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Daniel Negreanu talking on QuadJacks about 2p2 ban. (and some complaining about mods) Daniel Negreanu talking on QuadJacks about 2p2 ban. (and some complaining about mods)

03-23-2012 , 01:43 PM
I hope daniel doesn't come back
03-23-2012 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Professionalpoker
You would think a person as smart as Daniel would then figure out that he shouldn't be making additional posts on this topic and especially post links to videos that start with 6 minutes of spam.
This is a commercial!, was my first impression while viewing Daniel Negreanu's "Weekly Rant Mar 21 Iseries, Scotty Nguyen, and more" YouTube video. Negreanu should have placed the one minute commercial in the middle of his 20 minute video to avoid spam allegations.
03-23-2012 , 01:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Johnson
Giving DN a one-day tempban is similar to Tiger Woods get a 2-stroke penalty for some minor incident or Michael Jordan getting called for charging.
Tiger Woods getting a 2-stroke penaty won't make him quit the PGA tour. His work/main activity is to play on that tour. But lets say he donates to local charities and, at a $5000 charity buffet, he isn't allowed in because he wears a "Nike" shirt, do you think that he will ever bother to contribute again?

I read 2p2 for the insight/knowledge of vet poker players and certainly consider DN's contribution as a +value. I highly doubt that he will ever post again. I know I wouldn't.

GG 2p2.

Edit: It is not the lenght/strenght of the penality that is important here; it's the lack of recognition/respect for what he brings at the table.

A PM trying to sort things out with him would certainly have been a better move.

Last edited by Polar Beard; 03-23-2012 at 01:59 PM.
03-23-2012 , 01:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SGT RJ
I'm pretty sure we all know that MJ would never get called for charging.
And Tiger Woods is perfect.
03-23-2012 , 01:56 PM
I haven't realy seen an answer, but how is what DN did different than what SrlySirius does?
03-23-2012 , 02:02 PM
Browser2920 hit the nail on the head. I will say that bashing mods for this when it was Mason's decision is a little off.

Also, Jordan called for charging? Was this in some alternate reality or something?
03-23-2012 , 02:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by A_Schupick
I haven't realy seen an answer, but how is what DN did different than what SrlySirius does?
srslysirius was never asked to facilitate funding from the works that he pimped and then ignore the request.

He should write a jingle about this issue, I bet it would be a hit. Maybe use "Somebody Banned Me" from the Killers "Somebody told me" GoGoGo.
03-23-2012 , 02:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Johnson
Giving DN a one-day tempban is similar to Tiger Woods get a 2-stroke penalty for some minor incident or Michael Jordan getting called for charging.
Not at all. The other analogy was much more accurate. Penalties in your sport for breaking very clear rules is not nearly as insulting as visiting a third party and being slapped on the wrist in a demeaning way (and regardless of how any individual feels about the seriousness of a 24 hour ban - there's overwhelming evidence that lots of people find it demeaning).

Anyway, as I understand the sequence of events I totally understand where DN is coming from. I think both sides are overreacting but I've definitely lost a lot of respect (not that I had a ton before, to be honest) for 2+2 management and their business sense.
03-23-2012 , 02:23 PM
PP says it was "just" a 1 day ban and he has no clue that that's the whole damn point.

Whoever is responsible for this: Have you ever heard of choosing your battles wisely? A 1 day ban only has negative ramifications for the forum when dealing with someone like DN. He isn't going to react by saying, "I learned my lesson, PLEASE let me post again!" A 1 day ban may teach us typical nvgtards a very small lesson but were you really big enough dolts to think it would make a positive difference with DN? 1 day is virtually meaningless except for pissing someone off royally.

Whoever is responsible: RIGHT MF'N NOW you better go find DN and begin kissing his vegetarian ***.
03-23-2012 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ihateannieduke
Whoever is responsible: RIGHT MF'N NOW you better go find DN and begin kissing his vegetarian ***.
Sorry brah, we didn't have the french revolution, the enlightenment, the american war of independance and WW2 so people could be kings.

Equality is something worth making a stand for. If Dan Neg isn't happy having the same treatment as any 2+2 user it is him with the problem.

