The NY Post did not mention in the article that Smithfield Foods (the world's largest pork processor) was bought by (surprise, surprise) a Chinese company in 2013. Apparently they raise the hogs in the US, then send them to China to be slaughtered and processed and then send the meat back to the US to be sold in supermarkets restaurants, and schools. Globalization Gone Wild. Given those facts it's not surprising this Chinese owned company has so many cases.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sm...d-foods-china/

People who use the term ******ed in this context reveal their immaturity.

The risk / reward analysis is being done by people with access to far more data than you have, so why don't you think about what happens in the USA if the hospitals are overwhelmed, and COVID hits all law enforcement officers at once? Complete social, legal AND economic breakdown for $100, Alex.

They are doing for this what they should be doing for global warming. Maybe it isn't likely the end is coming, but I think even a 5% chance deserves some kind of temporary counter-measures to at least try to alleviate the suffering of the people.

Technically, unless someone comes up with a theory of everything, then there really is no such thing as settled science. Nor is there "ultimate truth"... at least not in the realm of science.

Really ?

Did you even bother to READ the snopes fact-check ? Snopes said what you wrote above is FALSE.

"What's False

China will not be slaughtering and processing hogs raised in the U.S. and shipping them back to America."


You nevertheless are saying above that live hogs are shipped to China, slaughtered and processed there, with the processed meat shipped back to the US ?

What, then, was the pork processing plant in Iowa doing, in your view ? I was pretty sure they were processing pork. At least that's what the videos showed ....

At least make some effort to READ what you are citing in your posts, please ?

Almost all of law enforcement falls in the 0.2% category. Get sick, get well, go to work. TikTok's full of videos of nurses doing dance routines. Economic breakdown is what's happening now in Vancouver where they're handling the economic slowdown so well the city's already on the verge of declaring bankruptcy.

The people with the data, these are the same people who have been debating (and disagreeing on) the merits of something as basic as wearing masks so I don't really give two craps about their opinion unless it's backed by said data empirically with references, and not some jumbled array of numbers spun so many times they don't know up from down.

Covid-19 is the Nature's answer to improve the air quality that nobody seem to care about.

I thought that's what Godzilla was for.

Maybe Ted should just stay in his lane - The (Electronic) Poker Hotel Emporium and whether "it could make it".

Do you even read the crap you post?

The article in the link says that they will NOT be shipping hogs to China to be slaughtered and then shipped back

Aren't you going to at least thank me for informing you that the company you posted about located in South Dakota in owned by a Chinese company. Even the New York Post didn't report that.

And it appears someone is shipping (to the US) some pork products from China:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1R32GS

And the Snopes article says they could not find verification of the story. Well not finding verification of something does not make something false. I mean China is not exactly known for freely giving out such information.

No, it's not. An easy mistake to make if you read the headlines, but this is simply an issue of the mayor having decided he needs to go public with his concerns that his city requires provincial and/or federal assistance. It's all based on a poll that shows 25% of Vancouverites say they won't be able to pay their property taxes on July 1st.

In BC we've done a gentler version of shutdown than in most other areas of North America, and have so far been fortunate enough to have comparatively very low numbers of hospitalizations and fatalities. If Vancouver is in trouble, then there's a very, very long list of other cities in trouble as well, likely bigger. I suspect Vancouver isn't in nearly the trouble they've portrayed, but if it's made national/international news, I guess the mayor accomplished his goal.

No, that's not all it says. It also says:

And:

You provided the article as a source for your claim. At best case, if your newest argument is right, your Snopes source neither proves nor disproves your claim, and thus was simply pointless, rather than directly refuting what you posted. That's best case.

It's OK to just admit you ****ed up and move on. We all **** up sometimes. Trying to argue your way out of an obvious **** up just makes you look ridiculous.

No, aside from the entertainment value of your doubling down , I'm not impressed with your investigative reporting.....

The snopes article also discussed wha would seem obvious to one as Well Read as you, what you describe would be prohibitively expensive a practice ....


"Moreover, people engaged in that industry have told us that the notion of a Chinese-owned company raising hogs in the U.S., shipping them live all the way to China for slaughtering and processing, then exporting the meat back into the U.S. would be prohibitively cost-inefficient — especially since the slaughtering and processing infrastructures already exist in the U.S., and the Chinese domestic market for pork is far, far larger than the U.S. market for pork."

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never mind, Carry on.

OK, they might slaughter the hogs here but they still send the carcasses over to China. Actually it might be safer from a health standpoint (although not a economic standpoint) to wait to slaughter them over in China but the fact still remains the company in South Dakota that has about 350 workers with the Coronavirus is owned by a Chinese Company and that fact was not known in here until I wrote about it. To be fair I should be thanked for disclosing that important fact instead of !00% negativity I get.

Didn't Read Well Ted

We have to thank every poster when they bring forward any new information? Wow, that's going to be tedious.

I'll just let everyone know now, I am not requiring thanks for the times I've brought new information to a thread in the past, not will I in the future. It happens organically every once in a while, and I'm good with that. Hopefully you all are as well, because while I thank people sometimes, I certainly don't do so every time.

Ted, thanks for your wonderful information. If you hadn't told me that the company in South Dakota that has about 350 workers with the Coronavirus is owned by a Chinese Company, I might not have found out. I have no idea why it is important, but since you're insisting on being thanked for it, I'm sure it must be extremely important. Thanks again for letting me know.

You are quite simple for such a well read guy:

What do you think it costs to ship 1
(or 10,000) live hogs to China?

How much does it cost to raise those same hogs(either in China or the US)

And then what are the costs to ship back this finished product? And how much savings are you proposing that Smithfield is realizing by this?


Which is cheaper? The pork shipped around the world or the domestic pork that we are actually exporting to China?

I haven't checked this thread for a while. It's devolved to arguing about where hogs are slaughtered. Now I remember why I stopped checking.

Do those hogs return to the US bilingual?

So if China wanted to buy all the beef processing plants in Western Canada (which is not that improbable given they're practically buying up everything) do you think it might be advantageous for you (and your government officials) to know that there is a single Chinese owned pork processing plant in the US that has 350 workers with the Coronavirus.

Probably, but this isn't a meat processing thread, so it's not especially relevant here. I'm moving on; perhaps you should as well.

Somebody needs to open a meat processing themed casino. The Chinese degens would love it.

Great use of the WSOP POSTPONEMENT THREAD

I'm pretty sure he was, you just didn't agree with him.

I would hope not, the models used for global warming are more unreliable than the models used for COVID.