Looking forward to the trip report. It'll be so much easier than all this silly changing your story every day.

attentionnoone, you are so delusional I'm having difficulty believing you are real.

i haven't changed my story, I told you she's free-rolling from the beginning

she sent me 485 to start a new stake on 3/16 why would she send me anything?

her balance with me was zero at that point, that's why

why is she to be believed over me? she's lied constantly throughout

you guys are just terrible at poker and not capable of thinking with your mind instead of your hear

Peace out

If she wants the 222 she can have it otherwise I will see you in court

Her balance with me was 0 at 3/16 if you want to figure out what she has left the data record is all there. I knew she was going to free roll that tourney. She's saying that she wants her stake money back when I lost it at the table. She's got a bunch of people who hate poker players to back her story.

I've tried to settle on a number in the middle or some compromise but she's got a bunch of ******s who don't care about the facts and couldn't figure it with them anyway to egg her along

this is irresponsible and I will sue, I don't care who's right or wrong, this is coming down or Nicole is liable

Good luck getting online poker back after this idiotic mess.

Lord, you need bitch-slapped.

You think online poker's legalization hinges on you? Hum...

A couple hundred posts ago you admitted you were wrong, told her you owed her in excess of $900, apologized and said you would set up a payment plan.

Now, you say you owe her nothing (but you haven't changed your story!) and are threatening to sue. Small Claims Court is expressly designed to deal with people like you and I could win with one-tenth of the proof that you've posted in this thread.

Pay her and get help.

it hinges on 2p2 and if they start threads with all kinds of theivery allegations and people coming in saying thief this thief that when there is a dispute, then no, we won't get it back

you at least wont be able to do business with other players, how can you do business when the first 40 pages are backing one side of the story and calling ppl a thief when it just isn't stealing. It's not legally stealing. If you are going to be this irresponsible and any lawmaker can google this stuff and see that poker players can't police themselves and the major site can't provide a platform to mediate a dispute in a civilized manner, and can't compromise, then, no, it's not coming back

I mean **** it took 60 pages for people to even look at the data, everything before that is vicious attacks, mostly by mods, by mods! I thought mod was short for moderate. This isn't moderating and it's going to come back and bite you if you want poker back, but apparently the mods here don't even play or they are so terrible at it they shouldn't get near a table.

I wouldn't vote for it.

So Senator, we can not count on your vote. Now:

PAY HER THE MONEY!

If she bothered taking you to court, your own words in the emails you have sent her admitting you owed the money make this case a slam donk.
In any dispute, if the accused puts into writing acknowledging the debt the case is basically over. Coming on here 3 years later and also at times admitting the debt further seals your fate in small claims court.
Admitting in here you are compulsive liar is the icing on the cake for Nicole.
Your defense of why you admitted that you owed this money because you were scared because she is a moderator on a poker forum but only became one after you misappropriated her money would just get a chuckle from any small claims judge.
What I do not understand is why the back and forth is going on.
No one on here or IRL would ever ever believe you over her.
Nicole has demonstrated that she was a trusting friend to you. Accepted your hard luck stories and allowed you even after stealing $200 for personal expenses continue on. Gave you plenty of time to make good on this. Did not pursue you when you vanished with her money for years. Refused to lie for you to another backer even though it meant she can get paid back her money showing character and not compromising her integrity for $900. Even saying you could still use her as a reference but if asked she was not going to lie.
You on the other hand come off as a mentally ill person which you actually admit to being.
You admit to be a liar. You say you have all the proof and then do not. You admit it comes down to her word vs yours. No one and I mean on here in real life or anywhere else would take your word over hers.
End of story. Why this is even still being debated is beyond me. It is over. You lost.
You will not pay her the money. I think though she would like it back, she does not care enough to sue you in real life.
The thing you care about is the thread coming down. It will not.
And the ballgame is over.

but this thread proves it was an extortion attempt

if I try and dispute it an irresponsible poker site will slam my reputation, she was already threatening me the day after BF and she was right, people were calling me a thief before I had a chance to defend myself. that email means nothing because it was in response to her threats to make this thread in the first place and this thread is my evidence to that

Its not extortion when you owe the money.

I hear what you are saying but I never owed her 950 in the first place and she has shown that there is no compromise and that she has the leverage of this forum that will be this irresponsible in their reporting.

She won't accept any compromise and hasn't from the beginning, won't go over the data with me personally, and I was and am being extorted for money I don't owe, she just admitted she wanted her stake money back when i lost it at the table, whatever has happened don't you care enough about poker to get it right?

I'm not sure how you guys can feel good about it even if the number she has is right, the way it came about in the end, just don't see how if you like poker you can feel good about how this is being resolved. I feel ashamed for the game. It's a small amount of money but there is no way people are going to be able to stake each other without lawyers to write contracts if disputes are mediated this way.

