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View Poll Results: Who will win the Durrrr Challenge II?

Tom "Durrrr" Dwan

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08-31-2010 , 01:04 PM

#2176

rudlisi1

stranger

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 9

Its comical that people are basically saying that this match is over and that dur is no good anymore... He is one of the best players ever and continually shows that he is, yes he is currently losing over 7K hands to another top notch player, the margin of skill between dur and jungleman is quite close and jungleman is obviously both running and playing well... This match is still far from over though, dur hasn't been playing at the highest level and beating anyone he faces for years because he is a loser, he will find a way to make a comeback and I hope win.

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08-31-2010 , 01:11 PM

#2177

gaurangpatel

journeyman

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 237

i just freaking wish they would play, what the hell is durrrr waiting for

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08-31-2010 , 01:11 PM

#2178

AMassiveFish

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 127

How much is Durrrr down, just read last couple of pages and i'm getting that he is? Been at a music festival all weekend so i was surprised to see it started already.

Also isn't Durrrr a big loser to Jungleman12?

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08-31-2010 , 01:16 PM

#2179

n0nplussed

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,488

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Originally Posted by DoctorFarha

http://www.pokerstatic.com/static-tv...-phil-galfond/

OMGclay goes over a few hands

I love how HSNL matches like Durrrr v. Isildur / Durrrr v. Jungleman get everyone excited, from casual fans to top-level MTT and cash game players. Good commentary too by Jman.

That said, I truly hope Durrrr isn't broke by the end of this thing. At this rate, he stands to lose $5M+.

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08-31-2010 , 01:18 PM

#2180

ArcadianSky

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,386

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Originally Posted by SmokeyJ

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised but it's really ****ing lame that this has turned into NVG talking about how good nosebleed players may/may not be

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Originally Posted by SmokeyJ

Well obviously because he's been regarded as the sickest player for a very long time, and people will have faith that he can just crush anyone over the long run. Comments like Galfond saying he didn't ever think he'd ever see a player who would have an edge over durrrr in hunl help.

I mean he's been at the highest limits playable for basically as long as they've been around and he's stayed at the top the whole time. There's not much more of a testament to someone's game than crushing since basically the beginning of online poker. It's not that ridiculous that people will just automatically assume he's a favourite over anyone, especially if they don't have experience playing both him and jungle.

I'm not really saying my opinion on whose better though, I just think that's why some people would bet on durrrr.

hypocrisy much?

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08-31-2010 , 01:21 PM

#2181

saeco

adept

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,026

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Originally Posted by aTTa

J2o was not a misclick, unless you can mislick IRL... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxQJfMcI3MQ

-3:05 thru 4:05

that's against phil laak

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08-31-2010 , 01:36 PM

#2182

cocktails

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,599

I want to comeback on my last post in this topic, durrrrs HUNL results arent that bad like i stated(i was on my phone and it i tought it was that bad, i guess the 1st time i saw it i was the opposite of impressed). i wish gl to both anyway, got money on jungle but still, <3 durrr

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08-31-2010 , 01:58 PM

#2183

sjp507

banned

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,391

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Originally Posted by DevinLake

most HSNL people were betting with HSNL people. So, it's pretty equal the guys that were taking Jungleman or Durrrr.

no logic in NVG plz

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08-31-2010 , 02:09 PM

#2184

J_V

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 4,875

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Originally Posted by uistbhoy

J2o can make trip twos, and no one's gonna put you on that

And if they do, they'll probably underestimate your kicker.

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08-31-2010 , 02:42 PM

#2185

aesthetics

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 5,514

i dont understand, if the durrr challenge is for anyone why doesnt the best no limit hold em poker player in the world phil helmuth just step in and kick his ass

doesnt make sense to me

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08-31-2010 , 02:49 PM

#2186

Ace0fSpades

adept

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 779

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Originally Posted by Masq

There's no hate. You wrote "I can only hope this is a level" in response to one of my posts yet have failed to back it up. It's just that type of posting which pisses me off when it's just cool to bash people and show no logic or reasoning behind it.

