lol read my mind.

Sorry, This can't be true playing like this....

Playing like this.. leads to this...

limping Q9 Q10 on the button with pot odds is not limping crap.

According to the full tilt tounament poker green book,and my coach,and pros in the book like fergusson,lederer,etc,they say its ok to limp a marginal hand like Q9 Q10 once in a while on the button,on the cut off,etc once in a while to mix up game,as long as there is at least 1 limper in front of you,and as long as you have good odds or implied odds

So you might want to go read about that kind of thing by buying that book for about $25 dollars,or by reading some of the articles about that by those pros at Full tilt poker.

fold pre

Ok in this hand I hadnt played in hand since the blinds were 25/50 and the blinds were at 50/100 and were about to go up.My stack was about a 30 x BB stack.I was dealt A10 on the SB.and there was limpers and dead money on the pot,and I didnt want to play a hand like A10 out of position by limping in.And raising it wouldnt be right either.And folding it wouldnt be right either.So since A10 was likely the best hand on the board,since 5 others limped in and didnt raise,and since table was tight,and thus unlikely to get people to limp trap with a QQ to AA hand.I shoved all in with the intent to pick up a 600 chip pot with what was likely the best hand,or if someone did call it would likely be a smaller stack,and it would be a coinflip,or I might even have a A2 type hand dominate,based on all the bad all in calls I had seen people make in the tourney.And if everybody folded,I could show the A10,so that half the people would think I was shoving a monster hand,and half the table would think oh look he shoves weak aces,and thus if shove a AK AQ hand,in the future,might get a looser caller.


Hand#192857BCC2010997 - Freeroll into Millions $250k Satellite T5749954 -- Table 204 -- $0/$50/$100 NL Hold'em -- 2009/07/16 - 07:04:36
Seat 1: Exdi***1 ($2,595 in chips)
Seat 2: choc***2 ($7,447 in chips)
Seat 4: kapo***4 ($4,595 in chips)
Seat 5: MikeDH1 ($3,455 in chips)
Seat 7: duck***7 ($37,828 in chips)
Seat 8: pora***8 ($4,653 in chips)
Seat 10: nead***10 ($3,428 in chips)
MikeDH1: posts small blind 50
Anto***6: posts big blind 100
Dealt to MikeDH1 [Td,Ac]
duck***7: calls 100
pora***8: calls 100
gold***9: folds
nead***10: calls 100
Exdi***1: folds
choc***2: folds
vlad***3: folds
kapo***4: folds
MikeDH1: is all in 3405.0000
Anto***6: folds
duck***7: folds
pora***8: folds
nead***10: folds
nead***10: mucks
MikeDH1: returns uncalled bet 3,355
***SHOW DOWN***
MikeDH1: shows [Td Ac]
MikeDH1: wins 500

Sigh

LOL, mike, FOLD PRE-REGISTRATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

Why is it so hard to figure out that maybe when you ran 15 up to 80 you were running above expectation, and now over time, the fact that you are a losing player is emerging...?

Donked out again by the donkament chip leader donk

after being card dead for a lot of the way,and not being in positions where I could semi bluff pick up pots,and after not hitting the few rare flops I saw,etc I am down to 2700 chips with the blinds up to 75/150.

And I shove 77 and get called by donkleader donk who donks calls with 107 and out I go.

Hand#192857BCC2014192 - Freeroll into Millions $250k Satellite T5749954 -- Table 204 -- $0/$75/$150 NL Hold'em -- 2009/07/16 - 07:17:30
Seat 1: Exdi***1 ($2,770 in chips)
Seat 2: choc***2 ($6,702 in chips)
Seat 4: kapo***4 ($5,377 in chips)
Seat 5: MikeDH1 ($2,730 in chips) DEALER
Seat 7: duck***7 ($39,391 in chips)
Seat 10: nead***10 ($7,781 in chips)
duck***7: posts small blind 75
simb***8: posts big blind 150
Dealt to MikeDH1 [7c,7s]
gold***9: folds
nead***10: calls 150
Exdi***1: folds
choc***2: folds
vlad***3: folds
kapo***4: folds
MikeDH1: is all in 2730.0000
Anto***6: folds
duck***7: calls 2,655
simb***8: folds
nead***10: folds
MikeDH1: shows [7c 7s]
duck***7: shows [7d Td]
*** FLOP *** [Ah,2s,Ks]
*** TURN *** [Js]
*** RIVER *** [Tc]
***SHOW DOWN***
duck***7: wins 5,760 with Pair of Tens
MikeDH1 finished 1364 out of 3550 players.

