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Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread) Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)
View Poll Results: Will the Corona Virus will alter their plans to attend WSOP this Summer (if it's not canceled)
Never planned on attending.
177 32.48%
Definitely wont attend.
112 20.55%
Probably wont attend.
93 17.06%
Probably will attend.
71 13.03%
Definitely will attend.
92 16.88%

03-12-2020 , 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BluffNutts
The Colorado Poker Championship, scheduled to start tomorrow, was just cancelled. Bummer. Fascinating times. I understand this is a wicked and super contagious virus, but these things are only going to continue to develop... I'm not sure that quarantining everything is going to do any good. If at risk people want to self-quarantine that is understandable, but the forced quarantines and life disruptions seem draconian to me. What is the realistic mortality rate for this thing?
They canceled The Colorado Poker Championship but left poker room( regular cash games and tournaments) and casino opened - does not make sense?!
03-12-2020 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BluffNutts
The Colorado Poker Championship, scheduled to start tomorrow, was just cancelled. Bummer. Fascinating times. I understand this is a wicked and super contagious virus, but these things are only going to continue to develop... I'm not sure that quarantining everything is going to do any good.
You could not be more wrong. As threads pick up volume, some good posts get lost . This one below is the best info I have read about this topic and clearly explains among other things, why what you said is totally wrong


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Originally Posted by parisron

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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
Two exemptions: flights from the UK; and Americans will allowed with proper screenings. (But hard to say if that means flights will continue from any other countries for Americans.)

This is the first good news I have seen for the country. Our federal government is finally taking a serious step towards stopping the spread of CoVID-19. I actually think this makes it slightly more likely that the WSOP will not be postponed or cancelled, as it is now slightly more likely that we the virus will be eradicated in time. But only very slightly.
I hear you but imo just more bumbling and mis-direction from the Administration. The virus is HERE, in every state. While reducing movement from outside is good and certainly wont hurt, the focus should have been reducing movement within our borders.

As importantly he should have spoken about what the Fed Govt is doing to shore up the tsunami that his heading toward our Health Care system. This tsunami is not if but when. It will cripple us. Planning should start now, not later when ICUs and hospital floors are bursting at the seams and people who otherwise with proper care would live, are dying because hospitals cannot handle the wave.

Again referencing the report above that Galen tweeted


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Originally Posted by eobmtns
OMC here.

I came down with something on Mar. 7, could be flu, a cold, or COVID-19. No testing is readily available in my area. Here is how I think I was infected:
Really bring this things into perspective. hoping everything turns out OK
03-12-2020 , 05:46 AM
I would not be suprised if all events in the foreseeable future will be canceled.
Also curious how long the travel ban from Europe to the US will be maintained, I expect it will be longer then the 30 days its active for now.
03-12-2020 , 06:20 AM
WSOP is in the muck
03-12-2020 , 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BluffNutts
What is the realistic mortality rate for this thing?
Irrelevant.

The cancellation of events is primarily about trying to slow the spread to keep the medical system from being overwhelmed by all the cases coming in at one time.

Or about PR. Depends who you ask.
03-12-2020 , 06:45 AM
Fascinating and very long article, PT Lou, thank you for re posting. In also reading the NY Times article posted earlier there are clearly a lot of inconsistencies and bad info out there. Basically, I still don't think locking everything down is the answer. You said I "could not be more wrong". I guess we will see, because it is clear that in the United States today people are not going to be locked down like they might be in Taiwan. I guess our 4% are just doomed, and the rest of us will cough for awhile. Like my original post....bummer. Maybe I will see you at the WSOP next year?
03-12-2020 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BluffNutts
I guess our 4% are just doomed, and the rest of us will cough for awhile.
Dude, you're not getting the point. There is close to zero risk that any country will be decimated by this virus.

HOWEVER there is a gigantic risk that, if the spread is not contained, the number of cases that requires medical assistance will overwhelm the Health System of even the most developed country.

