Don't know how true, but we will find out soon.



I think Governor will announce the plan, whatever it is, sometime next week.

Dollars before sense everytime

I have been doing consulting work for espn/disney over the past year and just recently was given some work regarding potential wsop coverage. I don’t think it’s a definite sign of anything but i hope it means they are at least playing the main. This is the first year I’ve got my finances in ok enough shape to not sell my seat if I win another satty.

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Yo man i’m sorry i never post here, my statement about finances wasn’t about the stimulus fyi. I didn’t qualify fortunayely/unfortunately

Right. I’m certain what constitutes “sense” to you is the epitome of wisdom on the subject. And, clearly, the last six weeks has been all about making money.

Anyhow, the US federal government has issued guidance to the states on re-opening businesses. I see no reason to believe Nevada will be doing something different on its own. So, I assume you must disagree with this guidance. I’m curious what you believe would be a proper re-opening framework?

Doesn't really mean anything for poker. Would not be surprised at all if casinos open but most don't open the poker rooms until their is a vaccine.

You have the steepest rise in cases than anywhere in the world. But ya open er up billy bob. Great way to kill off the poor and the stupid (if that's the plan) while those with more than a month's savings will wait out the storm

i have confidence that our governor will, here in Houston, reopen the regular businesses as soon as he can unlike states like NV or CA

im not as hopeful cardrooms will be able to reopen though. seems bars are last on the list and theyre probably classified like bars. might not be til late june instead of the early may i hoped for. maybe OK will open their casinos in may. louisiana sure wont.

You gotta wonder what the state of live tournament poker is gonna be for the next 18-24 months until a vaccine is made. Probably non-existent. I mean even if a few card rooms are open they will almost all be practicing strict social distancing guidelines which means fewer people at each cash game table. If any of these places decided to even have a tournament, with all the uncertainty about who would even play how could we even see a nice guarantee? Too risky for the casinos to do that imo for quite some time.

Yeah as I wrote earlier in this thread I think cash games will be back sooner but they'll be a lot less games and more 4-5 max players at a table. But sadly I don't see a future for a long while for tournament poker which really sucks.

I think a lot of it depends on testing, or how well they find temperature checks work. If they are actually able to test people on a regular basis, that may allow for mid-sized gatherings earlier than we would otherwise expect. Probably not practical for events with thousands, but hundreds would seem plausible. BUT, I don't know if it's realistic to expect that kind of testing, either logistically or financially. And I'm talking a few months down the road - initially, any ramped up testing will need to used for health workers and more essential industries first. Entertainment venues will be low on the list, LDO.

What great action that will be when one player goes on a smoke break, another refuses to play 4-handed, the floor is called and asked to break the table and combine with who’s left from the one that has two people on dinner break. On a good night, they might even get upwards on 3 hands per hour of chopping the blinds and folding to the preflop raiser.

The management will especially love getting no rake dropped on most hands while paying dealers to schlep their empty tip boxes from table to table. How soon can we start?

Hey I'm not saying it's ideal but there will definitely be players willing to sacrifice their normal poker routine to do this. But the more I think about it I wonder if it even makes sense economically for casinos to open poker rooms in the forseeable future. Not a big money maker and just may not be worth it until things are more normalized. I still think casinos on Indian reservations like Foxwoods might be willing to open their poker room quicker than the regular casinos like in Vegas. But I think we can all agree playing poker is probably 1 of the last priorities any of the casinos will be caring about for quite some time.

lol whos even gonna wanna go to a casino a place where corona would spread like wildfire. they gonna be hurting for awhile even if business does open back up

This is in-line with what's being reported about Macau casino traffic after re-opening.

https://www.asgam.com/index.php/2020...-11-macau-irs/

"On average, each gaming floor had just seven players on tables and eight players on slots.

Notably, the busiest gaming floor of all when IAG visited was MGM Macau with 10 table game players and 25 on slots, followed by Grand Lisboa with 10 at the tables and 14 on slots."

