ffs though.....i wish i knew how to say this nicely but in all honesty if you can't recognize at first glance what a complete ****ing abortion real deal is there may be no hope for you lololol

plz don't take that personally j/k

I lol'd

EDIT: only now read other posts in this thread/on this page, so I don't want Mr.Kavilla to think I'm trolling him or anything. I actually just thought the guys quote was funny even without context.

Me too buddy, trust me

It never gets any easier, well momentarily, but that's only the set up to cut you down again.

edit: was just reading some of your thread that was posted. Just want you to know that my above statement can seem true. Even though I'm running bad now I take a bit of confort knowing I'm not running as bad as I did about months ago. Now THAT was a ****in earth shaker. Imagine being 36 with no college education/trade, pretty much given most of your life to this stupid game, HAVING to pay your bills from it, and not being able to win no matter what you do. As long as I've played, I never even imagined I would run that bad. I've obv ran bad before, it's part of the game. That was not from this world RB. I think I even sought out Spade Bidder, to help me look at hands. Then "poof" it was over.

There came a point when I realized it didn't matter what I did, I simply could not win if my hands did not hold up. Completely powerless, with bills piling up. Now that's a pretty feeling. No offense, but what you are going through is just the beginning. I would advise you to quit the game and go bang some 20 yr olds or something before you wind up affecting your health too much from the self induced stress, and sometimes not self induced. If you are getting this worked up at this early stage, then again it's probably best to just say meh..forget it.

lol thanks....whats funny is that the curse was lifted today

i mean like i said in that thread, i know better; i know its not rigged. however, it was really messing with my head when i was seemingly losing every single hand every single session, every single day. of course ive had downswings before, but it was like 3 weeks of slowly losing several buy ins a day....this was just insane, and i lost like 4 buy ins as soon as i would sit down(i know i ended up tilting a decent number away too). i wasnt card dead at all thats the other thing...all of my other downswings, i was kind of card dead, missing sets/draws and just getting 2nd best hands alot, etc.

this was different(man i'm glad i can say was), I was getting tons of great hands but getting coolered left and right or miracle rivers for my opponents. hence why i made that thread, because after a day or two of this, it was clearly affecting my play and more importantly my mind.

i dunno man i just want this so bad, i cant give up. i've finally found something i'm good at and something i enjoy, i'm gonna give it my absolute best before throwing in the towel. ive been through ALOT worse than losing at poker.

Yeah, I understand what you're saying to a certain extent. But at the same time, even now your perception of that thread and mine are quite a bit different. I don't think your treatment was nearly as bad as you perceived either then or now, and you fed right into it which made everything worse. Not that it excuses a few of the troll posts in there; I think if it hadn't deteriorated into a hopeless mess, some of those posts might have been deleted.

And everyone's seen so many "rigged" threads here and in BQ, they are often instantly treated with much disdain (even when they're not supposed to be about poker being rigged), perhaps more so than they should be sometimes.

If you find you're getting this sort of treatment every single time, perhaps you have to look within a little bit. I see lots of new people post here, some with some pretty basic questions, and get treated pretty well. Or if they get a little abuse in with some advice, they ignore the former and take the latter.

So while I'm not familiar enough with all of your posting history, I'm still pretty confident that while some may not have treated you as well as they should, you could probably find a few ways to change your own behaviour to improve your experience here.

Good luck.

i admit this is solid advice and what i need to do more often...

RDP forum is dead. Can RDP site be far behind ?? Seems the paranoid players who complained all their losses were due to rigged RNG's found the matrix used on RDP to be cheating them also. LOL Seriously Tom O'Dywer and Chris Naish spent their own money and time trying to promote RDP. I would warn any players who have money at thisw site to get it out NOW, And I do mean all 17 players there.

nooooo it can't die, what will the 2p2 internet poker forum talk about all day?!

I know we all take the micky out of the site quite mercilessly but it's always sad when people have put a lot of effort into something to see it fail.

Even if it was a stupid idea.

