Do you just love to argue? Is that your thing? Lots of things in life involve risk assumed by the person who chooses to engage in the activity. Society can impose some rules and take some steps to mitigate risks, but in the end, the person assumes some risk of the choose to do something.

Why would anybody be here, yourself included, if they didn't appreciate a good debate (argument, if you like)? Anyhow, Bobo has his own point of view, and is certainly capable of defending himself, but he's as reasonable a poster as you will find in 2+2. Its possible to just disagree with someone without questioning what their "thing" is in some sort of negative way.

All I see him do is either argue with anything anyone says or point to a negative aspect. The fact is, in the end, people take responsibility for their actions whether they want to or not. If I want to play poker in a room full of sickly people on oxygen tanks and with flesh-eating bacteria wounds, etc, it’s my choice damnit!

At this point in time there have been millions of Covid cases and hundreds of thousands of Covid deaths worldwide. Nobody can really believe that all these people "accepted the risk" of catching Covid and possibly dying from it.

Of course, everyone now knows that Covid is likely to be transmitted to others and has a rather long incubation period meaning that there is a significant "disconnect" between Person A taking an action today (e.g., visiting a casino) and catching the disease and/or passing it on to someone else (Person B) who in turn could likely pass it on to someone else and possibly resulting in other people (Persons X, Y, and Z) getting very sick and possibly dying several weeks later, all being "unknown" to Person A.

As mentioned above healthcare workers are the ones who bear the brunt of the increased community risks. Whatever the small risk any one person has in catching the virus, it is a near certainty that someone will and they (or someone down the chain) will wind up in a hospital putting healthcare workers at risk.

So posts that harp on the "individually assumed risk" argument are both disingenuous and annoying.

Just read an article in the LA Times that the governor is trying to convince the indian casinos that are planning to reopen in the state to not do so. He wants them to wait until his phase 3.

So if that is the case then the cardrooms in California like Commerce and Bike won't be opening for months. California is implementing a 4 phase reopening plan and phase 3 seems like a distant event right now. Especially in LA County.

Arizona is probably still on its first wave. It's one of the states that hasn't yet had a clear peak (and subsequent decline) in fatalities, but since those casino-goers have apparently offered themselves as a 'control group', the rest of the country can watch what happens when you end 'stay at home' orders.
At the time of writing, Arizona has only had 679 deaths according to Worldometers, so it's been relatively unscathed by the virus, and is currently ranked 20th in the States for most deaths. Give it a couple of months though, and Arizona could well be in the top 15 with a death toll approaching 3000. It's not gonna do numbers like the more populous states, but it has the potential to increase its current death toll five- or sixfold by the end of July. It's probably safer to go to an Arizona casino today than it will be in two weeks. With the 'stay at home' order being lifted, the state's R naught is almost certain to rise. It's already estimated to be greater than 1 in Arizona, signifying exponential growth. (NY, NJ, PA and most other states have falling daily death rates due to having R naughts of <1). With an estimated 98% of the Arizona population lacking immunity, the virus is only just getting started there.

And that's how to get shut down before your 5th post

I read that article. Not much the Governor can do accept beg them not to open.

These casinos provide virtually 100% of the revenue to their tribes. Of course they are going to open. Good luck suing one of the tribes if you think you got the virus there. They are in a decent spot right now with very little competition.

Again. You’re arguing with me right now. It’s sort of what these boards are about. I wouldn’t get too bent out of shape over it.

I don’t see any reason to surmise that those kinds of posts are disingenuous. And heaven forbid you find something annoying.

Anyhow, by the tone of your post I take it you do not believe any “non-essential” person should be allowed to go into public until such time as it’s absolutely safe. After all, if you step out and are infected, but showing no symptoms, then you are endangering an unknown and large number of innocent people “down the line”. If this is not what you’re trying to say, then please clarify.

Exactly. I only mentioned that article here to emphasize how long it might really take for Commerce and the Bike and other LA card rooms to reopen. Now we know Newsom won't open casinos until phase 3 which is not close right now. But you read the twitter feeds of those 2 card rooms and they are kind of acting like they hope it will be soon.

since the Bike and the Commerce basically dont have a casino (by that i mean no slots) they will want to reopen poker as soon as they can. unlike a lot of other casinos that dont care. what we should be trying to find out from those we know who work in management there is will they offer 6 handed or more tables instead of 4 handed or less

I am a healthcare worker. And get this, I work in an ICU dedicated to COVID patients. Every day I expose myself to know cases. But you know which healthcare workers contract the illness the least? Those who work in the COVID units. Why? Because we take measures to protect ourselves. No reason I can’t play poker in my PPE.

No slots? What do they offer besides high quality GTO poker? Craps? BJ?

I think they are shooting for 6 handed because of some pics I saw on the twitter feeds. But I read an article in the Mercury News that there is a beginning stage and an advanced stage in phase 2 of California's reopening plan. So to say California has a 4 phase plan is misleading. It's really a 5 phase plan. And LA County is in phase 1 with no plans to move into phase 2 anytime soon.

Again, it's looking like the card rooms in Los Angeles might not be reopening for most of the summer.

If there was ever a case for desegregation of online poker, now is the time. The US should just open up online poker and tax it and let people play in every state ffs. Do it!

I played in the Commerce two days before closing and it was maybe a 1/3 of its usual capacity. Majority of dealers were wearing masks.

The ‘Asian’ room can open immediately with the same guidelines of Vegas with three players per table. And they will do very well.

The poker room needs to make it at a minimum 6-handed. I just can’t see that many players playing 4-handed. The one thing I hate about Commerce is how many games are broken up just because it is 6-handed. Players start going crazy asking for players. They make tables ‘must-move’ which really sucks.

I guess you got to start somewhere though.

No craps.
Just bstardized versions of BJ, Pai Gow (tiles & poker), Baccarat.

I know those of us from the UK and the US aren't really in a position to judge but I really don't like the look of the way the Brazilian graph is going.
We don't have the favelas/slums like they do and I don't think they are going to be able to contain it.

Is it kind of like 15 minutes in to that World Cup semi final?

The poster knows exactly what he's trying to say. It's clearly written in plain english.

If you have to misinterpret the post completely and then ask that your faulty interpretation be agreed with or otherwise clarified then you might begin to understand why your tendency to need to reply to most posts in the thread in a veiled argumentative way may start to aggravate people.

Probably looks more like the 2014 Group Play and the failure to advance beyond group lol.

Akashenk gettin' all lathered up again, might be due for another timeout in the corner.

Yes yes yes!

I tend to give people the benefit of doubt to be decent and fair, until proven otherwise. Its one of my faults.