I think that’s pretty much what most officials were saying for some time, except maybe with less colorful language.

If that's the case you and I spin in different google algorithms. From where I'm sitting it's been an incoherent blast of cognitive dissonance and half-explanations that don't even try to follow a consistent chain of logic.

https://deadline.com/2020/04/beverly...er-1202905701/
https://www.clickorlando.com/news/lo...d-19-pandemic/

Yup, Doctors and Nurse just wear them for no reasons.

Sure there is:

Yeah, I can't speak to the nonsense that's spun a lot of the time, especially in the US by some politicians unfortunately, but they've been pretty up front here that they want masks saved for healthcare professionals. They're being quite cautious, and doing everything they can to make sure there's enough of all PPE for the people that need them most.

And then there are the other issues like mask adjustment/fiddling causing problems, false sense of security, etc. weighing against the benefits. I'm sure the pros still outweigh the cons, but I get the impression that our experts here think that the benefit isn't great enough that they need to recommend everyone start wearing cloth masks of some kind.

My local supermarket has instituted a policy in which customers must wear some sort of protective equipment -- even if it's only a scarf covering both nose and mouth -- before going into their store. It's a minor hassle, but I'm okay with it.

For those who say it doesn't really accomplish anything, well, it depends on what you're trying to accomplish. No, unless you're walking around in a PAPR or you have an N95 or N99 mask, you're never fully protected from the actual virus.

However, even when recommending to save the N95+ masks for the pros, the guidelines long instructed people to be sure they sneeze or cough into a cloth in an effort to prevent transmission. Having people wear some sort of mask takes that to the next level. They're now asking people to exhale into a cloth.

Of course, those directives made sense: the size of the droplets that come out from a cough or sneeze tend to be larger than that of an ordinary puff of breath. Plus, the smaller droplets travel farther and hover in the air longer. Even an ultra-tight weave (think of a bed sheet with a high thread count) will not come close to blocking those.

As has been mentioned already, there are concerns that requiring lower-grade PPE has some downsides: namely, people might get lackadaisical once they have a mask on. Those are fair concerns. So all of this assumes that every other measure (e.g. social distancing, proper hygiene) is maintained.

An odd analogy I made in a conversation a few days ago: if someone was pointing a gun at me, I would rather have a chain link fence in the way than nothing at all. But in reality, I mostly just want to get the hell out of the way.

casinos are also angel shooters and in some cases cheating
there have been many cases of casinos trying to weasel out of paying big jackpots, casinos shuffling up on card counters (100 percent cheating),casinos trying not to pay card counters (usually doesn't happen, but it still does happen sometimes, more so on indian casinos) try not to pay out promotions when they didn't understand how valueable the promotions were until they got hammered by APs

Do i think most casinos would cheat by rigging shufflers? No.
But there are hundreds of casinos in the country- i'm sure a few rogue ones will and have.

and that argument would be completely wrong.

The two links you posted go to "orders" not laws.

HUGE difference. It is not illegal in these two places to be without a mask or covering. Same as the "stay at home ORDERS" are not laws forcing ppl to stay at home.

Unless things work a lot differently in the US, I don't know what else an order would be. From the first article:

And from the second:

I wonder if you were talking about the difference between a recommendation and an order. These aren't recommendations, they're orders.

Your question is understood, but I don't think that's a correct application of the clinical term "cognitive dissonance".

Cognitive Dissonance essentially refers to the internal psychological conflict within oneself when your actions or decisions aren't harmonious with your core beliefs or values.

Glad I don't live in those places.

Doctors and nurses don't traditionally wear them in the US... only those in a surgical environment. And that is, again, to protect the patient, not the doctors/nurses.

Frankly, the best use of these face coverings would not be for the healthcare professionals to use themselves, but rather for them to give to their patients when they come in.That would do much more to protect the healthcare professionals..

I think you are conflating illegal activity with unethical activity (or at a minimum, weasel-y activity). They are not the same thing. I agree there are likely some casinos engaging in illegal activity. I'd be far more apt to believe it usually involves things like illegal activity on the premises (drug/prostitution rings, money laundering, skimming etc.) than rigging games of chance. But the latter undoubtedly does occur, even if rarely.

Shooting angels is much worse than cheating....especially on Easter.

When a casino orders an Angel Shot, she'll be hustled out the back door into a waiting cab.

Agreed. If I were a casino in this economic climate, I wouldn't be looking to piss anyone off, never mind a divine being.

So you are basically asserting prob(no moon landing) ~ prob(exploitable digital game).

As long as software is written/integrated/tested/deployed/maintained by humans, your assertion is completely false.

That doesn’t logically follow. Considering two things to be conspiracy theories does not necessarily mean that they are considered to have anywhere near the same probability of being true.

He did not make an assertion. He said he categorizes people who believe one with those that believe the other. You cannot conclude that his statement on how he groups people in his own mind is false. You can state that you disagree that they should be grouped together.

No, but when a person claims A is just like B, it is not unreasonable for other people to surmise that the person believes A has a lot in common with B, and not just some technical similarity. I mean, if I were to tell you tomatoes are just like pears, I would be technically right, since they are both classified botanically as fruit. But most people would look askew at that sort of comparison, or maybe just decide I like to compare apples to oranges when making an argument.

An assertion is a statement of belief. So yes, even by your characterization, he was making an assertion. And by stating his belief was false, Pokerhero was making his own assertion. There’s nothing wrong, logically or linguistically, with either.

It might not be illegal to not wear a mask but I'm not sure what you would call this.

PTLou was stating that's how he groups people in his mind. You can't disagree with that. You can only say that you would not group them the same, or you can even say that you don't see the basis for grouping them the same. But you cannot say that PTLou grouping them together in his mind "was false." That makes no logical sense because it is true that he does, and whatever Pokerhero believes doesn't change that.

Masks being required to board public transit vehicles is far different that it being illegal to be out in public without a mask. This isn't only in Philly, NJ and NY are also restricting entry into stores and/or transit only to those wearing masks.

I have no idea what all that means, but...

1) Eponymous is almost always correct, so yeah.

2) you have come across as lucid and intelligent ITT, but I now I believe that you believe the moon landing was faked, along with other conspiracy theories so run that through your Mersenne Twister RNG.

People are psyched are phones are getting tracked.

It's already over.