Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > > >

Discussion of Poker Sites General discussion of online poker sites.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-07-2013, 03:41 PM   #2551
BeerBottlez
Pooh-Bah
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,908
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

I never had any issues until today when I played some zone poker hands and on the omaha table I couldn't see my cards probably 25% of the time so I'm forced to fold.

Please fix this asap.

It would also be nice to have a safety feature lets say I raise preflop and if I was to accidentally click fold after that it would move me to the next hand without even getting to see the flop if I click too quickly. That is bad and shouldn't let me fold at least not until someone puts in a re-raise since at this point I could win the pot preflop or see the flop committing no more chips in a spot I raised.
BeerBottlez is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 04:10 PM   #2552
TooSick
banned
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 48
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Bovada is just try to get the rake faster with this Zone.....reminders me of Full Tilt before Black Friday! US Legislation with shut u down!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TooSick is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 04:11 PM   #2553
Bodog_Ice
Deactivated rep account
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 514
Just so you guys are aware, clicking check fold will check your hand for you until someone bets. If it is folded around, you will win the pot.
Bodog_Ice is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 04:13 PM   #2554
Bodog_Ice
Deactivated rep account
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 514
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerBottlez View Post
I never had any issues until today when I played some zone poker hands and on the omaha table I couldn't see my cards probably 25% of the time so I'm forced to fold.

Please fix this asap.

It would also be nice to have a safety feature lets say I raise preflop and if I was to accidentally click fold after that it would move me to the next hand without even getting to see the flop if I click too quickly. That is bad and shouldn't let me fold at least not until someone puts in a re-raise since at this point I could win the pot preflop or see the flop committing no more chips in a spot I raised.
If you can take a screen shot and send it my way when you don't see any cards.. that would be a huge help.

I'll pass you suggestion, and the others, along.
Bodog_Ice is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 04:22 PM   #2555
rakeme
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
rakeme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 6,715
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodog_Ice View Post
Just so you guys are aware, clicking check fold will check your hand for you until someone bets. If it is folded around, you will win the pot.
Na, this isn't true. I've hit it before and it immediately folded my hand and moved me to a new table.
rakeme is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 04:48 PM   #2556
Bodog_Ice
Deactivated rep account
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 514
Yes, it moves you.. but it will check your hand at the previous table until there is a bet.
Bodog_Ice is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 04:52 PM   #2557
rakeme
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
rakeme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 6,715
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

So it brings you back to the game? I'm confused... Will it open a 2nd table up if the action gets back on you? Say I'm involved in a hand on a new table, wouldn't I risk timing out at the old one?
rakeme is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 05:00 PM   #2558
Bodog_Ice
Deactivated rep account
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 514
No. The system just checks for you until there is a bet, and then it will fold you.
Bodog_Ice is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 05:03 PM   #2559
rakeme
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
rakeme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 6,715
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Well I'm asking if it gets to us with no raises and we check, then the flop happens, how do we act on our hand if we are already at a new zone table? Will a 2nd table pop up?
rakeme is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 05:12 PM   #2560
formula72
veteran
 
formula72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,467
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

He saying that another table will not open up, all that will happen is your in auto-check and can no longer play the hand. If it is checked all the way down you can still win the hand without "being there".
formula72 is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 05:21 PM   #2561
Tropics
grinder
 
Tropics's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Behind a mouse
Posts: 526
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by TooSick View Post
Bovada is just try to get the rake faster with this Zone.....reminders me of Full Tilt before Black Friday! US Legislation with shut u down!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're absolutely clueless. I guess PokerStars will be shut down too now since they have their own form of zoom poker? The U.S. can't touch Bovada since all of their critical operations are done overseas and out of U.S. jurisdiction. Bovada even ran a commercial on the biggest radio station in Chicago when they were promoting seats to this years WSOP main event. Bovada isn't scared of the U.S. govt. and it's been that way for years.
You should also note that Full Tilt had lots of problems with payouts prior to black Friday and even with taking deposits. Bovada is having no such problems.
Tropics is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 05:22 PM   #2562
formula72
veteran
 
formula72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,467
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Online Veteran View Post
I understand what Bodog_Ice is saying, and I don't like the way they do it. If I click fast fold with 7 2 off, and the flop comes 222, obv I will want to go ahead and play the rest of the hand out. However, the way bodog does it now, I have already been moved to a different table and if somebody bets the min on the river then my hand will get folded. I don't like this method.
I don't understand why anybody would want to fast fold their big blind, its an -ev move. Are we in that much of a hurry or am I missing something here?
formula72 is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 05:23 PM   #2563
Tropics
grinder
 
