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01-22-2014 , 12:09 PM
In light of the past five years or so, is there any amount of cheating, stealing and otherwise unethical or criminal behavior that would really surprise anyone anymore???
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01-22-2014 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by wilmont
In light of the past five years or so, is there any amount of cheating, stealing and otherwise unethical or criminal behavior that would really surprise anyone anymore???
Absolutely no, although some of the sheer stupidity shown is still very funny.
Another important point is not letting every ****tard feel comfortable pulling this kind of ****. although that clearly is the case at the moment.
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01-22-2014 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilGreebo
I'll be finding out.

I found out that Lock took Marylanders and didn't stop to research them first. Deposited $300, then read up on them.

Put in my withdrawal request last week. We'll see. I'm counting it as stupid tax though.

the fact that this type of thing is still happening is absolutely outrageous

I r/t'd a few things about this and would encourage others to do the same - not that I have a huge following, but if you can prevent even one innocent person from funding this site you've done something positive
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01-22-2014 , 04:52 PM
it's very disappointing that Card Player is ignoring the poker community on this issue, saying this in your disclaimer isn't good enough.
You should remove any site that is scamming their victims !

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Further, you understand and accept that Card Player is unable to provide any third party assurances; you agree that we are not responsible or liable, directly or indirectly, for any damage or loss caused by or in connection with your participation at the Sites.
http://www.cardplayer.com/online-pok...ne-poker-rooms
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01-22-2014 , 09:00 PM
Disclaimer: Personally I don´t give a **** about Card Player but it´s a shame that they are getting the money meant for the players that have been waiting for such a long time.

Go **** yourself Card Player and Lock Poker! ******s like you make the job easier to anti-gambling lobbyists as well.


Anybody willing to participate in this operation could post this to their facebook:


FACEBOOK LINK https://www.facebook.com/cardplayer

Please stop promoting Lock Poker (http://lockpoker.eu/) in order to prevent less informed players from depositing there. Lock Poker does not let you cash out or it will take forever to get the requested funds.

What you are doing is promoting a scam while increasing the likelihood of players trusting you losing their money.

More info can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSHlZ_tr2qg

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...hread-1328161/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...pdate-1359432/



The posts for Card Player´s and Barry Shulman´s twitter:

I suggest to go to their twitter pages and press reply to their latest tweets because then it will appear under the tweet if anybody presses expand, though I don´t know if they can delete replies. I guess they can delete their own tweet but that will make their life harder as well.

If you want to do this, go to:


DIRECT LINKS TO TWITTER

https://twitter.com/CardPlayerMedia

https://twitter.com/barry_shulman

then press reply under their tweets and make sure that only their @-tags will be in the beginning of the tweet. Then copy this into the tweet:

Stop endorsing @lockpoker to prevent less informed players from depositing to a site that will not let them withdraw


If you have a decent number of followers and/or want to easily tweet it under your account, then use those:

@CardPlayerMedia Stop endorsing @lockpoker to prevent less informed players from depositing to a site that will not let them withdraw

@barry_shulman Stop endorsing @lockpoker to prevent less informed players from depositing to a site that will not let them withdraw




Now, something that should be discussed. To get the pressure on it is needed that big-name pros will share the situation as they have a big following among the less informed recreational players as well and this will definitely help to get the information out there and to the players who will benefit from it. It will also put pressure on card player.

I can see the sponsorships being an issue and the pros not being allowed to tweet stuff like that, but Daniel Negreanu at least has been vocal about stuff before. Men the master comes to mind etc. Worth a shot.

So, I kind of feel bad, if they will start getting that spam but maybe they will lend a hand to get the information out there.

So here are the tweets for the big-name pros with big followings so they maybe could retweet the issue which will be the best way to get the information to less informed recreational players:

I chose players that to me associate with more general recognition among the poker fans.

To keep you from needing to use the keyboard, heres the link for twitter:

https://twitter.com/


@RealKidPoker Could you please tweet @CardPlayerMedia to stop endorsing @lockpoker to protect less informed players. Thank you, if possible!

@phil_hellmuth Could you please tweet @CardPlayerMedia to stop endorsing @lockpoker to protect less informed players. Thank you,if possible!