I was and have always been willing to pay the money I thought I owed her and tried to, accept that, then bring the dispute in a civilized manner, don't bring xxx is a theif, that will kill us in the long run

it was 40 pages of thief thief thief before anyone even asked for the data set. Why? do you want to get it right or do you want everyone to just quit poker?

The only hope that I see for you in court is using insanity as an affirmative defense, but I've never seen that used in Small Claims. Who knows, hope springs eternal!

She is giving you a break just wanting the principle balance of staking money back. You lost it at the table after you stole it from the stake. Or you stole it and spent it on personal bills or stole it-and played cash games, all in violation of the staking agreement. You lost stolen money.

Actually, people told you from the start to post your numbers, and I posted the transaction records less than 24 hours from when you bumped the ATF thread.

But don't let petty facts slow you down. Please, continue to rant about how one dude stealing less than $1k will destroy poker.

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calm down RJ

you quit me on Feb 28th and I closed your account. we restarted on March 16th, we've had this dispute for 3 years

you can't have your stake money back if I lost it at the table but you can have what was left, you can have the coaching money back because I never got a shot to coach you and we can call it a loan if you want

lets sit down and figure it out together we don't need this forum to mediate it otherwise it could go on forever and it's not good for anyone, we can both go through the data record and try and jog each others memory, not being able to resolve this sucks for everyone

I am not sure why you sent me 485, that seems wierd so it's possible I had 265 of yours in my account at that time and the 485 tops it off to 750, I don't remember the number 750 at all.

I lost past 3/16, you are responsible for the losses. That should come out to about 400ish, we can settle that immediately and delete?

this thread needs to be deleted coz we were actually pretty close at one time and we should be able to work it out

Thread needs to be deleted.....lol. That has about as much chance of happening as you winning this case in small claims court. Get back on your bi-polar meds and take a few days off from the thread and then come back and see if it all makes sense.

it does make sense and I took my meds. the reason she sent me 485 is because her account was closed at 0 on the 28th, she had no money with me on 3/15

the 200 was supposed to be coaching or MU depending on results

if you were me would it be ok if that's what you thought and your backer thought it was more and can call you a thief without penalty in 2p2 and 50 other ppl would do the same and smear your IRL to the whole internet? how would you react? would you just pay the hush money?

how about if the accused is the only one being infracted for using IRL names, do you think he can get a fair hearing and if you can't have a fair hearing in 2p2 MP, then no one can do biz here, it's too dangerous

I decline to participate in your version of reality.

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Mr. Bennett, do you think its strange that of all the different posters, not a single one has come to your defense in the thread? This thread has been viewed over 13,000 times and not one person has sided with you. Some people have been more gentle, less mocking, but not a single peer in a poker forum has stated they think you have handled this correctly? Why do think that is? Have the mods deleted all your supporters? Or is it that your behavior so unreasonable that no one is willing to support your position (whichever one that would be)? Think about it.

Her waiting 3 years before putting this up proves there was no extortion attempt and a 6th grader would be able to see this so I am confident a small claims judge would be able to as well.
She put this up as a warning for others to be careful if dealing with you.
By the way the only extortion/blackmail that existed was you saying if you provide me a reference saying I am an honest great guy then you will get your money back. Paid not by me, but my new sucker, I mean backer.

RJ didn't put this up. That's the best part.

OP came in and offered to pay her 265 to end the thing, that's what re-started this whole thing. She wasn't looking for or expecting any money. To imply that she engineered this whole thing is...

...well, entirely on par for the rest of Jeff's delusions.

absolutely no question that I handled it incorrectly, but RJ has too and so has 2p2, we've all handled it bad, let's start handling it right

it was always coming down to this her word vs my word, she wants her stake money back, ok why doesn't she want her profit? why is it 950 when if she had all action it's 1170? do you think a person like this would compromise on 1170 when she hasn't compromised on 950?

I'm glad she quit me on the 28th because it's easy for me to figure out what she's owed, but she did quit me putting her balance at 0 at that date, am I supposed to pay her more?

Sir, you had 3 years to try to figure this out. You did not do so. You could of paid her $5 week and I bet after 3 years she would of at some point said we are good Jeff, thanks for the effort.
Oh and for the record, I care about poker. I am long time winning player at poker. I have been playing online for 9 years, not as a career but for the love of the game and the money I make from it.
Playing games you were not supposed to on a stake is bad for the game Jeff.
If you stole the stake, and I know you did, it is bad for the game Jeff.
Hiding and not paying a debt for 3 years is bad for the game.
Not trying to resolve even if you did not steal for 3 years is bad for the game.
Doing so only because you thought you had a win/win solution: reference for you and debt paid to Sgt RJ is bad for the game.
Saying girlfriend stole a check that never really came was bad for the game Jeff.
I could go on and on but I quit.