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***OFFICIAL Stars 2014 MTT Discussion Thread*** ***OFFICIAL Stars 2014 MTT Discussion Thread***

12-05-2014 , 11:30 AM
Thing used to be nice and big, for sure make it a 40k again...... Make it REd
12-05-2014 , 11:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Detonator
How much playing around was done with the split in the PKO's? Its probably been discussed when they came out but I missed it

Why was the 50/50 split decided? I've always kind of looked at them and wished they were 60/40 or 70/30 a little, but its not something I've given much thought to, but watching the 1k today and seeing guys beat similiar fields to the ST and win 50%~ of the money seemed a little disheartening
The overall winner in last night's Thrill took home an amount very similar to what he would have won in the Super Tuesday with the same number of runners, actually, when knockouts are factored in... it's part of the nature of the tournament. If you somehow manage to get to the final table without knocking anyone out, yes you're going to win less than you would have by doing the same thing in the Super Tuesday, but the nature of the tournament is such that one of the goals is to eliminate players along the way.
12-05-2014 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by UsainBolt969
Red Rebuys
Yes, please. The 10rebuy at 8:00 EST is a prime candidate.

Big 33 at 6:00
Big 44 at 7:00

Big 5 at 9:00
Big 75 at 10:00
12-05-2014 , 12:01 PM
The hour between the big 8 and b22 would be a perfect spot for a $55-$75 turbo freezeout that I suggested a few weeks ago and you said you would consider not much happening here apart from the 44 6max which has gotten tiny and a bunch of cubes/quads and then the $8 6max turbo late in the hour.
12-05-2014 , 12:13 PM
Stars are massively over compensating for a new tax bill in certain large playerpool countries, and bringing in raked rebuys in the new year.

Its likely gonna cause a noticeable reduction in field sizes and guarantees in them (and will hopefully decimate them). So pushing to add new ones doesn't seem like the way to go.
12-05-2014 , 12:16 PM
+1 to red rebuys
12-05-2014 , 12:29 PM
yes please change the structure of the 7.5r 3x-turbo to the thrill to the same structure as the 1.65r 3x-turbo to the mil and 4.4r 3x-turbo to the ST
12-05-2014 , 02:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fivetypes
Stars are massively over compensating for a new tax bill in certain large playerpool countries, and bringing in raked rebuys in the new year.

Its likely gonna cause a noticeable reduction in field sizes and guarantees in them (and will hopefully decimate them). So pushing to add new ones doesn't seem like the way to go.
Why do you want them to be decimated? Rebuys are great.
12-05-2014 , 02:51 PM
Rebuys Is more Poker and less bingo imo... Dont kill off poker please
12-05-2014 , 02:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gollyheck
Why do you want them to be decimated? Rebuys are great.
I assume what he means is the players from countries like the UK will refuse to play them as the rake is unfair. If so I agree.
12-05-2014 , 03:00 PM
$215 FO in conjunction with the Big11 on Fridays.

We'll call it


Spoiler:
The Friday Flick
12-05-2014 , 03:05 PM
If Pokerstars does add a daily $215 FO, they should definitely call it "The Daily High Roller." Sounds prestigious and Im sure you'll get alot of people taking shots at it.
12-05-2014 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
I assume what he means is the players from countries like the UK will refuse to play them as the rake is unfair. If so I agree.
Meh kinda seemed like he just wants them to die for everyone. I can see why you guys wouldn't want to play them but leave them for us (and the UK fish that don't realise about the extra rake)
12-05-2014 , 03:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Detonator
How much playing around was done with the split in the PKO's? Its probably been discussed when they came out but I missed it

Why was the 50/50 split decided? I've always kind of looked at them and wished they were 60/40 or 70/30 a little, but its not something I've given much thought to, but watching the 1k today and seeing guys beat similiar fields to the ST and win 50%~ of the money seemed a little disheartening
It was actually tested for a long time, with the help of ppl on 2p2 and other places.

The whole goal was to make KOs significant throughout the tournament. It fixes the main problem that regular KOs have: lack of significance KOing players. That is the purpose of PSKO. If you lower the KO payout, then the KO becomes much less significant later in the tournament.

You are supposed to grapple with decisions even at the FT about if you want to risk your chips to chase the bounty - knowing full well that the FT is very top heavy and rewards dominance and KOing your competition.

