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07-17-2010 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
merge with rigged thread please
this please!!!
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07-17-2010 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
merge with rigged thread please
Looks like they did.
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07-17-2010 , 01:24 PM
Guess there arent enough riggies in the world for their site to prosper
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07-17-2010 , 02:46 PM
Does this site have real money games going? Is it still virtually dead?

I guess my questions may as well be the sound of trees falling in the forest with no one to hear them.
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07-17-2010 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rakemeplz
Does this site have real money games going? Is it still virtually dead?

I guess my questions may as well be the sound of trees falling in the forest with no one to hear them.
One hand is clapping for Real Deal.
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07-17-2010 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by spadebidder
One hand is clapping for Real Deal.
Which is eerily similar to the sound of real cards being dealt on the internet.
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07-17-2010 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AdamAce
This site is up and running but the traffic is low as it is very early days, but I sincerely hope it generates enough player traffic quickly enough to survive and that requires you.. with Evander Holyfield signed up as a celebrity player it shows they mean business, and I hope they get it.

Yeah they call the early days a 'soft launch' a soft launch is something that has been announced for monthls delayed at least once, and spammed countless times. The servers crashed the first or second day and were down for at least 3 or 4 days.

Last but not least Evander Holyfield is busto he would endorse pretty much anything I'd imagine.

Oh and BTW nice to hear from you again Gene.
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07-18-2010 , 12:52 AM
Just so you know, I have not gone anywhere and I am just getting warmed up. We have certainly had our share of challenges and issues but we have known all along what a difficult and uphill challenge we are faced with. But we also know we have the systems that are superior to anything in existence today and starting this week,we are going to prove it. Watch for a webcast on Thursday entitled "The Matrix Revealed" and then decide for yourselves.

Gene Gioia
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07-18-2010 , 12:57 AM
We have decided Gene, the last time you spammed us here. What's the problem? Are you looking for some trolls to come to your piece of crap forum run by that Jack ass tom, and give him something to do?
Tell us how you choose which matrix each table gets. Or are your lawyers still telling you not to?
Answer or GTFO.
Poast reported.
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07-18-2010 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Nutz?
We have decided Gene, the last time you spammed us here. What's the problem? Are you looking for some trolls to come to your piece of crap forum run by that Jack ass tom, and give him something to do?
Tell us how you choose which matrix each table gets. Or are your lawyers still telling you not to?
Answer or GTFO.
Poast reported.
That is exactly what we are going to show in the webcast. And by the way, I have no control over Tom's forum (it is not mine) and as we all know it is a free country and people can say and do whatever they want to and Tom certainly does that. I am going to provide all the information you are looking for and only ask that you decide for yourselves. If you cannot see how this provides games that can be trusted without any reservation, I would certainly like to see you prove it. And you will have that opportunity as well. This is a very well thought out system to insure the integrity of each and every game dealt and I challenge anyone to find a way to manipulate a game in any fashion. (internally or externally). Anyone who has played online for any length of time should know why it is important to have a game that can gives this assurance. That is all we set out to do and that is what we have done. We have given players that option. It is an online game using real decks of cards. I am going to explain exactly how it works so you can make an informed decision for yourselves.
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07-18-2010 , 02:40 AM
lmfao
ya, ya, ya
I am not smart enough to prove anything. But your story has many holes, I am smart enough to see that. How about don't come in here again until you answer the question? This is as old as you.
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07-18-2010 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RealDealFDR
Just so you know, I have not gone anywhere and I am just getting warmed up. We have certainly had our share of challenges and issues but we have known all along what a difficult and uphill challenge we are faced with. But we also know we have the systems that are superior to anything in existence today and starting this week,we are going to prove it. Watch for a webcast on Thursday entitled "The Matrix Revealed" and then decide for yourselves.

Gene Gioia
umm, keep fighting the good fight, Gene?
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07-18-2010 , 04:38 AM
no one cares if you deal a fair game and can prove it because we believe the other sites do too... next
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07-18-2010 , 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by RealDealFDR
That is exactly what we are going to show in the webcast. And by the way, I have no control over Tom's forum (it is not mine) and as we all know it is a free country and people can say and do whatever they want to and Tom certainly does that. I am going to provide all the information you are looking for and only ask that you decide for yourselves. If you cannot see how this provides games that can be trusted without any reservation, I would certainly like to see you prove it. And you will have that opportunity as well. This is a very well thought out system to insure the integrity of each and every game dealt and I challenge anyone to find a way to manipulate a game in any fashion. (internally or externally). Anyone who has played online for any length of time should know why it is important to have a game that can gives this assurance. That is all we set out to do and that is what we have done. We have given players that option. It is an online game using real decks of cards. I am going to explain exactly how it works so you can make an informed decision for yourselves.
You imply that something is wrong with other sites' deals. If that were the case, then your invention would actually mean something to the poker community.

The reality of the situation is, when it comes to the deal, for all intents and purposes:

RealDeal: fair
FTP: fair
PokerStars: fair
Cereus: fair
Every other significant modern site: fair

Finding a creative way to deal cards that come out just as random as all the other sites is NOT enough to draw customers. Sure, you can try and convince the poker population that the above is somehow false (despite absolutely no evidence of that) and a handful of people may play at RealDeal.

