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Borgata finds counterfeit 5k chips in WPO #1-Cncls event-Arrest made-Lawsuit filed-*RULING OUT* Borgata finds counterfeit 5k chips in WPO #1-Cncls event-Arrest made-Lawsuit filed-*RULING OUT*

04-07-2014 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdadio48
i dont get it either,450-28th get paid and 27th-1st get a refund... great logic, very intelligent.
First tournament where 28th wins more than 1st, BRILLIANT!! There is no way to get the money back from the people who cashed, no logical conclusion leads to 28th>>1st. I see why people want refunds but it cannot come at the expense of the 27 remaining players IMO.
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04-07-2014 , 09:01 PM
I think it's wishful thinking that they are going to issue refunds in the first place. More than likely the result you are going to see is everyone who didn't cash before the tournament was halted will be allowed to cash and the remaining 27 will end up taking an even chop. Good luck getting a refund.
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04-07-2014 , 09:26 PM
TabDuchateau: Borgata Spring Open Event 1a 1 mil guar. Starts tom. at 11am. will be using new chips with enhanced security

#warned



https://twitter.com/tabduchateau/sta...42076395323392
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04-07-2014 , 09:40 PM
One thing about 2+2, the news travels fast

Tab also said these are decoys, not pics of the actual chips...
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04-07-2014 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
Even chop will never fly. No way all 27 would accept that.
What makes you think the players will have any say in it?
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04-07-2014 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jigsaw
TabDuchateau: Borgata Spring Open Event 1a 1 mil guar. Starts tom. at 11am. will be using new chips with enhanced security

#warned



https://twitter.com/tabduchateau/sta...42076395323392
#warned huh

F him, he needs to be warned. One more fook up won't be great on his resume

He basically just throws out the same series year after year. Just change the dates and make the structure slightly worse. Profit. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to do his job.
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04-08-2014 , 02:51 AM
Tab just tweet new Borgata chips to be introduce to start the Spring Open. After 10+ years they are finally replacing these chips.

New chips appeared to have RFID technology. Hope all casinos can learn from the counterfeit Winter Open scandal and follow suit.

I applauded the quick action in replacing these chips. Curious if the prelims will all use the same chips.

-Tuna
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04-08-2014 , 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
To be fair, Borgata doesn't have any control over the weather.
Think it was a typo and he didn't mean weather
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04-08-2014 , 06:34 AM
reason number 171 that i want to get paid: so I can go to the Borgata and see the cool chips
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04-08-2014 , 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Jigsaw
TabDuchateau: Borgata Spring Open Event 1a 1 mil guar. Starts tom. at 11am. will be using new chips with enhanced security

#warned



https://twitter.com/tabduchateau/sta...42076395323392
First time will be playing with RFID chips. !!
Can't wait to see !
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04-08-2014 , 01:51 PM
This thread silent for over 6 hours. That hasn't happened before.

What happened at the beginning of the Spring Open?

Did they address the Winter Open unfinished business? Did they explain the new chips? Did they tell the Final 27 what is happening?
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04-08-2014 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdadio48
80% might. you will never get 100% to agree on any resolution.
100% wouldn't agree on all 27 getting first place money, and everyone else refunded their buyin?
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04-08-2014 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Babypoker44
Announcement will come Monday or Tuesday. Not sure many people will be happy, but it is what it is. It was an F'd up situation for everyone involved. As one of the remaining 27 players, I'll take what they offer because other options are limited! The poker group at borgata are good people. The management of the borgata are running a business. And the cold hard facts are we are not that important in the grand scheme. I am just ready to move on and move away from this. I hope everyone else makes peace with the decision!! Good luck to everyone!!
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04-08-2014 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wiper
100% wouldn't agree on all 27 getting first place money, and everyone else refunded their buyin?
100% THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN
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04-08-2014 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetlag
100% THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN
well duh.

I was just pointing out that there IS a scenario where 100% of the players would good with it.
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04-08-2014 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PALLADINN
This thread silent for over 6 hours. That hasn't happened before.

What happened at the beginning of the Spring Open?

