The fact that the only way you can think to combat the criticism about your behaviour is to create a fantasy that when I replied to 5 or 6 threads in the MP 3 years ago, and half of them didnt reply I took yours as a personal insult and have waited until now to exact my revenge just proves what a dullard you are.

Even though I immediately got picked up by Zima at the time and have been with him happily ever since.

The truth is my posting history shows ive never said a word to you till I offered these 2 posts in the Joker thread a few months ago.

Both in support of you youll notice. (definite grudge though, and troll)

After that I gave you a bit of **** in the last longer because guess what you were being unreasonable and weren't willing to listen (please go ahead and link the posts)

Thats all I have said to you before this thread.

The reason im going to bat here is because I think its pretty obvious you are a bully, and arguably worse, areally really ****ing stupid bully who actually doesnt have the tools to think critically about any situation and so blindly sticks to whatever intimidation or delusion you are currently spouting.

I actually feel sorry for you.

You are doing a much better job to **** yourself over than I ever could.

That one random poster is like the only actual crazy insult that's been hurled at demetri. The rest of the "insults" have just been factual comments about his character based on how he has presented himself in this and the jokeruis thread.

WE must view insults differently.. I stand by all my comments in the JokerUis thread and think he should pay some of his recent winnings to the posters in that thread, because he never made a case for himself.

Yes, Demetri handled it bad, but according to him, he doesn't have a lot of these problems to know how to handle them. I don't think Asylum or Jokeruis handled them well either. It's obvious he should have dropped both horses long before these threads were made. I'm not his friend and I don't know him personally, but I understand his feelings towards these situations. Its pretty hard to be polite to anyone that tells you to reload them and to go **** yourself. There are too many prominent posters against him for him to get a fair shake now anyway.

I agree the stipulations for Asylum are not fair and near impossible to get out of MU abiding by, but he accepted the terms of the stake. Does that not hold any merit anymore?

Just have one question for demetri.. do you feel that no matter what if you back a horse you should never lose money? It seems that your contract basically means the horse has to at least breakeven or at least slave away for life trying

Demetri you are a complete wanker. The only scumbag in this situation is you. Your disgusting.
IMO OP gets a walk from the makeup after your foul mouthed insults.

And i cant wait to hear when you threaten someone who really IS dangerous. Maybe then you will learn a valuable lesson in life: TREAT THOSE HOW YOU WISH TO BE TREATED.

You really are the nut low bringing his babies and wife into it. IDIOT

not at all ,but i don't agree with someone scamming me for xxx amount e.g jokerius thread where he rolls me for over 30k and then carries on playing for another backer

the guy in question is up a decent amount in the game i want him to grind,just down a lot in the games i did not want him to play

its a pretty messy situation (and i have only skimmed the thread), but i will possibly arbitrate this if i am paid an hourly to do so. let me know demetri.

What other insults have you seen? Possible I've missed it but for the most part people are just saying he is a bad backer, that he is a douchebag, and that he needs professional help. They may technically be insults but they are deserved based on how he has acted and there is nothing wrong with people telling him he is acting the wrong way (although he doesn't listen to anyone so none of it helps anyways).

Who said the deal doesn't hold merit? 98% of people think they should sell the makeup to someone else or find a reasonable way to grind back the mu. The horse has repeatedly said he will grind back the MU, he just doesn't want to get bullied by demetri anymore. From all the evidence presented the horse has barely made any mistakes in this situation, and the couple he did make (like holding onto the $1400 in his acct) he quickly rectified after someone told him he was wrong. The only reason this situation came about is because demetri obviously was putting someone in some higher games than he should have been playing in because they were looking for the big bink, since he isn't amazing at poker he built up a lot of MU, and now they are stuck in this situation. Demetri than abused his horse mentally by calling him all kinds of names and telling him he is a ****ty person/father and that his wife should leave him.

i was going to make the same offer for your thread ,so lets just call is quits

not even trolling. my threads dont even need arbitration.

offer stands

just leave the disgusting pig in MU, get a job and do what's bests for you and your family. Don't even consider any kind of arbitration as the idiot voided any kind of lol contract a long time ago. He will get almost zero support if you go down that road.

For someone that claims to have 300 horses it's amazing he gets away with this kind of behaviour. I wouldn't be surprised if a whole load of his horses jump ship also. Lets hope so.

All bs aside...dimitri wanna stake me? Lol

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Zima can I offer my services as an assistant for you arbitrating for Demetri?

I have to agree with the others. Backing someone is an investment. Sometimes you will lose money. If I invest in Facebook and they go bankrupt I lose my investment. You continued to invest time after time in a losing player. Sounds like a bad business decision. In addition, you come off as an arrogant moron. All of your insults, threats, etc would get you fired from any real job and ruin any credibility you might have had. If I was Asylum I would tell you to **** off because A. You're a prick and B. Your odds in court are laughable.

Yes, those are insults. There are 2 cases on 2p2 of him handling a backing situation poorly. And, according to demetri(who hasn't been called a liar yet afaik) has had 320 horses, with only these 2 not working out publically. If he was a bad backer, then you would think more people would be willing to come forward to attest that.

I can't see how anyone can say Jokeruis was in the right against Demetri. That thread became so cluttered with hate, I doubt anybody would even want to get through it.

He would look very bad to me ITT, if it wasn't for Asylum's attitude towards the stake. Excuses and variance are 2 different things and Demerti feels the effort and attention wasn't there. He didn't roll it and Demetri is obv to blame for letting him play games he can't win, but to say no to playing the only games he can win has go to be tilting for Demetri.