Tropics's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Behind a mouse
Posts: 526
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerBottlez View Post
I never had any issues until today when I played some zone poker hands and on the omaha table I couldn't see my cards probably 25% of the time so I'm forced to fold.

Please fix this asap.

It would also be nice to have a safety feature lets say I raise preflop and if I was to accidentally click fold after that it would move me to the next hand without even getting to see the flop if I click too quickly. That is bad and shouldn't let me fold at least not until someone puts in a re-raise since at this point I could win the pot preflop or see the flop committing no more chips in a spot I raised.
Can't you see the description of your hand in the chat box? i.e. Ah Kh Jc 10s or whatever the hand is?
Tropics is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 05:26 PM   #2564
formula72
veteran
 
formula72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,467
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Online Veteran View Post
I understand what Bodog_Ice is saying, and I don't like the way they do it. If I click fast fold with 7 2 off, everyone limps, and the flop comes 222, obv I will want to go ahead and play the rest of the hand out. However, the way bodog does it now, I have already been moved to a different table. So if somebody bets the min on the river, then my hand will be folded even though I have quad deuces. I don't like this method.
Again I understand. But I don't understand why anybody would want to fast fold their big blind, its an -ev move. Are we in that much of a hurry or am I missing something here?
formula72 is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 05:27 PM   #2565
Online Veteran
Pooh-Bah
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 3,500
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodog_Ice View Post
Yes, it moves you.. but it will check your hand at the previous table until there is a bet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rakeme View Post
So it brings you back to the game? I'm confused... Will it open a 2nd table up if the action gets back on you? Say I'm involved in a hand on a new table, wouldn't I risk timing out at the old one?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodog_Ice View Post
No. The system just checks for you until there is a bet, and then it will fold you.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rakeme View Post
Well I'm asking if it gets to us with no raises and we check, then the flop happens, how do we act on our hand if we are already at a new zone table? Will a 2nd table pop up?
Quote:
Originally Posted by formula72 View Post
He saying that another table will not open up, all that will happen is your in auto-check and can no longer play the hand. If it is checked all the way down you can still win the hand without "being there".
I understand what Bodog_Ice is saying, and I don't like the way they do it. If I click fast fold with 7 2 off, everyone limps, and the flop comes 222, obv I will want to go ahead and play the rest of the hand out. However, the way bodog does it now, I have already been moved to a different table. So if somebody bets the min on the river, then my hand will be folded even though I have quad deuces. I don't like this method.
Online Veteran is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 05:30 PM   #2566
Online Veteran
Pooh-Bah
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 3,500
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by formula72 View Post
I don't understand why anybody would want to fast fold their big blind, its an -ev move. Are we in that much of a hurry or am I missing something here?
Quote:
Originally Posted by formula72 View Post
Again I understand. But I don't understand why anybody would want to fast fold their big blind, its an -ev move. Are we in that much of a hurry or am I missing something here?
Sorry for my edits, it messed up the order of all the posts. Anyway, I guess some of us are in a hurry, as we are playing Zone poker. Whether it is -EV or not, I am going to fold 7 2 off in the BB, but it shouldn't move me to another table until someone has raised or I have won the hand. Do you see my point?

