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View Poll Results: Who Will Win The Inaugural Poker After Dark Heads-Up Challenge?

Chris Ferguson

77 42.78%

Paul Wasicka

25 13.89%

Ted Forrest

48 26.67%

Phil Hellmuth

30 16.67%

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08-01-2008 , 06:44 PM

#226

BarrySanders

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Forrest couldn't have had an overpair in that situation?

He DID raise before the flop, so it's not impossible.

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08-01-2008 , 06:54 PM

#227

Dima2000123

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Originally Posted by BarrySanders

Forrest couldn't have had an overpair in that situation?

He DID raise before the flop, so it's not impossible.

He could've have quads too. Are you up against a better hand in that spot some of the times? Sure. Are you up against a better hand 70% of the times? Not when the villain is an aggressive player.

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08-01-2008 , 06:54 PM

#228

Dima2000123

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Originally Posted by TimTimSalabim

So how weak a hand do you call with there? I'm sure you're going to say 55.

I'm calling with any 8.

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08-01-2008 , 07:50 PM

#229

Army Eye

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Originally Posted by Garbs

Does anyone else think it's bull**** Chris has to win twice against Hellmuth? What is that?

It's a double elimination tournament..

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08-02-2008 , 02:10 AM

#230

BarrySanders

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helmuth with the hero call.

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08-02-2008 , 02:14 AM

#231

Dilznoofus

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38% shot to win.

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08-02-2008 , 02:23 AM

#232

poppoppoq

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that was sick when he folded j9

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08-02-2008 , 02:24 AM

#233

pricedin

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Hellmuth is flat out owning Ferguson. c/r with J high. limp raise with 77. I don't think I've ever seen Hellmuth playing so focused hand after hand. It's a nice change from his normal antics.

He even loses the minimum when he feels he is really behind (I lol'ed when he balked with that preflop decision with J9)

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08-02-2008 , 02:30 AM

#234

beansroast01

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Hellmuth when he thinks he is weak:

Hellmuth when he thinks he has the best hand:

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08-02-2008 , 02:33 AM

#235

poppoppoq

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Hellmuth is really impressing me. This is fun to watch

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08-02-2008 , 02:38 AM

#236

beserious

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lol @ PH's monologue.

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08-02-2008 , 02:46 AM

#237

Merum

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PH is running over Jesus here.

Spoiler:

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08-02-2008 , 03:02 AM

#238

BarrySanders

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Originally Posted by beserious

lol @ PH's monologue.

Seems like a slight case of multiple personality disorder to me!

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08-02-2008 , 03:04 AM

#239

poppoppoq

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Jesus got owned

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08-02-2008 , 03:09 AM

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FortWorthJim

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This is the closest Hellmuth has ever come to playing like his idealized version of himself.

Ferguson was totally demoralized.

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08-02-2008 , 03:19 AM

#241

Pork Fri Rize

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Ted Forrest just gave the chunky redheaded dealer a big hug.

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08-02-2008 , 03:43 AM

#242

LirvA

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Hellmuth had a hell of a heater in the last match.

I liked Chris' constant raising on the button, bought him a lot of free cards, getting Hellmuth to check to him after the flop.

The top of Hellmuth's game is constantly violating the fundamental theorem of poker.

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08-02-2008 , 03:45 AM

#243

UATrewqaz

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Before you crown PH greatest HU player in the universe, he was getting way better cards and flops than Jesus, at least in the hands they showed.

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08-02-2008 , 04:23 AM

#244

m_reed05

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run better pls Hellmuth

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08-02-2008 , 06:07 AM

#245

AustinBOOM

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Ted Forrest is a ****ing ******

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08-02-2008 , 10:17 AM

#246

Jourdain

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Wow, Phil was pretty focused in the final. Played great.

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08-02-2008 , 10:40 AM

#247

markkaz

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Ferguson didn't stand a chance. He didn't have any fighting cards or boards.

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08-02-2008 , 11:55 AM

#248

Pennbok

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As Chris said, it's tough to win when you have to bluff every hand. And then the poor guy has to listen to Phil stating proudly how his calling every (bluff) bet set the tone. It is true that calling every bet with any pair worked for Phil since Chris was card-dead for the most part (assuming the hands we saw were representative), and when Chris did have him crushed with QQ he hit his two-pair on the river. Has they had each other's cards I think Chris' style may have been unstoppable.

Phil's preflop lay down of the J9 when Chris had AJ was pretty uncanny, since Phil called some of Chris' preflop raises with a lot worse.

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08-02-2008 , 02:01 PM

#249

Dima2000123

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Originally Posted by LirvA

I actually don't like raising on the button so much if you're going to be timid post-flop against an aggressive player. Jesus seemed to give up post-flop in the second half of the match, which made raising the button with all sorts of marginal hands a waste of chips. That said, Hellmuth did get blown away by the deck, and for once he was playing competently, so in reality Jesus was doomed no matter what he did.