The higher you increase the ratio toward the prizepool, the more you diminish the reason for these tournaments existing.

Note, we helped with these changes before Amaya raised rake. We'd have never tried to push for what it is today if we realized we were gonna get owned by a sale of the company.
12-05-2014 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rounder63
Rebuys Is more Poker and less bingo imo... Dont kill off poker please
For sure. The early game stack flexibility, plus the prospect of a 10r being cheaper to play than a $55 FO, is very attractive to recreational players.
12-05-2014 , 03:16 PM
dont ruin the b109 by putting a red 215 close to it ok, ty
12-05-2014 , 03:20 PM
I brought up a big 215, it def run everyday, dont put it next to the b109 but def put it somewhere after
12-05-2014 , 03:37 PM
Suggestion:

Whenever you guys make changes to the mtt schedule for example when a new tournament gets added to the schedule or when a gtd prizepool of any tourney gets increased or even when a new format is introduced, they should be shown in "My News"

Currently they only show promotions, would be nice if they also show something like:

"What's new in this week?

Experience the thrill of Thursday Thrill inaugurating this week
8-Game gets a Hi roller
New additions: Daily $27 mixed games
New format - Bubble Dash"
12-05-2014 , 03:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by anuj22
Suggestion:

Whenever you guys make changes to the mtt schedule for example when a new tournament gets added to the schedule or when a gtd prizepool of any tourney gets increased or even when a new format is introduced, they should be shown in "My News"

Currently they only show promotions, would be nice if they also show something like:

"What's new in this week?

Experience the thrill of Thursday Thrill inaugurating this week
8-Game gets a Hi roller
New additions: Daily $27 mixed games
New format - Bubble Dash"
yep, sorta like an MTT schedule patch notes. Would be really helpful and informative.
12-05-2014 , 04:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by burnJa
If Pokerstars does add a daily $215 FO, they should definitely call it "The Daily High Roller." Sounds prestigious and Im sure you'll get alot of people taking shots at it.
Spoiler:
The Friday Flick
12-05-2014 , 04:17 PM
Big $215 could potentially go 1 hour after the Hot 33 starts and then the $215 turbo that runs with the Hot 44 could be the Hot $215 (or push it back 30 or 60 mins if you don't want 2 hots starting at same time). I only suggest this as there really isn't much early in the day...off the top of my head, stuff that I potentially play on days I fire MTTs starting with Big 75 until Big 109 starts (3 hour window)

Big 75 (7:00 pst)
265 KO (7:15)
55 fo (7:30)
Hot 33 (7:30)
55 KO (8:00)
33^3 (8:30)
109rebuy (9:00)
Big 22 (9:00)
55 tko (9:45)
Big 109 (10:00)

That's not a whole lot of MTTs for a 3 hour period of time. I feel that the 8:30 PST timeslot could be good as well as a lot of hsmtters start their day with/around the 109rebuy, and this could potentially help grow the 265 KO larger as guys might start with late reg 265ko when the Big $215 starts and then jump in the 109r on time.

Then on flipside, later in the day mid-hs events that sometimes get cancelled like the 55^3, 109^4 might start never not running (and might get bigger) because there'd be a huge $215 turbo a few hours later which would keep ppl loading. I'd say that the Hot $215 should start 1 hour after the Hot $44, seems a good timeslot for it.

I find it weird that there is no Big $215 since most of the weekend 'special' events are $215 buyins and events such as the $1050 ST are literally bigger than they have ever been before, so there is clearly a demand for high stake fo's. On top of that, lolol_Party and lolol_Merge both run successful $200 fo's every day, don't see why PS doesn't have one as well.
12-05-2014 , 04:26 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^ Get it done!!
12-05-2014 , 04:28 PM
in comparison, 888 only has three 215$/209$ tourneys a week...

Last edited by Uhrenknecht; 12-05-2014 at 04:49 PM.
12-05-2014 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Uhrenknecht
in comparison, 888 only has three 215$/240$ tourneys a week...
Okay....Stars also has INF more players than 888 as well, we could go back and forth on this all day or you could shut the **** up and maybe a good addition to the schedule would be made
12-05-2014 , 04:32 PM
Jdog has infact RAISEDDDDDDDDDD AND ITS BIG.. big215 vamooooooo

      
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