Last edited by Online Veteran; 08-07-2013 at 06:00 PM.
Online Veteran is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 05:41 PM   #2567
formula72
veteran
 
formula72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,467
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Online Veteran View Post
Sorry for my edits, it messed up the order of all the post. Anyway, I guess some of us are in a hurry, as we are playing Zone poker. Whether it is -EV or not, I am going to fold 7 2 off in the BB, but it shouldn't move me to another table until someone has raised or I have won the hand. Do you see my point?
All bovada is doing is essentially letting players fold out of turn so they can play more hands, and since the players cant tell it makes a lot of sense to me. So In that sense no you shouldn't be able to play the hand if it happened to be checked around. You folded. Your point seems to be that you want an auto check and be able to play the hand in case something rare happens, well isn't that the same as just playing out the hand?
formula72 is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 05:53 PM   #2568
BeerBottlez
Pooh-Bah
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,908
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tropics View Post
Can't you see the description of your hand in the chat box? i.e. Ah Kh Jc 10s or whatever the hand is?
No, I can't
BeerBottlez is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 05:59 PM   #2569
Online Veteran
Pooh-Bah
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 3,500
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by formula72 View Post
All bovada is doing is essentially letting players fold out of turn so they can play more hands, and since the players cant tell it makes a lot of sense to me. So In that sense no you shouldn't be able to play the hand if it happened to be checked around. You folded. Your point seems to be that you want an auto check and be able to play the hand in case something rare happens, well isn't that the same as just playing out the hand?
Please correct me if I am wrong, but didn't FTP do it the way I am describing?
Online Veteran is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 06:07 PM   #2570
formula72
veteran
 
formula72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,467
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Online Veteran View Post
Please correct me if I am wrong, but didn't FTP do it the way I am describing?
Yes but it is nearly the same as playing the hand through. Only difference is with full tilt they saved you the trouble of having to make that extra click when someone raised.

Bovada believes its better for them to let the player muck out of turn and get right on to the next hand quicker instead of the "auto muck when facing action" method that ftp uses. I prefer ftp's method because I am never mucking my BB like that and it saves me an extra "search and click" in Rush as apposed to Zone.

Though I do see why Bovada would prefer the other way. Porbably up to 5% more hands out.
formula72 is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 06:14 PM   #2571
Online Veteran
Pooh-Bah
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 3,500
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by formula72 View Post
Yes but it is nearly the same as playing the hand through. Only difference is with full tilt they saved you the trouble of having to make that extra click when someone raised.

Bovada believes its better for them to let the player muck out of turn and get right on to the next hand quicker instead of the "auto muck when facing action" method that ftp uses. I prefer ftp's method because I am never mucking my BB like that and it saves me an extra "search and click" in Rush as apposed to Zone.

Though I do see why Bovada would prefer the other way. Porbably up to 5% more hands out.
Fair point, I guess I am just used to the way Rush poker used to be (when I could actually play there).
Online Veteran is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 07:05 PM   #2572
Douggyfr3sh
adept
 
Douggyfr3sh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: unknown
Posts: 868
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Hey Ice,

Read several pages back and haven't seen this asked yet- do you have any idea how long it might be before Zone poker is spread at higher stakes, say 100NL+ ?
Douggyfr3sh is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 08:00 PM   #2573
inspectorgadget
adept
 
inspectorgadget's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Austin
Posts: 942
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Douggyfr3sh View Post
Hey Ice,

Read several pages back and haven't seen this asked yet- do you have any idea how long it might be before Zone poker is spread at higher stakes, say 100NL+ ?
I just came to this thread hoping to find out as well. Roll it out soon fellas . I want to play for some real moneys....
inspectorgadget is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 08:13 PM   #2574
PropVillain
banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Do you feel in charge?
Posts: 73
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Can you please tell me the name of the song Bovada uses while calls are on hold? You see it's kind of my junt and I think it's upsetting the support staff when I keep making excuses 2 or 3 times a day to listen to it.
PropVillain is offline  
Old 08-07-2013, 10:54 PM   #2575
BeerBottlez
Pooh-Bah
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,908
Re: *** Official Bodog Network Support Thread ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by PropVillain View Post
Can you please tell me the name of the song Bovada uses while calls are on hold? You see it's kind of my junt and I think it's upsetting the support staff when I keep making excuses 2 or 3 times a day to listen to it.
LOL. They play that same hold music on other places I've called in the past as well. I think it might have been the same on ACR or it was somewhere.
BeerBottlez is offline  

Closed Thread
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2008-2020, Two Plus Two Interactive