@CMONEYMAKER Could you please tweet @CardPlayerMedia to stop endorsing @lockpoker to protect less informed players. Thank you, if possible!

@RyanRiess1 Could you please tweet @CardPlayerMedia to stop endorsing @lockpoker to protect less informed players. Thank you, if possible!

@Liv_Boeree Could you please tweet @CardPlayerMedia to stop endorsing @lockpoker to protect less informed players. Thank you, if possible!

@ViktorBlom Could you please tweet @CardPlayerMedia to stop endorsing @lockpoker to protect less informed players. Thank you, if possible!

@GusHansen Could you please tweet @CardPlayerMedia to stop endorsing @lockpoker to protect less informed players. Thank you, if possible!


I kind of feel bad that it is more useful tweeting this spam to these pros than to primordial or annette obrestad etc, but what you gonna do.

If any mod is willing to take part in this, you could copy that information to the first post maybe. I will also post the link of this post to other Lock threads and then will do my round of spamming.

Anybody that has nothing better to do and who will do this will be awesome. I have twice in my life been the only schmuck to stand up to clap to a performance, once in a concert and once in a theater. Not the best feeling if nobody comes along.
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01-23-2014 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jaakkang
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@phil_hellmuth Could you please tweet @CardPlayerMedia to stop endorsing @lockpoker to protect less informed players. Thank you,if possible!
I believe Phil owns a piece of Card Player Media. Therefore I'd expect him to be every bit as vocal about this situation as he was about the troubles at UltimateBet. That is, mute.
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01-23-2014 , 11:50 AM
tyvm for that post jaakkang

if enough of us start doing this, it may actually make a difference, although I suspect lock is on the way out anyway... speeding up the process and protecting innocent people from depositing is still a worthy enough goal
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01-23-2014 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bparis
tyvm for that post jaakkang

if enough of us start doing this, it may actually make a difference, although I suspect lock is on the way out anyway... speeding up the process and protecting innocent people from depositing is still a worthy enough goal
You would think but a post about some dude that nicks $700 with chopsticks get over 160k views
What CP is doing by advertising these thieves is far worse for the poker community.

#priorities
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01-23-2014 , 06:26 PM
Any comments on CardPlayer's Facebook Page, even asking about why they advertise Lock, have been deleted.

Edit: I have re-posted. 5:45 Thurs PM ET. Lets see how long it lasts.

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Why did you delete my (and other players) previous post(s) ? Many in the Poker Community would like to better understand why you continue to advertise Lock Poker, and expose newer members of our community to a company with so many obvious issues in serving it's customers. Some of us don't understand how you are able to promote such an organization. Please explain.

Last edited by ZenForest; 01-23-2014 at 06:49 PM.
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01-24-2014 , 11:09 AM
Highstakes DB still has Lock included in their top poker deals. It states that they are still on the Revolution network.
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01-24-2014 , 09:56 PM
[QUOTE=jaakkang;41893061]Disclaimer: Personally I don´t give a **** about Card Player but it´s a shame that they are getting the money meant for the players that have been waiting for such a long time.

Go **** yourself Card Player and Lock Poker! ******s like you make the job easier to anti-gambling lobbyists as well.




You would think this would work the other way instead of little its citizens to continue to get scammed one company after another they would just regulate it and make sure this doesn't happen
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01-24-2014 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tgallant
Highstakes DB still has Lock included in their top poker deals. It states that they are still on the Revolution network.
Highstakes DB needs to be alerted too.
http://www.highstakesdb.com/community/
http://www.highstakesdb.com/contact-us.aspx
https://twitter.com/highstakesdb
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01-25-2014 , 01:16 AM
People here should also contact Allyn Jaffrey Shulman.