What exactly is this "you" you are referring to? And people who make living dealing with infectious disease and public health policy have signed off on the US plans, so what makes you think your expert analysis is better?

I'm not going to predict what is going to happen. That seems pointless. But according to the US re-opening framework, stage 3 will largely be a return to normality, with large group gatherings happening again, and no strict social distancing. I'm certain those large groups will be smaller and people will still themselves be practicing some level of social distancing wherever possible out of fear. But that will no longer be the guidance. And according to the framework, stage 3 could occur in as little as 6 weeks, as long as the criteria are met. Who knows where that will occur in reality. But I continue to point out that the official US guidelines do not seem to indicate the posture in this country is going to be as it is today for then next year+ (never mind 2 years).

I think there is a lot misconception about testing... people should view/listen to the comments made by Dr Fauci and Birx, as well as the CDC director and that other navy surgeon general guy from Thursday. They really went into pretty good detail about what the testing framework is going to be as we move through the phases. The long and short of it is, they believe they need to be able to perform about 4MM tests per month in order to 1) diagnose sick people, do contact tracing, and surveillance. That translates into something like a minimum threshold 30 test per 1000 population over the next couple months. They believe they have capacity at this moment to do that, at least for a month, and are basically working every day to increase that capacity. Performing that many tests (I think they said something about it being the equivalent of how much testing they do for AIDS in a year over the course of 8 weeks), will certainly have its logistical hurdles. But their comments give me some confidence they will be able to do what they need. If there's anything we have seen from this pandemic, is that the US is able to marshal large amounts of resources in order to quickly overcome logistical hurdles.

Anyhow, think about that... 30 test per 1000 population. People who believe that everyone is going to get tested before things get back to normal are living in a fantasy land. And people who believe that a significantly higher level of testing is necessary do not seem to agree with the CDC.

I agree poker rooms will probably lag general table gaming. But I don't think there will be a huge lag. There just isn't that big a difference. Unfortunately, I think some poker rooms which were on the verge of closing shop prior to this may never come back. But the others will pick up the slack and will be as busy as ever eventually.

Same people who want to go back to their place of business, or out to a restaurant, etc. I am certain there will be a certain level of fear for some, and attendance for pretty much anything will be down for quite a long time. But people will return.

And yes, casinos will be hurting for quite a long time. In an earlier part of this thread, it was discussed that it took Vegas 2 years to return to its pre-2008 revenue levels after the financial meltdown. This is not the same situation, neither in its scope, nor in the amount of assistance governments are supplying. But it would certainly not be unreasonable to assume it will take at least that long for the financial impact of this to work itself out in the casino industry.

States better pass laws that immunize businesses that open up or they simply won't risk it unless they are basically unsueable. Insurance rates for liability coverage is going to increase as well. As is health insurance.

Don't expect to return to normal in anything like two years or so, absent vaccine/tx.

Casinos seen on leading edge of restarts
4/18/2020 Las Vegas Review Journal eEdition

"Las Vegas-based Union Gaming analyst John DeCree, in a report to investors issued Friday, said he expects large venues, such as casinos, to be among the first to open based on guidelines issued Thursday by the Trump administration."

“It is still unclear what distancing protocol for casinos would look like but could include reduced gaming capacity, greater spacing between active slot machines, fewer seats at live gaming tables, and masks for dealers,” DeCree said in the report."

"Macao is expected to be the first gaming market to recover, followed by the domestic regional market, and “lastly, the Las Vegas Strip,” he said in the report."

“We expect table minimums to start at $25 in regional markets, and perhaps $50 on the LV Strip, given lower minimum bet tables would be unprofitable, in our view, once staffing is considered,” Santarelli said."

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And even money blackjack, quadruple 0 roulette.

And $9 rake.

Oh wait, that has already been tried.

You haven't thought this through have you? It doesn't matter how far apart people are from each other if they are all touching the same cards with their hands, they're sharing germs with everyone at the table, including the dealer.