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08-11-2010 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by heater
This thread is far far far from the second most popular on 2p2. What popularity it does have only exists because we enjoy mocking Real Deal and it's loyal follower(s).
FYP
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08-11-2010 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
Wtf? My $50 would not exactly be going very far if you guys changed it again already. Unfair!!!!!!!!
Well, go pay fidy for a hand audit on RD. Then come back and tell us what a Good Deal you got here
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08-11-2010 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by L0stInADream
Lol, this always makes me laugh. As soon as people disagree with the majority of 2+2 they are a shill. Please grow up fellas.

I play on many sites and networks and personally I like it so what does it matter, it ain't my favourite... I prefer pokerstars, pkr, ftp and 888poker (since update) etc... But wait... I like realdealpoker so I must be a shill... no wait I prefer pokerstars, pkr, ftp and 888poker.... so i must be a shill for them... wait no... oh god im confused... maybe im a shill for every poker room i like... yeh tht makes sense.

To make some of you feel better i dont like microgaming or UB :P (well there amongst some of the rooms i dont like)
It's not about liking odd networks or disagreeing with 2+2.
My favourite networks were unusual ones such as wpex, gamesgrid, ongame, skypoker, entraction, ipn and paradisebet(or whatever it was).

The problem is the claim that he made 4500 from 50NL on the site in 6 weeks. I don't believe him...
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08-11-2010 , 12:46 PM
LOL @ the title change!

Juk
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08-11-2010 , 12:57 PM
"The problem is the claim that he made 4500 from 50NL on the site in 6 weeks. I don't believe him..."

I doubt that $4500 has been waged in total in the site's existance to date.
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08-11-2010 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rakemeplz
"The problem is the claim that he made 4500 from 50NL on the site in 6 weeks. I don't believe him..."

I doubt that $4500 has been waged in total in the site's existance to date.
if they were raking that many pots they'd be able to afford an actual marketing campaign instead of a prop-army of gimmick accounts.
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08-11-2010 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bobjava
Sure the site has liquidity issues, but to say there is no interest from poker players in using real cards to play online is absurd. This is the second most popular thread on 2+2... Why, because it's good fun to wind up rigtards when there's nothing else to do.
fyp.

Juk
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08-11-2010 , 09:57 PM
Seems to me from reading the thread that the other poker networks are paying people to come on here and talk down real deal. I don't play there but i will when there are a few more thousand players.
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08-11-2010 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JONJO THE MISER
I don't play there but i will when there are a few more thousand players.
More thousands? In four months I don't think they have broken 100 logged in players yet.

Edit: at this moment there are 4 players.

http://www.realdealpoker.com/goto/19...ed.flashclient
(just click cancel when login comes up, and you can view the lobby)

Last edited by spadebidder; 08-11-2010 at 10:48 PM.
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08-11-2010 , 10:58 PM
I didn't realize they had a flash poker client. I remember the first (and last) time I saw a flash poker client.
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08-11-2010 , 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JONJO THE MISER
Seems to me from reading the thread that the other poker networks are paying people to come on here and talk down real deal.
More like Realdeal would have to pay people a lot of money to play there.
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08-11-2010 , 11:59 PM
Why would the other sites pay people to do that when so many are obviously interested in making fun of them for free?

However, if people truly are getting paid to do that then LOL at me for missing out. Would totally jump on that extra income. Any ideas on who to contact to get in on this sweet gig?
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08-12-2010 , 12:05 AM
Really, where do I sign up for the Shill Deal? I bet Stars and Tilt are rea;;y missing the 14 players that Real Deal has. Their Poker Scout graph must be something like a nose dive On the shill program, do I get ffps, cash or T$?
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08-12-2010 , 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by HeavyTrev
I didn't realize they had a flash poker client. I remember the first (and last) time I saw a flash poker client.
Yeah I know. But a lot of sites actually have one as an alternative to installing software. They have an exe too.
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08-12-2010 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Markusgc
there are better ways you could make me feel better.
That kinda sounds dirty
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08-12-2010 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ahosang
It's not about liking odd networks or disagreeing with 2+2.
My favourite networks were unusual ones such as wpex, gamesgrid, ongame, skypoker, entraction, ipn and paradisebet(or whatever it was).

The problem is the claim that he made 4500 from 50NL on the site in 6 weeks. I don't believe him...
Yeah this is fair enuf.... prob unlikely, but there is one player on the network tht seems to be running/playing well... and the players are very weak... might be a heater... but might be bull, but yeh fair comments
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08-12-2010 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by d0nk3y
More like Realdeal would have to pay people a lot of money to play there.
They kinda are atm
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08-12-2010 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Nutz?
Really, where do I sign up for the Shill Deal? I bet Stars and Tilt are rea;;y missing the 14 players that Real Deal has. Their Poker Scout graph must be something like a nose dive On the shill program, do I get ffps, cash or T$?
Its on there web page.. same as for stars and ftp.... thts where i signed up for all 3
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08-12-2010 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by L0stInADream
Lol, this always makes me laugh. As soon as people disagree with the majority of 2+2 they are a shill. Please grow up fellas.

I play on many sites and networks and personally I like it so what does it matter, it ain't my favourite... I prefer pokerstars, pkr, ftp and 888poker (since update) etc... But wait... I like realdealpoker so I must be a shill... no wait I prefer pokerstars, pkr, ftp and 888poker.... so i must be a shill for them... wait no... oh god im confused... maybe im a shill for every poker room i like... yeh tht makes sense.