It's pretty clear that Barry and Jeff know, but Allyn may not, and she might actually be moral enough to do something about it.
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01-25-2014 , 02:10 AM
^or at the very least see the long term financial ramifications of having dealings with them.
https://twitter.com/ajaffrey
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01-25-2014 , 06:13 AM
Long shot, but it may be a good move to pressure your local card rooms to stop putting CP in their rooms. I'm sure they don't pay much, if anything, for the magazines, but it gives CP it's target market and makes the magazine very attractive to it's advertisers. If we could get a room or two to cut ties with CP over this it may move the needle enough.
Now I doubt many rooms will care enough to deal with it, but maybe we can get lucky. Point out the fact that they are clearly advertising a shady company which is scamming players. Possibly even bring it up with your local gaming commission and try to get them to understand what Lock really is and why they should not allow them to be promoted in their casinos.
Honestly, I believe this would be the only way to stop CP from promoting the Lock Poker scam, because obviously they have no integrity, we know that. They listen to money and if we can cost them money, other than a few individual subscriptions, they may pull Lock. Other than that they will keep sending it's readers off to be fleeced as long as Lock can keep paying them.
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01-25-2014 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by uwantdeznutz



You would think this would work the other way instead of little its citizens to continue to get scammed one company after another they would just regulate it and make sure this doesn't happen

It should, but when you check the discussion by the current anti-online lobby, they bring up all sorts of things that are pro-regulation but insist that it´s about prohibition.

All the shadiness and scamming can be used as a good example of why online gambling should be prohibited. Of course it should be used for pro-regulation, but I cannot see it helping the case.
For pro-regulation the why not regulate because it´s safe and brings revenue is much better angle imo.


edit: My prediction is that they can continue promoting Lock until they go bust, because it´s not a big issue and nobody will take it up enough to force them to stop. It´s far easier and takes less effort to discuss it here until something bigger comes along as case with most shady ****.

Last edited by jaakkang; 01-25-2014 at 09:33 AM.
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01-25-2014 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 413AceKing
Long shot, but it may be a good move to pressure your local card rooms to stop putting CP in their rooms. I'm sure they don't pay much, if anything, for the magazines, but it gives CP it's target market and makes the magazine very attractive to it's advertisers. If we could get a room or two to cut ties with CP over this it may move the needle enough.
Now I doubt many rooms will care enough to deal with it, but maybe we can get lucky. Point out the fact that they are clearly advertising a shady company which is scamming players. Possibly even bring it up with your local gaming commission and try to get them to understand what Lock really is and why they should not allow them to be promoted in their casinos.
Honestly, I believe this would be the only way to stop CP from promoting the Lock Poker scam, because obviously they have no integrity, we know that. They listen to money and if we can cost them money, other than a few individual subscriptions, they may pull Lock. Other than that they will keep sending it's readers off to be fleeced as long as Lock can keep paying them.

Great Idea.

I will be contacting Foxwoods and MoheganSun in Connecticut, in person, mid-week on my next trip down.

Will report back on the conversation by Friday.
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01-27-2014 , 06:01 PM
Hey Card Player - here's what your Lock Poker page should look like.

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01-27-2014 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by IHasTehNutz
Hey Card Player - here's what your Lock Poker page should look like.

Great Image. I took the liberty to post a tweet today with your image in it. My last tweet got over 20 retweets and nice reach. Please retweet my tweet today!

https://twitter.com/MarioSilvestri3/...30323779719168
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01-27-2014 , 07:55 PM
I tweeted that out too...haha. Not as big a reach yet. Should've retweeted my tweet! :P

In any case, getting the word out is best in regards to that image. Took longer to match the colors then re-writing...hopefully CP will get the drift eventually.
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01-27-2014 , 08:08 PM
Retweeted. (@IHasTehNutz)
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01-28-2014 , 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by IHasTehNutz
Hey Card Player - here's what your Lock Poker page should look like.
n1. I like the withdraw options:

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Hope, prayer, carrier pigeon
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01-29-2014 , 10:43 AM
Card Player has removed multiple posts on their FaceBook page from others pressuring them about their continued allegiance with Lock, and is now blocking me (and others, presumably) from posting anything else on their page.

Now the best I can do is tag Card Player on my own page.
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01-29-2014 , 11:00 AM
^wow what a way to ruin a once respectable part of the community, they should know that the longer they let this linger the worse it's going to get.
nip it in the bud before it grows out of control, do you really want to be thought as an accessory CP?
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01-29-2014 , 12:07 PM
In my opinion we need to take a closer look into the relationship between Lock and Card Player. It seems to me that a respectable business would not want to risk their reputation by associating themselves with a scam like Lock poker. Maybe the owners of each company are friends? Maybe CP has more to lose than just Locks advertising? I am not quite sure what the deal is but it requires some investigating.
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