Sounds like you're describing your own posts.

Also still waiting to hear why someone who played day 1B but never sat with lusardi is any different than someone who played 1A or 1C?

Exactly

i heard (im not sure if reliable sources) that they are going to do an even chop. fine with me, i can live with that.
im not going to the spring open the summer open or whatever open they have until this is resolved. GL

Even chop will never fly. No way all 27 would accept that.

Unless if the news comes out from NJDGE or Borgata ,
every other source = wishful thinking

Oops, apologies for the misunderstanding... I was only referring to those who busted out before Lusardi entered the fake chips. I thought I made that clear but perhaps I did not. Busted out.

Let's suppose I played on Day 1A. And just for the sake of this hypothetical, suppose I busted out in a nasty cooler in the first level. I stand up, gather my stuff, say some goodbyes to friends in the room, and exit the room. I get back on the road and head home. Two days later, on Day 1C, Lusardi begins his activities.

You're right: I don't see how in this situation I am was affected by what happened in this tournament two days later. (Not sure if that has to do with pot odds or a lack of understanding of math.) My tournament played out the same way as it would have had Lusardi played on the level, correct?

Agree with this, too. My previous post (#3848) was predicated on the assumption that it could be proven that Lusardi acted alone. Again, apologies for the confusion -- I thought I stated that, too. If there is any chance Lusardi had accomplices, you can outright ignore my statement that the Day 1A bustouts are unaffected.

Aaah, that's the answer I missed. I see it now. Sorry for my recent derails, and carry on. Good luck to everyone still awaiting resolution.

That such a situation has never happened before seems precisely why it could become a precedent. Maybe not a "dangerous" one, but certainly one that initiates some new tourney practices, some of which have been mentioned many times in here (e.g. heightened security measures, auditing day-end chip totals, etc.).

Amen. This can/should still be a useful discussion thread for both those directly involved and those (like me) who are merely interested parties. Let's not get it locked up because a few people can't/won't refrain from ad hominem attacks.

romors floating around Borgata this morning include:
"some sort of refunds coming"
"final 27 to get screwed"
"final 27 even chop"
"Lusardi not in jail"

and of course everybody has a "reliable source" haha so basically nobody has a clue yet...

Offender Name: CHRISTIAN LUSARDI
Offender ID:0100222778
Date of Birth:12/16/1971
Age: 42
Race: White
Gender: Male

Custody Status: In Custody
Location of Offender: Atlantic County Jail

You guys still don't get it. The event was CANCELLED. That means refunds for all entrants. The final 27 will not get anything more than someone who busted out on the first level of day 1a. Maybe the Borgata can do some type of free roll or comp of some sort for the final 27. However, since the event was CANCELLED, there cannot be any chop or extra payout for the final 27. Much like a misdeal where the hand. "Never happened ", the tourney was cancelled and. "Never happened". Not saying it 's fair, because the final 27 are getting screwed. But since the event was cancelled, not seeing how a chop can logically occur.

No counterfeit Benjamins to bail himself out.

like I said...rumors

Maybe they will have a choice of accepting it, or not accepting it.

"Would you like your cash?"

"No. Thank you."

"Okay. Next."

You are right. I do not get it.

Each of the final 27 will get a refund of their buy-ins, and everyone else who cashed will have received more than each of the final 27. Right?

Or are you trying to say that everyone who has already cashed will have to return their payouts that are in excess of $560 each?

I still do not get it. Or, maybe, you do not get it.

yup

No news is bad news!!

A friend just registered for tomorrow's event 1 at the Borgata and had to sign
A release indemnifying the Borgata of everything from cheating to weather or not they liked there breakfast. Sounded like they absolve themselves of any financial liability in future events. This makes me think they have taken a hit in the coming decision.

To be fair, Borgata doesn't have any control over the weather.

wishful thinking....they aren't taking a hit. the prizepool will be paid out somehow, nothing more...

Finally, a semi-interesting piece of information! However this prob has to do more with the pending lawsuit than the coming decision. I would image that even after the decision from NJDGE is passed down, Borgata will still have to fight or settle the lawsuit separately. This waiver prevents that from happening again, since future litigants will have no case after they sign such a waiver.

80% might. you will never get 100% to agree on any resolution.

What makes you so certain?

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JMO

i dont get it either,450-28th get paid and 27th-1st get a refund... great logic, very intelligent.