orly? stars RNG isn't audited since 2003.

In general, the research in the field The stars RNG is a product of that, it wasn't made from scratch by two guys in their basement 6 years ago.

I see they have announced their slogan!

I don't think I trust any site that takes 6 freaking years to set up.

Now, now, be fair, they are just trying to get it right.

Plus, they have to get their shills in place.

I mean....they get this "real shuffle" idea and come up with whatever way to throw the cards in a drum and do this. Set up the site and go already. Why on earth is this taking them so long? It just seems strange and it makes me wonder if lazyness or lack of funding are issues. The offer to islidur for his own table could be viewed as a tactic to try to get some dough on their site (as if he would just deposit $3M with those guys just because they invited him...whatever).

I think the offer to isuldur is just their way of getting press without paying.Its not like they have him as a sponsored pro. Kind of like using shills on a poker forum rather then buying ads on it.

Realistically these people will discover the hard way that the "rigged" market is just not as big as they hope, and by 2010 the other reality is that the barriers to entry for a new room are immense compared to 2004-5 when they first developed the idea.

Who knows, maybe it would have done ok if it started several years ago. It will be dead in the water today just from a business point of view. The site's silly shilling history here will not help it much, even if it was all a form of gimmicky advertising for awareness.

Hey ClickClickShip,

The company shills have to discredit the Real Deal Poker site to make their crooked sites appear to be legit. In my opinion, this type of open audit system is the wave of the future in online poker. Currently it's like the old days in Vegas, when the mob ran the show and they rigged anything they wanted to and got away with it. Now the Nevada Gaming Commission can shine a flashlight as far up the casino's bungholes as they want to and make sure they are not scamming.

It might be awhile, but one day online poker rooms will be monitored this way, as well. Or at least a certain percentage of sites who agree to open audits of “the deal” in order to help players feel more secure that they are not being cheated. At that point, what morons will continue to play at the non-accredited online poker rooms? Then these con artists will be forced to become honest or go out of business.

Now watch, ClickClickShip, there will follow a barrage of negative and offensive comments about this post. That’s the dullard shills, who work for the corrupt owners, doing what they are paid to do: muck up legitimate dialog with their BS so they can try and keep more people from realizing the truth about online poker room cheating.

LOL thank you so much for reviving a RealDeal thread. These are the funniest things to follow.

So your "legitimate dialog" needs to include phrases like: "shills", "crooked sites", "bungholes", "morons", "con artists", "dullard shills", and "corrupt owners"?

Perhaps if you were objective with your dialog you'd be taken seriously.

Also, proof goes a long way.

Hey ClickClickShip,

Note the "insta-answer." Who sits around their computer all day long constantly monitoring online poker forums and always defending the sites against accusations immediately after something derogatory is posted? Why isn't this guy playing poker? Why does he even care if people say the sites are rigged?

You replied pretty quickly yourself there.

As for me, I'm bored at work. I'd love to be home playing poker but I'm not good enough to make a living at it. I care about you calling the sites rigged because you might scare away the few fish that I can actually beat.

Why are you so quick to answer? Why don't you want to provide proof with your claims?

Brilliant post.

Hits the nail squarely on the head on all counts.

A+

Would read again.

lol +1

Look at the original post and the responses to it. Thousands upon thousands of poker players are questioning the randomness of the deal at many online poker sites. Along comes a new site, Real Deal Poker, which claims it has a better way to ensure that the deal at their site is indeed random.

Now this wide-eyed young lad comes along asking other player’s opinions about the new site, and what does he get? Mostly one derogatory monkey-shill BS post after the next, such as: "RealDeal Poker, where rigtards can play with other rigtards." Then he asks: why all the hate? I’m letting him know that most of this is not real “hate” from actual online poker players. It is clearly a calculated diversion from weasel shills meant to stifle legitimate debate.

There are very few real online poker players who would not welcome real progress in the area of ensuring deal randomness in the online poker world. Why would anyone be against that? So my advice to ClickClikcShip is to not waste his time posting legitimate questions on any poker forum dealing with the issue of online poker room integrity. Don’t waste your time. When Real Deal Poker is up and running, do as you say you will: go try it out for yourself. And if you feel better about play there than on your current site, tell as many other players as you can. SPREAD THE WORD, BABY. SPREAD THE WORD!

I’ll see you there!

OP may have been treated unfairly but that doesn't alter the fact that RealDeal is a pointless waste of time.

I gather their slogan is going to be:

RealDeal: Run by ******s for ******s!!!

i've been playing an average of around 250 hands per day of hold em for the last 5 months.....it's going to make a refreshing "realistic" change to no longer get dealt aces "at least" 3/4 times per day "day in day out,week in week out,we all love getting dealt aces but to receive them "3 times more often" than their true odds(on a long term basis) is frankly a joke.

Please note this guy is from Leeds. Therefore he is not a true reflection on the intelligence of the rest of the UK.

There wasn't any hate. The posts were all joking around because RealDeal is considered a joke. They came up with an inefficient way to make a poker site. Their deal is also most likely less random than the random number generators used by the top online sites today.

The other issue is that there was a previous thread that very much appeared to be created and infested with RealDeal shills. I believe the thread was locked and some of the apparent shills were banned. That is not a good sign for the integrity of their site.

There's nothing wrong with poking some fun at a bad idea. The same people making the jokes will be in line to sign up if the site gets enough traffic from bad players. (if they can...I'm not 100% sure but I thought RealDeal was not US player friendly)

I think the main problem is that it is not online poker friendly.

lol sick bump Gordias. Can't wait to hear more about your pendulum theories too.

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In Snail Poker* you have the option to slow fold! It automatically puts you in the tank until the last second of your time bank then folds. After that, you immediately get to watch the rest of the hand play out. At the conclusion of the hand you're rewarded by waiting 2 minutes (unless that damn shuffling machine jams again) for the next hand to be dealt. Snail Poker is revolutionizing online poker. Be sure to get in on the action!

*patent pending

lol @ that ******ed hydraulic shuffler


To be fair I guess the games will be soft due to all the rigtards, however rigtards will be rigtards and if years of evidence hasn't convinced them online poker isn't fixed, I highly doubt some silly audit button will.


Plus I'm not sure on the security of my money there considering how much they'll be spending on maintaining the Dildonator Shuffler 3000

Security is top notch from what I've head. No worries there because they have put Stephen Meares on the case.

lol yes you have to be a rigtard to want to play with real cards.... Its obvious realdealpoker is gona be the nuts