I've never understood the benefit of wearing gloves for COVID protection. I go to a drive thru and they hand me the food with gloves on and I'm thinking if you would have had the virus on your hands you now have it on your gloves so how is that helping anyone (me or them).

Same with card dealers, how is it helping them or anyone else at the table? The only benefit I can think of is it is a reminder for the glove wearer not to touch their face but it doesn't do anything for the players if the virus is on their gloves.

Probably because if everyone is wearing a mask, then that will greatly reduce aerial transmission because if someone coughs or sneezes while wearing a mask, the mask will block a large % of the droplets. Or all of the large ones and a good amount of the smaller ones? I don't know.

That's not how epidemiologists do testing. Listen to what they say when they speak (in other words ignore the politicians for the moment). This is what these people devote their lives to.

In any case, the sort of "ramp-up" you describe seems sort of far-fetched to me. A) there doesn't appear to be a significant shortage of capacity in the US and B) nobody I have heard from in a position power, even those who are playing things more cautiously, is treating this like an existential threat, as was the case during the World Wars.

I was talking about gloves. Masks I understand.

lol, I knew that, but for some reason went off on Masks. Multi tasking.

I’ve heard lots of epidemiologists speak on this point (including my father who is a former chief of viral epidemiology at NIH).

Every one of them, except those connected with the administration, has stated that we need to massively ramp up testing capacity before we can consider reopening.

Whoop de do. Most of the states get shut out where online poker is illegal.

Because there's a universe of possible outcomes between risk-free (no chance of catching the virus) and 100% probability of catching it. The purpose of the mitigation factors is to move the needle between those two extremes but that only works if people collectively comply with the strategy.

These people have worked under multiple Administrations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Birx

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci

I have no reason to mistrust their impartiality, qualifications and judgement. Your father must have worked with these people somewhere along the line since they were also at NIH. Ask him where they're going wrong. I'd be curious to know. What exactly does he see that is not being put forth by these folks.

You can also PM me his wiki page. If he is who you say he is I'd me more inclined to consider what his recommendations are.

I believe that was obviously a joke post.

can't happen due to online being rigged. Come on man

That post may have been a joke, but I saw the following paragraph in ESPN article and wondered how inclusive these online tourneys would be if most of the USA is shutout from legal online poker. What are these "official WSOP competitions"? Are they qualifiers or the real bracelet events?

I inferred your original post against the protests to imply your position was the needle needs to be parked at one end of the spectrum. If that was not what you were saying then my response doesn't apply.

Bummer. Always my favorite vacation of the year.

Given what's happening, this was inevitable though.

As others have said, the only surprise was that this announcement took this long.

Will we see a “One antibody drop for Covid - 1.9 million buy in?”

Whatever you think of the larger-scale serological studies, they seem to line up with studies of small populations given an actual covid test.

As one example, New York city has been testing all pregnant women admitted to the hospital for delivery. They found that 15% of patients tested positive as of April 4, and 90% of those cases were asymptomatic.

This would suggest that NYC is underestimating infections by at least a factor of 10, and possibly significantly more. To the extent that we see cases declining there, is may simply be because they are approaching herd immunity.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2009316

As long as you avoid touching your face and dispose of them properly the gloves protect the dealers => less of them get sick => they infect less people

Masks seem to work btw, my country dropped the curve rapidly after harsh lock down measures and mandatory face masks - and they plan to make them stay for months. Just seems it doesn't necessarily protect you individually too much, but en mass it limits the spread in public places.



Also the virus is clearly just like a flu
If flu came in for the first time and we didn't know much about it - and historically it's had huge impacts, that's why mass testing and data should be a n1 priority.

Loads of people die of flu complications but it's predictable and therefore manageable

It's still possible the summer slows down the new Corona

i never understod why WSOP is in the mid of the summer,

im from scandinavia so i like the warm sun, and in the middel of summer when the best weather in the year, to sit inside weeks in and weeks out, AND when the winter is comming all i do i sit inside...

Poker is a inside sport, vintergame imo why not have WSOP in the winter, when its shitty weather outside anyways?

The summer in Scandinavia is much different than the summer in Las Vegas. Winter in Vegas is actually more pleasant than the scorching heat of the summer.

Has always been in middle of summer because that's a time in Vegas where they have a lot of unused convention space at the Rio. Just a business decision by them, nothing else.

ABOUT TIME IT WAS POSTPONED!!!!!!!!!

When re-scheduled it will "never be the same"!!!!


Much like everything else in life .........
SAD.......

The pregnant women study is both interesting and important. But I think you are probably really far off regarding the idea that "to the extent that we see cases declining there, it may simply be because they are approaching herd immunity." The fact is that is that NYC had to implement not small, but massive social-behavioral changes on a scale that we've probably have never seen in the history of human civilization. Just think about what they are doing everyday. And this has been going on solidly for many weeks. We've bent the curve because of these (awful) shutdowns and lock-ins. Necessary, yes. But there is no doubt that these dramatic social changes have deeply influenced the curve.

Finally, I don't think NYC is anywhere near herd immunity, but I would love to be wrong about that. We'll know in a few weeks with ramped up serological testing.

They will not be inclusive. WSOP.com has a presence in the US, but its clearly not the same as the WSOP at large.

I too would prefer if it were a different time of year, namely this time of year when the weather in Vegas is much much better than where I live.

But this as been discussed a bit here and elsewhere.

1) Summer = fewer conventions to compete against (WSOP would not be able to compete)

2) Summer = more vacation/free time for recreational players to be able to play with kids out of school

If you just want the WSOP to be the best 500 hundred players in the world competing for relatively small prize-pools and bracelets, then yes, it can be held pretty much any time of year.

Read about the Black Plague. And the 1918-19 Spanish Flu.