2+2 is a place for the poker community to interact, not a stage for celebrities to touch the unwashed and then sell them something.

Welcome to the internet.
03-23-2012 , 02:32 PM
So they ban a poster that gets there site massive traffic over what they deem as spam.

Was this more of a flex your muscle mod thing or has he had multiple warnings?

From a business perspective I see this as a very poor decision from the mod. What if you drive away these pro's to other forums? Won't be good for business.
03-23-2012 , 02:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Disinterested
Sorry brah, we didn't have the french revolution, the enlightenment, the american war of independance and WW2 so people could be kings.

Equality is something worth making a stand for. If Dan Neg isn't happy having the same treatment as any 2+2 user it is him with the problem.

Welcome to the internet.
I think I'll go let my boss know that and make sure we share his huge office.

Your stance is that DN deserves precisely the same treatment from the mods as kjoff? I'm sorry, I just cannot agree with that.
03-23-2012 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by frozendonk
Browser2920 hit the nail on the head. I will say that bashing mods for this when it was Mason's decision is a little off.
Actually, it was Professionalpoker's decision to impose the ban. He then called Mason to see what he thought about it.
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Originally Posted by Professionalpoker
So at 2am I made the call to temp-ban the account and then sort it out. I figured this could cause a storm so I immediately called Mason, who already knew of the previous two threads and let him know what I did and why. He concurred with the action.

Last edited by Jigsaw; 03-23-2012 at 02:52 PM.
03-23-2012 , 02:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Disinterested
Sorry brah, we didn't have the french revolution, the enlightenment, the american war of independance and WW2 so people could be kings.

Equality is something worth making a stand for. If Dan Neg isn't happy having the same treatment as any 2+2 user it is him with the problem.

2+2 is a place for the poker community to interact, not a stage for celebrities to touch the unwashed and then sell them something.

Welcome to the internet.
Let's not forget that 2 of the 3 violations that he made (as I understand it) were posting his vlog link in a thread dedicated to his vlog and his vlog link in a thread dedicated to making photoshops of him (and a few of which were in his vlog).

You can pretend that he's any old person but he's not. Nor is this some big moral issue that's worth making a stand on.
03-23-2012 , 02:43 PM
Why is this such a big deal ? a 2+2 member broke a rule and got a temp ban. Happens every day.
03-23-2012 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 3betu
Why is this such a big deal ? a 2+2 member broke a rule and got a temp ban. Happens every day.


While I agree that it's silly to make a big deal out of this, your characterization of the event is ridiculous.

Why is the PGA such a big deal? People play golf all the time.
03-23-2012 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by useless
What if you drive away these pro's to other forums?
there is no other forum.
03-23-2012 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmelsau
there is no other forum.
True, but there are no guarantees that this will always be the case.

I think Pokerstars should start a forum.
03-23-2012 , 02:56 PM
I think it would be great if another big forum started up.

I think some of the mods here are terrible and overall its a very unfriendly forum in general. Would love to see a more laid back forum.
03-23-2012 , 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Johnson
Giving DN a one-day tempban is similar to Tiger Woods get a 2-stroke penalty for some minor incident or Michael Jordan getting called for charging.
Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan and ... DN?

No.
03-23-2012 , 03:20 PM
It's a pretty good podcast.
03-23-2012 , 03:23 PM
QJ never works for me...fml
03-23-2012 , 03:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjshabado


While I agree that it's silly to make a big deal out of this, your characterization of the event is ridiculous.

Why is the PGA such a big deal? People play golf all the time.
If Tiger Woods made took a mulligan in a PGA would they say hey thats ok your Tiger Woods do whatever you want.
03-23-2012 , 03:23 PM
While 2+2 is completely out of hand about Ban's/ closing threads etc. DN complaint is more about how can 2+2 temp ban a legend like himself and how can they not talk with him first before a low life mod simply temp bans him.
03-23-2012 , 03:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 3betu
If Tiger Woods made took a mulligan in a PGA would they say hey thats ok your Tiger Woods do whatever you want.
Yes, that's exactly what happened here.

      
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