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06-07-2023 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh
I mean, maybe that’s the price you pay if you’re looking for the slight +ev edge of max late reg. Don’t like it, don’t late reg. Better yet, maybe the WSOP should stop allowing late reg.
Exactly. Players should be punished for angling late regs. Or just not be a twat over 1.5bb
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06-08-2023 , 02:23 AM
If he doesn’t like the procedure I don’t mind him asking for a refund pre-draw. Absolute lunacy to let him draw and then get refund when he pulls a BB since he obv doesn’t refund if he doesn’t draw BB so he is just freerolling the draw.
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06-08-2023 , 04:48 AM
I just made my first Day 3 in the $1500 O8!
My name is Nick Goedert and I have about half the average with 33 players left.
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06-08-2023 , 09:30 AM
Take it down
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06-08-2023 , 10:29 AM
Go Nick go, congratulations!
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06-08-2023 , 01:25 PM
Seems like a somewhat loose all-in call w AQs and a top 20 ish stack at the time, but I guess w 30 bigs in a $300 buyin, 20k entrants event you’re going to need to get lucky more than once to go deep…
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06-08-2023 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
I just made my first Day 3 in the $1500 O8!
My name is Nick Goedert and I have about half the average with 33 players left.
Go get 'em, Nick! Good luck today.
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06-08-2023 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
I just made my first Day 3 in the $1500 O8!
My name is Nick Goedert and I have about half the average with 33 players left.
I always knew 08 was your game you frequently played out there. good luck we all rooting for you!!!
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06-08-2023 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
I just made my first Day 3 in the $1500 O8!
My name is Nick Goedert and I have about half the average with 33 players left.
29th for $7,600, nice score!
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06-09-2023 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by brianr
Seems like a somewhat loose all-in call w AQs and a top 20 ish stack at the time, but I guess w 30 bigs in a $300 buyin, 20k entrants event you’re going to need to get lucky more than once to go deep…
Positions aren't given, which definitely could impact it some. Also, it's not impossible that the reporting is mistaken and the AQs jammed and the KK overcalled. But would agree in general, calling off 30 bigs there with zero fold equity and not that much overlay doesn't seem great.
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06-09-2023 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by brianr
Seems like a somewhat loose all-in call w AQs and a top 20 ish stack at the time, but I guess w 30 bigs in a $300 buyin, 20k entrants event you’re going to need to get lucky more than once to go deep…
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Originally Posted by BringBackMo
Go get 'em, Nick! Good luck today.
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
Positions aren't given, which definitely could impact it some. Also, it's not impossible that the reporting is mistaken and the AQs jammed and the KK overcalled. But would agree in general, calling off 30 bigs there with zero fold equity and not that much overlay doesn't seem great.
In what I think was my first-ever live tourney cash way back when, I had a very similar situation. I'm waiting in the BB with KK and about 30 bigs, give or take. We're probably five away from the money in a field of 100 or so. Shorty shoved for around 6x, then player directly behind him reshoved for something like 40x. It folded to me, and I made a trivial call. Shorty had A9, other guy had AQ, and my kings held up for more than a double up. Sweet.

But here's the funny part...

The AQ guy started in on me, telling me that I'm supposed to fold there. At first, I just laughed and said something like "that's funny, good one" because I genuinely thought he was just kidding around. Oh no, no, no, no, no. Clownshoes went on and on about how I'm supposed to fold my entire range due to the impending money bubble. Some of his buddies at the table started chiding him, which got him to further dig in and defend his stance. He said he shoved to isolate the short stack and chase out the rest of the field (I recall a phrase along the lines of "don't want others intruding on my equity"). Their discussion lasted for at least a few hands, with the AQ player remaining convinced that I was supposed to fold.

Anyway, I agree that the seat order being reversed makes more sense, which in turn suggests White was thinking similarly to the AQ guy in my hand. He just happened to run into a bigger hand, then got lucky. Reading the other updates, it sounds like there was a lot of AIPF action at that point, so AQ might look bigger to Patrick White in that situation than it does to us.

And if the reporting WAS correct, well... some of the play in the Gladiator must have been pretty goofy in general. There is another hand report in which a player with 7x limps in the cutoff. The button raised to 3.5x. The BB called, and CO calls. Flop came AAK. BB checks, CO ships, button calls, BB calls. No further action to the river.

