Everyone knows Dan’s side of the story, he’s been telling that one for a decade.

It’s just that people don’t believe him. Why? Because it has been proven over and over again that he’s vastly over exaggerating half the time and flat out lying the other half. There’s a thread on 2+2 with over 4000 replies. You’re posting in it.

As I mentioned before, all my interactions with DB have been pleasant. You just should never take anything he says for face value.

I guess I'm late to the game. But when someone is DEMANDING that you check with secondary sources to prove them out. It kinda says a lot.

boy, was i wrong!

the reason quotes belongs at the top of a post is to help the people reading swiftly realize what post (and poster) is being responded to. it takes half a second to glance over it and remember the context, then skip to its response. nobody is rereading all quotes just because they're at the top. leaving the quotes at the bottom actually delays the reader getting to the point.

For decades, Sklansky has always preached that the ultimate key to profit maximization is table selection. Bilzerian, and also Robl, JRB, and Salomon, has taken this advice to a whole new level and have reaped the rewards which is MONEY.

The worst practitioners are the super high rollers GTO experts that bang on each other's heads for the least amount of EV imaginable. But why do they do this when they could be playing bums? The answer: Ego. They learn about and even teach about how to maximize EV betting round by betting round, yet they themselves are like dumb soldiers that find the thickest part of the fortress and attack that area for the sake of chivalry and false pride.

Bilzerian, Robl, JRB, Salomon, and a few others have achieved the highest ideal of poker (making more MONEY than anyone) because they have zero ego. This is a very important lesson. Lose your ego, be like Bilzerian.

Dude whatever. Just call me a rebel.

I wonder if doug was so adamant about not apologizing because that would be an admission of guilt for defamation or something like that. Maybe he does apologize later in the pod, I gave up on it after a while. Pretty infuriating watching him resort to middle school type arguments for hours, what a wasted opportunity. I think the irony of this interview is that doug's social issues are way more interesting than the question of Bilzerian's family money.

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You seem mad. My point was he brought him up so many times in unneeded spots. You've been wrong ever since your first point on the subject:

Doug was never dismissing it. He said he can't average that much every month and Dan said he was making $5.2m/year because of that one month. The fact that he kept saying "get my bodog records under blitz force" and "OMG $400K MONTH!!!" while not even being able to name a screenname on another site from 2005-2018 is just hilarious. That in itself paints him to be a liar.

edit: and just fwiw, I thought they both came off good and bad in some spots.

Interesting. He's definitely smarter than some people think.

Gonna watch the Polk one as well.

My takes:

I think dan is far sharper than most people give him credit for. He could use some polish in his speaking as he uses a lot of filler words in interviews however, but i mean a ton of people do this and shouldnt be a huge knock.

With regards to how he made his money?

my guess is he had some run good in poker then made a shitload of money with home/private games as running them, bringing players, or getting pieces of people. if connected to the right games im not sure people here realize how much money this could bring in. in addition to that if he played in games with massive whales its really not hard to fathom making hand over fist against some truly terrible players.

having personally sat at a table and watched someone run 3k into ~170k in under 12 hours at 5/5/10 PLO (2017 iirc at rivers casino in pittsburgh pa) his claims really arent outside the realm of possibility. they are definitely in the small top end of outcomes however.

i do find it amusing that people think dan hates women, the opposite is generally true for people in this situation. usually guys like this treat women well, but just want variety and not interested in commitments. i find that guys that truly hate women tend to be abusive in some capacity (see dave portnoy for example).

DuckSauce,
i'm not saying the opposite is true as i have no idea, but what proof do you have that he's not abusive towards women in some capacity?

Haha.

What an odd question to ask.

DP 2018: "I'm pissed that I can't get into soft private games where people make **** loads of money"
DP 2021: "I don't believe that people make **** loads of money in soft private games"

how so? the general consensus of people who follow dan's antics and online presence seem to be of the opinion that he's a misogynist. like i said i have no idea, as i don't follow him or anyone else. enlighten me!

Doug failed at having a trust fund to get into these games like DB and RS had…

And you fail to see that.

I mean in most cases you need to have a lot of money to make money.

Also it’s possible his dad gave him some sort of allowance or access to a joint checking account.

The most comical part was when DB was adamant that his dad worked on Wall Street but wasn’t paid in cash lmao.

Ok so they paid him via check which then put cash into his bank. Then dad could write a check hand it to him and cash was never needed.

Or

He could buy him cars and housing etc

…

Idk just seems kinda wrong to be a trustafarian and not give some credit to your parents.

Solomon was entertaining as hell on PAD
Very laggy
But played super fast funny probably even more interesting off camera didn't ***** when he lost etc
He def crushes the droolers he gets to play with

I'm not into social media at all but everything I understood about Blitz was he had an IG that 18 year olds would be envious of
Hearing this interview I'd have to agree with you
He's obviously a smart guy
Doesn't mean he's not a rich kid either
He was right when he called polk out on misrepresenting what he said

I also cracked up when he said it's like if someone gets slapped in the face and they fall down like some ****ing soccer player acting like they got assaulted

I remember playing him on Bodog
He would get wrecked in full tables but always had monster stacks heads up on 5/01 and 10/20 nl

There are players all around the world that get into super soft private games and they do so without trust funds. There are probably even some huge super soft private games in Austin but Doug Polk won't be playing in them because Doug Polk doesn't know what the **** he is doing.

If Andrew Robl of all people can get in these games and you can't, then you have some serious ****ing problems and it's not anyone else's fault. It's your own damn fault, Doug Polk.

i obviously do not have proof since i dont know the guy nor have i spoke with anyone hes been with, and i could be wrong here but, i would expect there to be no shortage of stories of such behavior if it were occurring from women he was with.

Polk has a big ego, good players with big egos wont get in good games. Robl for sure licked a$$ for a lonnng time and probably still does in order to get in these games

Can someone explain why it's so obvious that Dan got his money from his Dad?

He crushed on-line heads-up games for years.

Then he crushed soft, high-stakes live games for years.

Why is it difficult to believe that a winning on-line player could beat these soft live games? Especially since it sounds like most of his profit was dumped to him by three megawhales.

finally someone with definitive proof! care to share it with the public? asking for a friend.

It's obvious because it's the most likely scenario. By far.

Mega rich dad, mega rich son. Oh, I wonder where the son got that money from... I wonder... Must be a coincidence!

I didn't mean to make these as definite claims. They're just claims that seem quite likely to be true, because:

I've seen lots of people who were familiar with the games on Bodog say that he always seemed to do well in the high-stakes heads-up games. So, it's likely that Bilzerian was at least a competent on-line player. And various high-stakes live players have confirmed that Bilzerian is one of the biggest winners in those high-stales live games (e.g. Haralabos Voulgaris on joeingram1's podcast)