In a ring NLH game Durrr is a great player. As a HU NLH player against regular winning HU NLH players he's sub-par. Jungleman is one exhibit, Isildur1 another example and urnotindanger2 would also be another that go under the HU NLH winning players. These are players durrr has recently played and not had great results against. At least not good enough to qualify him as being the top HU NLH players or even top 3. This was my point and it still stands /

I would rethink your stance on urnotindanger2, seeing as durrr took a bunch off him over a few sessions recently. Regardless, you listing two players that he has failed to beat in HUNL recently does not validate your point that he has never beat anyone in HUNL - in fact, you are really arrguing to the contrary because if he were such a huge loser at HUNL you would be able to ramble a significant list of names he has lost to.

I'm willing to admit he has lost an edge in HUNL compared to when he was an up and coming highstakes player moving through the ranks, but to say he has not beat anyone is absurd.

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08-31-2010 , 02:53 PM

#2187

Kurupt

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 34

Where was all this talk about how durrrr really isn't that good at HUNL BEFORE the challenge started?

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08-31-2010 , 02:55 PM

#2188

spino1i

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,713

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Originally Posted by Ace0fSpades

its not that he lost an edge. Im sure 2010 durrrr is at least as good at HUNL as 2007 durrrr.

Its that he didnt really improve at HUNL and others did.

I think whats really impressive here is how jungleman became basically the best HUNL player in the world in a span of just two years. And this is with much tougher 2010 games. I really have no idea how one does this, its taken me six years of studying NLH to get where I am and im still way behind jungleman.

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08-31-2010 , 02:58 PM

#2189

muttiah

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 25,151

how do you know he didn't improve. seems impossible to not improve when you're playing nosebleeds for the last 3+ years

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08-31-2010 , 03:02 PM

#2190

Masq

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 15,134

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Originally Posted by Kurupt

Where was all this talk about how durrrr really isn't that good at HUNL BEFORE the challenge started?

I can't speak for everyone, but i'll speak for myself. Posted on the 22nd, I think 5 days before a single hand was played.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=900
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=904

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08-31-2010 , 03:03 PM

#2191

Lars1

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,971

they have only played 7k hands so im not really sure how you guys can say that durrrr sucks at hunl now

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08-31-2010 , 03:09 PM

#2192

Adam87

adept

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,015

think there will defo be a long session either later tonight or tomorrow, durrrr said he wants to get at least 2 challenges done before WSOPE, he needs to get a move on...

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08-31-2010 , 03:09 PM

#2193

gaurangpatel

journeyman

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 237

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Originally Posted by spino1i

you remember brian townsend, where is he now and where is durrrr still?

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08-31-2010 , 03:11 PM

#2194

darksideofthewal

adept

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 858

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Originally Posted by Kurupt

Where was all this talk about how durrrr really isn't that good at HUNL BEFORE the challenge started?

Isildur

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08-31-2010 , 03:14 PM

#2195

Masq

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 15,134

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Originally Posted by Ace0fSpades

They played PLO in their session did they not?

Let's take a look at some of the top HU NLH players on full tilt....

Urindanger - friends, won't play
Trex313 - " "
Omgclayaiken - " "
Jungleman12 - we all know the results
Urnotindanger2 - he's up on durrr
Zeejustin - Only 14k hands, but he's up $374k.
Isaac Haxton - can't really see if one is up or down hugely to the other

So any other HU NLH players who have played him that i've not considered?

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08-31-2010 , 03:14 PM

#2196

gaurangpatel

journeyman

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 237

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Originally Posted by darksideofthewal

Isildur

idiot, so many nhle superstars have come and gone, only durrrr and jman seem to be the last ones left, krantz big downswing gone, whitelime same, sbrugby same thing, isildur samething(he is best though)

who is to say jungleman wont be in the same category

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08-31-2010 , 03:24 PM

#2197

Masq

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 15,134

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Originally Posted by gaurangpatel

who is to say jungleman wont be in the same category

He's not afraid to move down and play smaller stakes to rebuild. Unlike durrr who after losing those sums to isildur (yeah he didn't have 100% of his action) kept on playing the biggest games available which is inevitably not good BRM (but it's not a major concern now he's on team FTP.)

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08-31-2010 , 03:27 PM

#2198

chinz

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 9,061

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Originally Posted by Masq

HUnlike durrr who after losing those sums to isildur (yeah he didn't have 100% of his action) kept on playing the biggest games available which is inevitably not good BRM

How do you know it isn't good BRM? He could still have had 100 buy-ins (and ppl having %) after getting destroyed by isildur. It's pretty useless to make comments like this, because we simply can't know if he had $1M roll or $10M roll at the worst point of his downswing (and if he had % sold even after isildur-matches).