That was made worse by implementing it so terribly.

I wonder if a site could make a go of it by using some of the simpler ideas here. Allow players to cut the deck, and concentrate on different ways to assure the riggies. I think there could be a market there, but RDP didn't find a way to tap into it.

Of course targeting to that market may be doomed by the simple fact that once they realize their results don't change, they move on.

The RDP forum was full of comments about RDP being rigged too. Seemed the posters wanted an individual deck shuffled and then offered up for a cut. LOL
RDP proved there as none so blind as they who will not see.

I still stick by my thought that they should of licensed the idea to someone instead of opening an independent site.

may I suggest this treasure?

$20 to $1785 over the last 1 and 1/2 years 159% ROI 16% ITM 19, out of 1.5 mil 7 star rating
Or maybe go the more traditional route of asking the players what they'd like?

For some reason, Gene thought this was the proper approach to attract potential customers:

Well, if there is only 2 or 3 tables going, why not? Better than no tables. I think they had a good idea actually. And probably could have drawn in a lot of new money. But catering to Rigtards and spouting off on internet forums, where most of the posters are more intelligent than you are, is not the way to implement the idea.

u really do think ur the cat's meow, dont u.

You are becoming tiresome. Kavilla.

It's rigged, whatever, that's the reason you are a loser.

We get it. No reason to spam us incessantly with it.

who mixes old Great Gatsby-esque cliches with idiotic text-style typing?

does it really bother you that much when someone types U instead?

I'm just never sure why you guys bring ancient Sumerian cities into the conversation.

To all my (friends?) at TwoPlusTwo. I have taken your jabs, your barbs, your insults, and your ridicule. That is your right to say what you feel. I am only here for one purpose and that is the above quote. I would like to clear up one thing and protest another. Real Deal Poker did not put up the Forum nor did we take it down. It is down because it's owners decided to take it down. That was the clear up piece.

Finally, whether RealDealPoker dies or not, I take exception to the warning above and this is why. From the day we opened, regardless of what happened with our Poker Room, I gave my personal guarantee that "Players money would be secure". That was the case when we opened, that is the case today. For someone to indicate otherwise is irresponsible and I consider it an attack on my character. If you think you are justified in making this warning, simply call the Gambling Supervision Control Board on the Isle of Man and ask them if player funds are in jeopardy. They will verify my statement to be true, the player funds are secure. You are free to express yourselves however you feel and I would certainly not want that to change, but irresponsible and inaccurate warnings such as the one above I will not lay down and take. As a licensed CPA, a former U.S. Marine who served in Viet Nam at the age of 19, and a man of my word, I have a history of serving both my profession and my country with honor and dignity and I will not accept anyone questioning or assassinating either by making a warning with absolutely no substance in fact. You guys pride yourselves on being smart enough to tell it like you see it, does that mean you have no responsibility for what you say? Authority without responsibility, very commonplace today. I gave my word on the security of players funds and I have kept it. To post such a warning, with no basis in fact, is bull**** and you should realize that.

Thank you for the time and Good Fortune to you all.

Gene Gioia

The pour (sic), tired, huddled massed of Real Deal Poker no longer have a forum?

Gene, although a critic of your site from day one, I have little doubt that your games are fair and that players' money is safe there. There's no reason to believe otherwise. I'd be surprised if too many of the more intelligent posters here felt any differently.

That doesn't change my opinion of your site, the way it has been marketed, and the way your strongest supporters have behaved. But that's an entirely different discussion.

damn, I was just going to fix that in hopes no one had noticed!

typing "u" to save .7 seconds is a sign of immaturity and below-average intelligence; it's a symptom of a condition which has turned you into one of the least like posters on this site.

another symptom of your childish behavior is reporting posts where anyone says anything you perceive as slightly negative towards you. unfortunately, every post of yours seems to elicit a response of that nature. please stop being such a tattle-tail waste-of-time.

finally, the irony of you calling me (or anyone else) a "troll" is laughable. are you this popular everywhere you go?