This means that, if you will need medical assistance for ANY reason, (not necessarily covid related! even if you just hit your head, have a stroke or whatever) you could not receive it simply because there is not enough space for you, there are no nurses or doctors available to cure you. In Italy is already happening.
03-12-2020 , 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by eobmtns
OMC here.

I came down with something on Mar. 7, could be flu, a cold, or COVID-19. No testing is readily available in my area. Here is how I think I was infected:

I'm over 60 and have other medical conditions (a "comorbid condition.") I've been wearing an N95 respirator in public since Feb. 15 (typical OMC behavior, right?) So I went to Winco Foods at 2 AM and I figured **** it, nobody at Winco that time of night is going to come within 10 feet of me. Mask stays in pocket.

Wouldn't you know it, there is an Asian woman in the meat department standing near me and coughing and sneezing like, well, a caricature of someone uncontrollably coughing and sneezing.

So 5 days later I can't move a muscle and have a fever. It's now 3 days after that and Tylenol has made the fever mostly go away. But if it is COVID-19, the odds are 1 in 6 that it will come roaring back in a few days, possibly sending me to the ICU (if there's any hospital capacity left). I'm updating my bucket list to see what I can get done within the possibly few days I might have left on this Earth.

GG, maybe.
Good luck sir, please keep us updated.
03-12-2020 , 07:20 AM
03-12-2020 , 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BluffNutts
I guess our 4% are just doomed, and the rest of us will cough for awhile.
It's a bit worse than that. It seems that 1 in 5 cases are severe enough to require hospitalization. Only 1 in 100 are hospitalized for the flu. This can be an economic disaster for many families. That's why places that have been proactive see a mortality rate under 1% and places that delayed acting can be in the 3-5% range. You get a crush of people going to the hospital so that they have to follow triage practices and let some sick people go untreated. If you live in the US, our health care system is designed so that ability to pay becomes a de facto priority in triage.
03-12-2020 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Ace-High

HOWEVER there is a gigantic risk that, if the spread is not contained, the number of cases that requires medical assistance will overwhelm the Health System of even the most developed country.
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This 100%.

The stat from that analysis that stuck was the part where they estimated impact of waiting just a day for govt to take action in early part of spread.

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In this theoretical model that resembles loosely Hubei, waiting one more day creates 40% more cases! So, maybe, if the Hubei authorities had declared the lockdown on 1/22 instead of 1/23, they might have reduced the number of cases by a staggering 20k.
Our horse is out of the barn here in the US. We are beyond containment (though those steps must still be take NOW) and will soon be dealing massive mitigation.

Unfortunately our fed govt was more focused on squelching panic, downplaying risk, not spooking financial markets, "keeping my numbers down", assigning blame, instead of taking quick and decisive action to flatten our infection curve.

Luckily some state and local governments did take some early action . More should step up right now . Social distancing, closings, cancellations, etc etc.

Early on non-existent test kits made it impossible for healthcare system to contain by tracing spread.
03-12-2020 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by fakekidpoker
In two weeks nobody will be talking about cornavirus anymore
Oh, how we all wish you'd been right when you said this 40 days ago.
03-12-2020 , 09:52 AM
51st WSOP = 2021.
03-12-2020 , 10:03 AM
With NBA/NCAA announcing their actions... and European Soccer stadiums pretty much empty.. and many health officials think Corona will be around for a few months + then I'm having doubts on WSOP, all things considered...

Be cool if they allowed WSOP to be played online some how but that'd be a headache for financial/gambling regulations.
03-12-2020 , 10:17 AM
reading news articles and other media from January/February about corona is so entertaining. i might be evil but it feels so good to see all of this going down when everyone was calling me crazy for panicking when Wuhan got shut down
03-12-2020 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by stumbras
They canceled The Colorado Poker Championship but left poker room( regular cash games and tournaments) and casino opened - does not make sense?!
A special event gathers people from a wider geographical area than your regular cash games, leading to much more effective spread of the disease. That's the key to these types of event being the first to be banned.