The hands were:
CO: K9
BTN: QT
BB: JJ

...and CO triples up.

It's also worth noting that the money bubble had just burst.
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06-09-2023 , 04:33 PM
Almost makes me want to start tourneys just to play them like cash and make other players mad near the bubble.
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06-09-2023 , 05:03 PM
Anyone know of any other events Ivey has played this year?

So far I’ve noticed him bust in these 3:

$25k NL Heads Up Championship
$25k NL 8-Handed High Roller
$10k Limit Hold Em Championship
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06-09-2023 , 05:18 PM
seems same as last year and last few years he just will play in any high buy in event that he wans to

surprised he played in the limit one
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06-09-2023 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by the pleasure
seems same as last year and last few years he just will play in any high buy in event that he wans to

surprised he played in the limit one
He played a pretty full schedule last year but not balls to the wall.

He played almost every $10k+ and a handful of lower buy ins.

This year he told Negreanu not to count on him for the WSOP Fantasy Draft, so it’s safe to assume he intends to play fewer.
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06-10-2023 , 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by chzbrglr
He played a pretty full schedule last year but not balls to the wall.

He played almost every $10k+ and a handful of lower buy ins.

This year he told Negreanu not to count on him for the WSOP Fantasy Draft, so it’s safe to assume he intends to play fewer.
did not know he went hard last year
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06-10-2023 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
Positions aren't given, which definitely could impact it some. Also, it's not impossible that the reporting is mistaken and the AQs jammed and the KK overcalled. But would agree in general, calling off 30 bigs there with zero fold equity and not that much overlay doesn't seem great.
Who cares in just glad KK lost and pounded the table.
70/30 losses are unbelievable. Nice life.
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06-10-2023 , 08:15 AM
Is it just me or does anyone else think That it was very unethical to pull a MILLION DOLLARS out of the prize pool on day 2 of the mystery millions, to award the second mystery bounty? 1000 players out lasted 17000 poker players to make it to day 2 I am sure they all were dreaming of big payouts. all just to have a cool 1 million snatched from the pool ,to be tucked away in a trunk for a sole mystery prize. Seems to me some of that should have went to the winner of the event as well as the other remaining grinders. PLEASE can some others give me their thoughts
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06-10-2023 , 08:17 AM
Is it just me or does anyone else think That it was very unethical to pull a MILLION DOLLARS out of the prize pool on day 2 of the mystery millions, to award the second mystery bounty? 1000 players out lasted 17000 poker players to make it to day 2 I am sure they all were dreaming of big payouts. all just to have a cool 1 million snatched from the pool ,to be tucked away in a trunk for a sole mystery prize. Seems to me some of that should have went to the winner of the event as well as the other remaining grinders. PLEASE can some others give me their thoughts
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06-10-2023 , 08:34 AM
was it announced before the tournament?
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06-10-2023 , 09:01 AM
they just gonna tee up the joke for us like that?
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06-10-2023 , 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by the pleasure
did not know he went hard last year
Here is what Ivey played last year (approx numbers)

SPENT $878,800
CASHED +$2,082,592

29 Live WSOP Tournaments
31 Live WSOP Buy Ins
9 Live WSOP Cashes
5 Online WSOP
1 Online WSOP Cashes
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06-10-2023 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Icare
Is it just me or does anyone else think That it was very unethical to pull a MILLION DOLLARS out of the prize pool on day 2 of the mystery millions, to award the second mystery bounty? 1000 players out lasted 17000 poker players to make it to day 2 I am sure they all were dreaming of big payouts. all just to have a cool 1 million snatched from the pool ,to be tucked away in a trunk for a sole mystery prize. Seems to me some of that should have went to the winner of the event as well as the other remaining grinders. PLEASE can some others give me their thoughts
They announced exactly how the buy in would be divided into the bounty pool vs the prize pool before the tournament.
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06-10-2023 , 11:37 PM
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06-11-2023 , 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Who cares in just glad KK lost and pounded the table.
70/30 losses are unbelievable. Nice life.
they arent unbelievable but if you are a decently skilled rec who plays some big tourneys here and there for fun it sure can be annoying when you are always on the wrong side of variance in spots like this. Especially when the other player plays objectively terrible like calling off 30bb w AQ there.

If you dont play the volume of a professional player the variance, while not literally "unbelievable" can definitely warrant an outburst when you lose against some donk who calls off 30bb with AQ in a spot like that.
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