Instead of helping both these guys as a community come to a resolution, we have completely sided with the horse (which rarely happens) and have called for the head of the backer. Obv Demetri hasn't helped any of us and obv isn't out to make friends, but after the jokeruis thread, he probably wasn't going to get any fair arbitration from the community anyway

If Demetri was remotely in the right then I'd be happy to say so despite what I think of him or in spite of his past actions. He's not right. He's wrong. So very, very, very wrong. If anything, Demetri violated the horse/backer agreement far more than the horse did. Horse was arguing to keep games on the stake that he wanted to play. He was negotiating. Maybe he went about it in a non-diplomatic way by saying he'd "refuse" to comply. But I understand his position. He's fighting for something. Conversations can get to that point. I've had horses argue with me. It happens.

But Demetri offering the guy 1k when he knows that he's in a bad spot, and then rescinding that offer right in the middle of that and leaving the horse no choice but to find other income is a much bigger breach of any contract. That, along with his ridiculous rants, should be the major focus. If you're in a position of "power" then don't abuse it. Don't offer someone something who is complying with your terms and then yank it away because you're mad. I know Demetri, I know, you said you wanted him to play 4-5 days a week. But you still haven't shown where you originally said that. Best we can tell from convo excerpts is that you wanted 1k games a month which he was on track for. Horse had every right to quit and seek income to feed himself and more importantly his family.

MM what you say is true in that he already created a bad impression in the Joker thread, and that likely influenced some initial thoughts people had on him before this thread came about.

But youre acting like he just gave him a few verbals and nothing else. The fact that the vast majority of people who arent connected to the situation are all in agreement that what he actually did far exceeded that, and not only that actually likely broke his own word before Asylum did should tell you that its not a situation where playing Devils Advocate is worthwhile.

Also where are all these horses jumping to his defence about what an awesome and fair guy he is? I know there were a few posts in the Joker thread, where he actually likely did get scammed in some way, but they are suspiciously absent here. Id love to read 300 positive testimonials.

LOL,i could get them to all post again ,but why

to say they have not had this problem with me and i treat them fair

how does that solve this problem

stop saying i broke the deal with him ,it was not a contract like i had with him.it was an idea that we agreed on that was not working ,so i ended it

matt saying he then has to go and work and play part time for me ,well that is fine ...you all read the chat logs so well ,then you should know i am fine with that

Some people grow weary of death threats and are just happy to be over a weird relationship with a special person. You really expect them to post about it a lot?




I am happy to supervise his work for one of those new 90/10 deals.

All the best.


Edit: Zima just offered me 95/5...

I am amazed you are finding the time to refute every single post in both threads but cant see how getting people to post in your favour might be a better idea to try and shift some momentum back your way?

Or at least make SOME people start to feel you might have been having a bad month or something to act like such a massive **** in the chat logs, and really you are ok most of the time.

Im thinking how its possible you dont see all this cos you actually cant be that dumb but just appear clueless about how to deal with or resolve any of this conflict. I can only assume this is what you were taught as a child. Dont take no ****, crush people before they get you, everyone is out to get you so get them first etc etc

What you may feel is banter youd give someone in a real life back and forth, when put in text can only be taken at face value, and theres no question it looks horrifically bad for you.

you have serious issues man ,all day you have spent trying to get me banned from 2+2 and swearing at me and throwing insults

this all started cause i would not back you ,scary to think how you would treat someone if they really did something bad to you

now you call me a "****" ...WOW just WOW

you do get people here are mad at me for insulting this guy cause i was/am angry at him?

what have you been doing all day ? (insulting me)

you are better than me how ? you have anger issues buddy ,i can't picture how sad your life must be .you spent a whole day on me for what ?LOL

i am here and angry for $16,000 ,you are here and angry because ?

dude go outside a bit more ,get a life man ...get over your hate for me ,you are looking as bad as me right now ...at least i have an excuse... $16,000

I guess you're right, in that this situation is beyond any resolve we can help with. I'm not gonna say that he didn't make a big mistake it the eyes of the community with the words he chose, but they weren't actions. People seem to be getting confused, or maybe I am, but I don't see any threats vs Asylums family in the emails. I see him threatening to tell them how deep the makeup was and maybe exaggerating to them how he got there. Obv everything he said to Asylum about him being a loser and all that about his wife should leave him was out of line.

I guess, since I was on Demetri's side in the Joker thread (and still am), that I was only thinking about the hate from that thread clouding judgment here

You managed to insult yourself multiple times without attempting to be self deprecating. That is kind of a super power.

All the best.

I take it back, you can indeed be that dumb

and BTW matey boy, if you do get banned I will consider it a day well spent

Pity that no one has any force to drop Asylum, in real life most likely it would go to court and not only make up would be autocleared but also Demetri would have to pay himself to Asylum for all the damage that he has done (he's such a fan of irl comparisons), but I bet he won't get why. Pity also Demetri doesn't seem like a smart guy and even though most backers would drop Asylum at some point he'll continue to torment him.

It would be so awesome if some baller came in and said that he'd buy the debt only under condition that Demetri is banned from 2+2. That's the best damage that you can do in return for his impressive wallet of horrible behaviors. He clearly won't ever understand what has he done and won't ever feel guilty of anything. There's no law that can harm him in this situation.

And how can you fail at punctuation so badly, you can't even comprehend such a simple concept.