To make some of you feel better i dont like microgaming or UB :P (well there amongst some of the rooms i dont like)
Reread the post he quoted. The guy is almost certainly a shill. He lied about how much he won there as an example of the soft games. However the games are not that soft. How do we know? Because the games he claimed he was beating for a ******edly impossible winrate barely exist at all...
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08-12-2010 , 07:25 PM
Isn't Russ Hamilton signed with RD?
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08-18-2010 , 12:18 PM
Gene's pissed.

http://pokerscout.com/UntrackedSiteD...lDealPoker.com

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Rating: 1 / 10
By: Anonymous
Date: Wednesday, August 04, 2010
Title: Real Deal is Rigged 5 out of 7 readers found this review helpful

****Please note that most of the positive reviews regarding this site were written by employee's of Real Deal Poker ****

There are no players on this site. If you want to find a game for real money this is not the place.

The 'real deal' shuffle they are trying to use as a 'safer' method of shuffling is NO DIFFERENT than a regular RNG that every poker site uses

There is more information available about real deal poker in the twoplustwo forums here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...-poker-687733/

Real Deal employee's also post in twoplustwo but get caught quite a lot since Real Deal doesn't really offer anything new or advantageous to poker players.

You can also view the real deal forums to see what kind of weirdos play at this site:

http://www.realdealpokerforums.com/forum.php

/lolriggaments
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Ed. note: A RealDealPoker representative responds to this review as follows:
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I would like to correct some false and erroneous remarks included in the above post:

1. The positive postings made about our site are not from employees but are in fact from players that have played at our site since it opened. Making false statements about these individuals being employees of our site is irresponsible and malicious.

2. Referring players to another forum whose agenda is questionable at best is also irresponsible and malicious and one should question the real motives of those making these posts on this site which is supposes to be a review of players who have actually played at the sites.

3. The statements about our systems being no different than a regular RNG are also false and misleading and all one needs to do is check the Randomness certification by ITech Labs http://www.realdealpoker.com/en.inte...ness-certified to find the following:

“No pseudo random number generators (PRNGs) are used in the card shuffling and dealing system.

Physical decks of cards are shuffled multiple times for each deal.

Audit trails are maintained for all aspects of the card shuffling and dealing system.

”While it is true that we do not have the quantity of games that we wish were available to players visiting our site, the players that do come and play do so on a regular basis, they enjoy their experience and we have begun to grow and now have double and triple the available games that were running only two weeks ago.

WE are not part of a network, we are a stand alone site and we knew it would be a slow process to gain liquidity. It did not stop us from our determination to offer an alternative to RNG based sites and I would like anyone to tell me why you would not want to play with a real deck of cards.

Last time I checked, it was still the preferred method at the WSOP. If it is good enough for them, it is good enough for us.

Truthfully Submitted,
Gene Gioia
Founder of RealDealPoker.com
Architect of the Cut N Shuffle and Game Check Systems
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08-18-2010 , 01:11 PM
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“No pseudo random number generators (PRNGs) are used in the card shuffling and dealing system.
Technically true but misleading. There is no random number generator in the shuffling and dealing of the real decks of cards. However, after scanning those cards they use time stamps as a pseudo random number generator to pick a fixed algorithm to rearrange the deck. I'm sure Gene would rather leave that part out though.

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Physical decks of cards are shuffled multiple times for each deal.
That's at least misleading if not a flat out lie. Physical decks are not used for each deal on the site. If he means each deal but the shuffling machines then that's intentionally misleading.

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Audit trails are maintained for all aspects of the card shuffling and dealing system.
Gene really doesn't seem to realize that this is of very minuscule value.

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WE are not part of a network, we are a stand alone site and we knew it would be a slow process to gain liquidity. It did not stop us from our determination to offer an alternative to RNG based sites and I would like anyone to tell me why you would not want to play with a real deck of cards.

Last time I checked, it was still the preferred method at the WSOP. If it is good enough for them, it is good enough for us.
Hmmm the WSOP also uses human dealers. If it's good enough for them surely it's good enough for RealDeal Poker. I assume they're working out a business plan to trash the shuffling machines and get some human dealers in there post hast.


Oh but my intentions are questionable. Let me clear it up. I intend to inform and entertain.
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08-18-2010 , 01:14 PM
Seems like the last thing Real Deal needt to put in place, is Real Players. Then they will be well on their way!!
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08-18-2010 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Gene
I would like anyone to tell me why you would not want to play with a real deck of cards.
It's not that we wouldn't like to play with real cards, or wouldn't even want to play with ******s that have a genuine preference. It's just that we'd want to play some someone. That's the part of the equation which is missing.

If Gene really thinks no one is playing on Real Deal because of mean old 2+2r's then he should ask himself why he's gotten such a cold reception.

Could it be the way his unofficial spokesperson, Stephen Meares, presented himself and RealDeal? Or maybe the way Gene himself douched it up when asked questions oh-so-long ago? Possibly the fact that it took nearly a year to get going after so much shilling has shaken the faith of potential players? Perhaps the tool who runs the RealDeal Forums, which Gene claims he has no control over, has lowered the fever of Rigg Tards (TM) to play with real cards.

If Gene were to just come out and say "Hey, maybe we got off on the wrong foot. What can I do to turn this around?" he might have a chance. If he's not willing to try that, I doubt he's gonna be too successful. A guy who has a vendetta against online poker probably doesn't really know how to run an online poker site, ya know?
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08-18-2010 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Markusgc
If Gene were to just come out and say "Hey, maybe we got off on the wrong foot. What can I do to turn this around?" he might have a chance. If he's not willing to try that, I doubt he's gonna be too successful.
He also needs to give an honest description of the game they offer, and stop saying it is dealt from a real deck of cards "just like a live game". They are providing a different kind of computer deal that is seeded from real cards. They originally did set out to deal from a real deck, until mechanical reality nixed that idea, and so now the deck is generated by a computer. Just using a different method than a traditional RNG.
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