AM
FT with Torelli and the guy he angled would be awesome
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