How much of Wasicka's absolute 180 in performance do you guys chalk up to simply getting better cards? It seemed like against Ferguson Wasicka not only couldn't pick up a hand, but he was playing really really badly. Then against Forrest it was a like a totally different person. He just ran Ted over like a bulldozer, but he also happened to be catching cards (even when he limped in with 43o he flopped two pair). I mean obviously the two things are related (when we run well, we play well, and vice versa). But maybe some of you guys who actually play HU NL fairly often can give some insight into how much better Waskica was really playing vs. simply how much better he was running.

Kinda sucks to see him the first one eliminated -- of the first 3 episodes, I think he played better against Forrest than either Hellmuth or Forrest has played all week. Justice not served imo.

Paul W. : much better person, much better player. much better man.
Tedd: dick.

no he is just screwing my best friend's ex-gf

wow. i was really surprised by ted forrests showing in the latest episode. he has always come across as a very classy and nice guy... now he started traashtalking wasicka and berating his play.. then after he sucks out with the worst hand he claims wasicka soulda laid down his AT lol


that "im not sure its a compliment" was just terrible...

hellmuth is such a tool shed in this. i really cant believe his family has never told him to stop acting like such a twat.

Ooo, interesting. It sounds like each subsequent day of PAD is getting more "eventful", especially in comparison to Tuesday's Ferguson-Wasicka yawner. I'm looking forward to this one, although I'm also bracing myself for disappointment -- I've generally liked Ted Forrest, and it sounds like he comes across like a Class A D-bag based on what I'm reading here.

Thanks for the feedback on my question in re Ferguson, too. I watched parts of the Tuesday episode again and you're absolutely right: he didn't pick up anything so much as he found good spots.

Also, I noticed that Ferguson acted much more swiftly in that match than he normally seems to. (You know: peek at cards, cap them, cover mouth with hands, pause for three seconds, act.) Is this indicative of his comfort level at heads-up? Or did Wasicka's pace just allow him more time to render his decisions?

Anyway, can't wait to get home to watch this tonight.

someone ban this troll already

And wtf was up with Ted's super-ghey call when he waved his chips around and around?

Also, not sure that was Pepsi he was slamming. Looked more like red wine, but then again I have a lo-def 27-inch non-balla TV.

I think Ted was steaming a lot, and evidently he's a very mean steamer. What a douchebag.

Everyone saying that Ted was a douchebag against paul (while you are correct) is forgetting that Ted was (in my opinion) a dbag against hellmuth, too. When they were playing, Phil wasn't (in the hands they showed) being slow, hollywooding, hot dogging, taking camera time, etc... but at the end, Ted was still a douchebag about Phil hurrying up. Both times Ted did it, he was in the middle of a bluff. Both times it got him called. Ive always liked Ted and thought he was really good (both by what Ive seen, and the fact that he's usually felated by whatever announcer is announcing that particular show) but he played like **** both nights.

HU poker with short stacks, is not particularly interesting and is just an exercise in variance until the two people play like 100+ matches.

FYP

Also, is the WSOP HU event this weak? I might have to play it next year, if everyone is this clueless how to play hu, esp. on the shortstack.

It's obvious his wife likes twat,.

In the first half of the episode Ted is drinking out of a large Pepsi cup (a cup like you might get at a MLB concession stand). Of course, any type of liquid could be in the cup but he was sipping out of a straw. Later in the episode he seemed to be drinking red wine out of a wine glass. Ted seemed to be on some type of meds that was fing with his system to me.

gotta say thank god more car ads and less klondike bar ads at 10x normal volume

also ted was steaming, but wasicka kept laying down good hands..

This could be a good concept.

Two years of Wasicka-Forrest on PAD, HU. Once and for all, we'll know who is best...

Disagree that it got him called. I could be wrong about this, but I don't think he was making those comments to be a d-bag. My feeling is that both comments, and the Hellmuth one in particular (since we know how much stock Phil puts in tells) were attempts at reverse psychology to get folds. Generally when you're pondering a call and someone insults you or hurries you up (calling the clock etc), you are trying to get called. But since a good player knows this, it's not a bad fake to throw them when you're bluffing.

I will say that the comment about generally folding AT was bitterness along lines of "What took you so long?"

Lost in this was Wasicka's comment about how "mathematically" the AT was a fold--his play up to that point really showed a great grasp of the math

However, he was INCREDIBLY classy to not take the bait after Forrest insulted him twice; I really respect that. Also, since I've made two Wasicka-bashing posts, I want to make it clear that I have heard and I believe that he is a sick, sick NL player when the stacks are deep; I'm surprised that someone playing a tourney like this wouldn't brush up on the basic math of shortstacked play, but then again, he might be too rich to care.

Can't wait for Ferguson vs. Hellmuth. It's so funny watching Chris Ferguson of all people put Hellmuth on tilt; for some reason he's really really good at it. Whenever they play on PAD it's never too long before Phil's ranting and raving about how Chris plays.

I think there's a little bit of insecurity and resentment there, because Chris is a better, more rounded tournament player, and Phil realizes it.

I think a big part of it is that Jesus knows when to shove pre-flop, and pre-flop shoving always pisses off Hellmuth.

Ted just wants them to play faster and I don't blame him. I hate playing with guys who take 2 minutes to make a decision after every street

Sorry NBC. I watched 1/2 of the first episode this week and that was that. I've been watching religiously for the entire series and love the 6-person tourney format.

Cash game was excellent. I enjoyed the change of pace.

But HU does not work. At all. IMO.

does anyone else get the vibe that forrest doesnt wanna be there?

i got that vibe before this week was ever aired lol

ted forrest was tired of wasicka's slow play and the posing.

ted forrest plays at tables with millions at stake.. this 200k tourney is not too exciting.

i did feel the pinch for paul when he grinned thinking it was a compliment yet ted stuck the ice pick in his ribs.... i will say it's nice to get a glimps of ted as something different. previous to this the defining television moment in my mind was when he sat down at the high stakes game in season two and doyle said to him that he apologizes for calling him a name the previous season. he says "that's ok doyle"....

forrest is gonna eat up hellmuth. hellmuth is not afraid of ferguson because ferguson is mostly a tournament player like himself. hellmuth is intimidated by the big game players.

however if ferguson beats hellmuth then i look for a hell of a match between ferguson and forrest. ferguson will have more patience than forrest which would probably give jesus the edge.

EPIC COMEBACK ON THE WAY AMIRITE?