And as for Tom and "his forum", surely you realize that regardless of who owns the forum, that forum represents your company. It has your company's name in the URL, for God's sake and directly addresses your poker site. I don't care who owns it, it's representative of your business and it's run in amateur fashion.
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07-18-2010 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by subs
no one cares if you deal a fair game and can prove it because we believe the other sites do too... next
this

Who gives a **** how fair Real Deal is? It can't be "more fair," lol. If I can make more money there, I'll play there. Now go get 100k players on your site with more fish and give me rakeback.

kthxbye
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07-18-2010 , 09:20 AM
Gene,

Will you be archiving the highlights of the webcast on the RDP website? I doubt anyone will watch live, apart from psycho Tom.

Aside from that, I think it's very cheeky of you to come here after such a long silence and rather than answer questions, advertise a promotional video. If after Thursday's webcast you still don't answer 2+2's questions then you should be banned for unsolicited advertising.

P.S. A written/diagram guide to how the system works supplemented with answered questions would be 50x more useful than an archived webcast.
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07-18-2010 , 10:24 AM
This whole site feels like an April Fools joke / level of some kind, except the amount of money they have invested (and will lose) makes that seem fairly impractical unless the backers had no idea what the management would be like. If that is the case I guess the joke is on them.
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07-18-2010 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by subs
no one cares if you deal a fair game and can prove it because we believe the other sites do too... next
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Originally Posted by heater
this

Who gives a **** how fair Real Deal is? It can't be "more fair," lol. If I can make more money there, I'll play there. Now go get 100k players on your site with more fish and give me rakeback.

kthxbye
this

and this.
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07-18-2010 , 11:04 AM
Jesus, they didn't send shills back here did they? I mean obviously they're dumb but this dumb?
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07-18-2010 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
This whole site feels like an April Fools joke / level of some kind, except the amount of money they have invested (and will lose) makes that seem fairly impractical unless the backers had no idea what the management would be like. If that is the case I guess the joke is on them.
a simple google search of "gene goia real deal poker" would tell that tale. However, the types of folks who MIGHT invest in such a venture are likely scared of computers, thus their interest in the "real deal shuffle."
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07-18-2010 , 02:36 PM
RDP and their dopey shills must be from the school that advocates "there is no such thing as bad publicity". They are wrong.
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07-18-2010 , 03:38 PM
Their marketing is all over the place. First they put the Meares Patterns/Timing Manifesto on their site while claiming no connection to him, and in fact even challenging potential customers to prove otherwise.

Then they made claims a Poker Stars employee was maliciously slandering them, comepletely playing the no doubt fairly and slowly shuffled martyr card. Ironically, the accusation is false, but apparently they can't be bothered to remove the erroneous story from their web site.

Until this point, one could only assume their target audience is paranoid kooks, which apparently was influenced by the poll results in Official Poker is Rigged thread. Unfortunately, they're not clever enough to know most ofthe votes are cast my rigtard gimmicks and sarcastic shills. Newsflash, fellas: unless you're planning on allowing multi-accounters, your potential customer base is tiny and probably not capable of figuring out how to deposit.

Next up is an endorsement deal with boxing great Evander Holyfield. Finally they reach out to a higher class of clientele: prizefighting enthusiasts.

They follow-up this market diversification with another AstroTurf campaign featuring their forums which ban anyone not professing loyalty to Real Deal, but then deny any connection to the gentleman who runs the forums, which feature a private area reserved for none other than Gene himself. And instead of using this private playground - bearing both his business' and HIS own freakin' name - to build upon any goodwill which the champ might garner, he instead chooses to come here with some more surly boasts and hyping up his upcoming series of The Poker X-Files.

So, I get the impression they're trying to attract paranoid idiots and fans of the sweet science.

Maybe their next celebrity should be Chuck Lidell. I think his schedule has cleared up recently.

Too bad Gene didn't take a look at my resume when I offered it. I'm sure I could've focused on a more realistic and profitable group of players.
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07-18-2010 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AdamAce
it's not my first post. it's just my first post on 2+2 for a long time. I don't care about trolling posts. I want to get the opinion of real poker players not morons, and will ignore all morons. So I would like to ask the forum in general, are you in favour or not, of real cards versus rng dealing ? And why would you not be in favour of a site which is dealing cards fairly with complete visibility ?
Now that your thread has been merged with this one, I suggest you read it. You'll see the questions/criticisms many of us have about the site.
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07-19-2010 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by AdamAce
it's not my first post. it's just my first post on 2+2 for a long time. I don't care about trolling posts. I want to get the opinion of real poker players not morons, and will ignore all morons. So I would like to ask the forum in general, are you in favour or not, of real cards versus rng dealing ? And why would you not be in favour of a site which is dealing cards fairly with complete visibility ?
It doesn't matter how the cards are dealt, but how the deals are monitored. The questionable sites could shut the rigtards up instantly, if they would agree to true third-party testing.

With the current monitoring systems, I see statements to the effect: The "sample" we tested indicates a random sequence of cards, blah blah blah ... It reminds of the pot dealer who gives you a "sample" joint of killer weed to smoke, then sells you a bag of garbage.

So the real question is: Why won't the online poker rooms provide the players with real transparency? Because they don't have to. They're raking in millions with their current corrupt software, as the unaware continue to play there. They have no incentive to change.
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07-19-2010 , 10:52 AM
do you have any proof whatsoever of this?
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