Here in Sweden a lot of people complain about it being absurd that you can't hold a trade show but still ride the bus to work and the same thing applies - the travel pattern is different.

It's just a math thing.
03-12-2020 , 10:56 AM
PokerShares WSOP ME not played as scheduled is now a huge favorite -303, was +400 a week or so ago.
03-12-2020 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Registered 2018
I am 100% in support of WSOP 2020 not getting cancelled. The primary objectives that should guide the organizers' actions should be:

Give the WSOP 2020 the prestige that it deserves.

Give as many players as possible the opportunities to achieve their gold bracelet and money payoff dreams.

Maximize health safety by KEEPING CROWDS SMALL.

The obvious actions:

1. Cancel all the small and medium buy-in live events that attract the biggest crowds.

2. Quadruple the number of online gold bracelet events to replace the above live events.

3. Keep the naturally small participation events, namely, the super high rollers ($25,000 buy-in or higher) in place.

Finally:

4. Hold two "Main Events":

- the online $10,000 Main Event

- the live $100,000 Main Event

That's right. TWO Main Events!!!

Withhold 10% of each of the above 2 events and use the money as the price pool to pay for the heads up match that the two Main Event "Champions" will play several months later that would determine the "Undisputed WSOP Main Event Champion of 2020".

All of my suggestions in this post should help ensure that WSOP 2020 would go on as scheduled; that the crowds would stay small; give the players many opportunities to win their dream gold bracelet; give the WSOP possibly big time main stream media exposure and possibly have it serve as a role model for how all big events can be run during a crisis that otherwise would have paralyzed many other big events.
The above post, made last February, is probably the dumbest post in this entire thread. LOL

Though not as bad as the ones about the ladders. ROLFMAO
03-12-2020 , 10:58 AM
03-12-2020 , 11:03 AM
03-12-2020 , 11:09 AM
03-12-2020 , 11:30 AM


"Two big voices are calling on the NCAA to stop March Madness 2020.

Charles Barkley and Jay Bilas both called on decision-makers to shut down or postpone the tournament Thursday morning as the spread of coronavirus hits the country.

“I’m going to say this, and I’m probably going to get in trouble, because I work for Turner and March Madness and CBS, I think Turner Sports and CBS gotta close down March Madness, man,” Barkley, a TNT analyst who is part of CBS’ coverage of the tournament, said on ESPN’s “Get Up.”

“You can’t have these players — even if there’s no fans in the stadium — you can’t have these players breathing on each other for two weeks. Even if they’re at a hotel, they’re going to be at different cities around the country. I hate to say it — I probably shouldn’t say it because I work for CBS — I think we’re going to shut down March Madness until we know more.”
03-12-2020 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
Our horse is out of the barn here in the US. We are beyond containment (though those steps must still be take NOW) and will soon be dealing massive mitigation.

Unfortunately our fed govt was more focused on squelching panic, downplaying risk, not spooking financial markets, "keeping my numbers down", assigning blame, instead of taking quick and decisive action to flatten our infection curve.

Luckily some state and local governments did take some early action . More should step up right now . Social distancing, closings, cancellations, etc etc.

Early on non-existent test kits made it impossible for healthcare system to contain by tracing spread.
Agree. The US response has been shockingly terrible on all fronts. Our government is a total embarassment. They have failed on so many levels and shown that all they care about is their own image (we all already know this but its really dealing damage now).
03-12-2020 , 11:46 AM
The SEC, ACC, American Athletic, and Big 10 Tournaments have been canceled due to coronavirus.

Probably everything.
03-12-2020 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by this_passing
reading news articles and other media from January/February about corona is so entertaining. i might be evil but it feels so good to see all of this going down when everyone was calling me crazy for panicking when Wuhan got shut down
Holy **** this has to be the worst post in the history of 2p2.

Imagine feeling "so good" at people dying because nobody on an online poker messageboard took you seriously!

      
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