Did they address the Winter Open unfinished business? Did they explain the new chips? Did they tell the Final 27 what is happening?
no news. someone claimed to know there was going to be an NJE resolution today but it turned out to be a big steaming pile of horsecrap. they should shut this thread down. but until they do....

any chance they fail to make the 1 million guarantee for event 1? i say no. they might not kill the guarantee as they usually do but i think business will go on as normal there and they'll get 2000 runners.
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04-08-2014 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
First time will be playing with RFID chips. !!
Can't wait to see !
I keep hearing RFID Chips. Can anyone who actually knows how these work explain to me how RFID chips will help in poker tournaments? Currently very few casinos utilize these and only utilize them on higher denomination chips where the casino has the potential to be impacted the most. Not aware of any tables equipped to decipher between chips with RFID versus chips without. Current technology only allows detection of chips with RFID for the purpose of tracking player action and for validation of chips at cashiers stations where cash is being paid out. I am unaware of any technology that allows for detection of a pile of chips that can determine if a chip with non RFID (counterfeit) is placed on the table.
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04-08-2014 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pninwin
no news. someone claimed to know there was going to be an NJE resolution today but it turned out to be a big steaming pile of horsecrap. they should shut this thread down. but until they do....

any chance they fail to make the 1 million guarantee for event 1? i say no. they might not kill the guarantee as they usually do but i think business will go on as normal there and they'll get 2000 runners.
358 runners for day 1A. Kind of a low #
But day 1A is always less popular day.
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04-08-2014 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wiper
100% wouldn't agree on all 27 getting first place money, and everyone else refunded their buyin?
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Originally Posted by wiper
well duh.

I was just pointing out that there IS a scenario where 100% of the players would good with it.
wow bro youre so smart. I bet if borgata gave each of the final 27 40m each no one would say no either.
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04-08-2014 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by riverph7
358 runners for day 1A. Kind of a low #
But day 1A is always less popular day.
who would want to enter an mtt thinking they might not get paid like the guys who were in event 1 of their winter open? they havent been taken care of yet so why would anyone in their right mind go there when there are of plenty of other options where they know they will be paid and not have to be waiting 3+ months and poorly updated?
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04-08-2014 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdadio48
who would want to enter an mtt thinking they might not get paid like the guys who were in event 1 of their winter open? they havent been taken care of yet so why would anyone in their right mind go there when there are of plenty of other options where they know they will be paid and not have to be waiting 3+ months and poorly updated?
degens gonna degen
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04-08-2014 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdadio48
who would want to enter an mtt thinking they might not get paid like the guys who were in event 1 of their winter open? they havent been taken care of yet so why would anyone in their right mind go there when there are of plenty of other options where they know they will be paid and not have to be waiting 3+ months and poorly updated?
apparently at least 358 people would on day 1a alone. I'm not worried one bit. I don't fault Borgata in the 1st place and they have taken measures to assure this can't happen again. It could of happened at any casino.
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04-08-2014 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdadio48
who would want to enter an mtt thinking they might not get paid like the guys who were in event 1 of their winter open? they havent been taken care of yet so why would anyone in their right mind go there when there are of plenty of other options where they know they will be paid and not have to be waiting 3+ months and poorly updated?
Why are blaming Borgata for the slow resolution of this problem? They are legally barred from acting by the DGE, which hasn't yet made a ruling. Shame on the DGE, in my opinion, for being so slow.

The rest of the last tournament series ran ok, and everyone who won money in those events got paid, didn't they?

So why distrust the Borgata?

Lee
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04-08-2014 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wiper
100% wouldn't agree on all 27 getting first place money, and everyone else refunded their buyin?
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Originally Posted by Jetlag
100% THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN
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Originally Posted by wiper
well duh.

I was just pointing out that there IS a scenario where 100% of the players would good with it.
100% of the players would not be good with it.

I finished in 398th place. I cashed, but I would not be happy with a refund of $560 along with 398th place prize money.

If the top 27 are all getting paid 1st place money, I want to be paid 1st place money. Everyone who cashed should be paid 1st place money. Actually, everyone who played in the tournament should be paid 1st place money. Lusardi should be paid 1st place money

Spoiler:
I did not finish in 398th place in the event. I did not enter this event.
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