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*** Durrrr Challenge: Stage II; Daniel "Jungleman12" Cates - IN RUNNING THREAD ***

View Poll Results: Who will win the Durrrr Challenge II?

Tom "Durrrr" Dwan

1,577 41.89%

Daniel "Jungleman12" Cates

2,188 58.11%

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08-31-2010 , 07:36 PM

#2251

maximose

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A thing people are failing to mention is an aspect to this challenge that Tom thought would give him an edge but isn't working thus far. Tom obviously made it run it twice every all in because he likes to bluff shove and go all in on draws or semi bluffs. The run it twice feature gives him more times to catch up and chop if he gets called by a better hand. I think eventually this will make a difference in the match. People fail to understand variance though and think Tom is already done. I remembered when people said the same thing during the P.A. match.

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08-31-2010 , 07:41 PM

#2252

Rob1543

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doesn't 30% equity = 30% equity, no matter how many times you run it?

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08-31-2010 , 07:45 PM

#2253

Icarus911

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I wouldnt take anything maximose says too seriously matt.

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08-31-2010 , 07:45 PM

#2254

maximose

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Yah but he has 2 times to catch a drawing hand now. So he can chop or scoop. Sometimes he may draw blank twice but the flush is gonna get there a lot more.

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08-31-2010 , 07:45 PM

#2255

where da ho go

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Originally Posted by Matt Probability

doesn't 30% equity = 30% equity, no matter how many times you run it?

*2 for 60% equity ldo.

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08-31-2010 , 07:45 PM

#2256

wiper

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depends on your location, location.

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08-31-2010 , 07:46 PM

#2257

jungleboy

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Originally Posted by Matt Probability

doesn't 30% equity = 30% equity, no matter how many times you run it?

running it twice (or more) has no effect on your equity what so ever

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08-31-2010 , 07:48 PM

#2258

maximose

adept

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Originally Posted by Icarus911

I wouldnt take anything maximose says too seriously matt.

ummm I dont think I've ever seen or talked to you

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08-31-2010 , 07:48 PM

#2259

DevinLake

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Originally Posted by maximose

Yah but he has 2 times to catch a drawing hand now. So he can chop or scoop. Sometimes he may draw blank twice but the flush is gonna get there a lot more.

so are you saying he'll win more $ with flush draws because of running it twice?

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08-31-2010 , 07:49 PM

#2260

BlitzPlayer

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so no action for 3 weeks???

thats ******ed

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08-31-2010 , 07:50 PM

#2261

2eazy

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Originally Posted by maximose

WTFFF LOL

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08-31-2010 , 07:50 PM

#2262

maximose

adept

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Originally Posted by DevinLake

so are you saying he'll win more $ with flush draws because of running it twice?

In the long run yes. From what you've seen now I can understand why you doubt that but its a small sample size. lol there is such thing as variance

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08-31-2010 , 07:51 PM

#2263

MexiKen

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Originally Posted by maximose

In the long run yes. From what you've seen now I can understand why you doubt that but its a small sample size. lol there is such thing as variance

http://www.cardplayer.com/cardplayer...run-them-twice

Cliffs: "It makes no difference mathematically whether you run a hand once or twice."

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08-31-2010 , 07:53 PM

#2264

CliffLee

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Originally Posted by maximose

In the long run yes. From what you've seen now I can understand why you doubt that but its a small sample size. lol there is such thing as variance

Ok, stop the level.

No one could possibly believe you will win more with a FD because of running it twice.

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08-31-2010 , 07:53 PM

#2265

DevinLake

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Originally Posted by maximose

In the long run yes. From what you've seen now I can understand why you doubt that but its a small sample size. lol there is such thing as variance

does this apply to jungleman's flush draws as well?

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08-31-2010 , 07:54 PM

#2266

inkognegro

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Running it twice makes it a bore. "Thats not poker"

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08-31-2010 , 07:56 PM

#2267

maximose

adept

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Originally Posted by DevinLake

does this apply to jungleman's flush draws as well?

If he was playing the same style that Durrrr implements most of the time than yes. Durrrr obviously put this in based on his playing style.

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08-31-2010 , 07:56 PM

#2268

Icarus911

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Have people not seenthis guys post about phil gordon? He's a wum, a very very very good one at that, but a wum nonetheless

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08-31-2010 , 07:57 PM

#2269

uistbhoy

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RIT reduces variance and gives us a better idea of who's the better player

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08-31-2010 , 07:57 PM

#2270

maximose

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Are they really not gonna play for three weeks?

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08-31-2010 , 07:58 PM

#2271

maximose

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Originally Posted by Icarus911

Have people not seenthis guys post about phil gordon? He's a wum, a very very very good one at that, but a wum nonetheless

wtf is a wum?

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08-31-2010 , 07:59 PM

#2272

DevinLake

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Originally Posted by Icarus911

Have people not seenthis guys post about phil gordon? He's a wum, a very very very good one at that, but a wum nonetheless

Yea, I was just trying to see if I could get him to keep positing increasingly stupid statements.

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08-31-2010 , 08:01 PM

#2273

DevinLake

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Originally Posted by maximose

wtf is a wum?

from my google search, I figured the most relevant definition for wum was wind up merchant. It's irish i think.

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08-31-2010 , 08:02 PM

#2274

MrPowell222

adept

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Originally Posted by maximose

wtf is a wum?

Wind Up Merchant, like a troll.

When running it twice, do the cards that get drawn out the first time get put back in the deck when running it the second time.

If not, does that not have some effect on equity? Or none whatsoever?

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08-31-2010 , 08:07 PM

#2275

maximose

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Originally Posted by MrPowell222

They DO NOT get put back in. if they were put back in it would be a different story. P.S. how the **** is an abbreviation for "wind up merchant" socially recognizable on 2p2? also I actually still dont know what Ido and DUCY are lol. Im guessing DUCY is do you see. I swear on my life I dont know what Ido is tho.

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