I will listen to the pros like Chris fergusson and lederer and the books like the Full tilt poker tournament green book,and articles by said pros at full tilt poker site over those to dumb to listen or read what the prose said.

The pros say in the book and in the article,thats its ok to limp in Q9 and Q10 marginal hands on the button,cutoff,with limpers in front,and with pot odds and or implied pot odds,in limited situations,when the blinds are cheap,and when you havent played a hand in a while,and to mix up your game.

My coach has also said much the same thing.And So I will listen to what my coach said,and what the pros say about this,because they are obviously better players than you and know what they are talking about.

And other players who have used the book and the articles have also found that they have improved their game.

So your credibility doesnt stack up to the books,articles,pros,my coach.

But if you want to improve your game you can go get the books,articles,listen the pros,or talk to my coach to.

Yep winning players never ever go on extremely bad runs,or if they do,they must really suck real bad.

There is no such thing as what just happened in the HH I just posted happening over and over and over and over.............................................. ..

There is no such thing as bad luck,its all skill,not luck.

Oh and be sure to tell Chris Fergusson he sucks because it took him 7 months of playing in thousands of freerolls,and getting poker idiot goof off all in butluck donk beat out of all those tourneys,causing him to go on a mother of all monster bad runs,before he finally got his bankroll to stabilize at $6(according to Full tilt poker said in the article) after 7 months of that bs crap,thanks to the All in freaks, who kept on beating him.

I am going to try one last time: the way to beat $1 tournaments is not getting fancy with limping Q9 etc... it is to play simple ABC Tag poker

mike, you are not a winning player, deal with it. i dont think u have the capabillity to beat micros, acceptence is the first step to recovery. mike, you sir are a "MEGA-Donk".

I feel for you.. it's just that I lose as much every day as you've lost lifetime so yeah :P

why exactly did u make this thread when you wont listen to anyones advice here? please go whine in a forum with lederer, ferguson and ur coach.

your such an ignorant person who really deserves to get flamed here

How much did you pay your coach btw?

plz tell me this is a freaking level

Chris ferguson is a ABC Basic fundamentals solid poker nothing fancy TAG tight agressive player. Dumbut.

And its Chris Fergusson who says in the FULL TILT POKER TOURNAMENT GREEN BOOK AND ON THE FULL TILT POKER ARTICLES,that is written to teach ABC basic fundamentals of solid nothing fancy TAG poker etc,its Chris Fergusson who says QOUTE "Its ok once in a while to limp Q9 Q10 marginal(not sucky crap,(marginal)hand when the blinds are low cheap,in position on the button,cutoff,with at least 2 limpers in front,and with pot odds,and with implied pot odds,and when you havent played a hand in a while,to mix up your game."

Also another thing hands like Q9 Q10 are tight when ONLY played how and when Fergusson explained and folding it all other times.

Also another thing hands like Q9 Q10 are in the top 20% or so or thereabout of hands.(I dont know the exact what top percentage of hands bracket Q10 Q9 is in,but the top 20% or so is pretty close)

Limping in the way Chris Fergusson explained and being careful with the hand is not getting to fancy and is still playing solid ABC poker at least according to Chris Fergusson.

Playing this way like Chris Fergusson had suggested doesnt cause you to lose more.In fact it causes you to win more.

And another thing playing this way according to how Chris Fergusson says how to play hasnt caused me to lose over and over and go on this bad run.

Now maybe playing this way has caused me to lose 1 hand per every 1000's of hands I play this way,and has only caused me to lose 1 tourney per every 10 to 100 tourneys I play in.

What has caused the bad run though is that the poker idiot goof off donk beats like the one I posted in the HH have been pretty typical and have been happening like 60% of time and have been knocking me out of tourneys about 60% or so of the time.

thats what has been causing the bad run.Now after all this time during the bad run and now,one thing I am worried about is slipping into tilting and other bad play without realizing it and thus making the bad run even worse.

But limping Q10 and Q9 in the very limited situations like Chris Fergusson says its ok to do,is not what caused the bad run in the first place to happen.

So again you have no credibility vs Chris Fergusson and the FULL TILT POKER TOURNAMENT GREEN BOOK,and articles at FULL TILT POKER.

And the book and articles have helped many players become better players.And many players including players at this forum swear by it.

So I suggest that you read the book,because obviously you need to read it.

can we get this thread stickied please

in after Chris Fergusson

And you as spock would say are not logical and are illogical.

I have used logic,reason,commonsense,and you cant understand logic reason common sense.

And instead of addressing the logic,reason,common sense,examples,comparisions,qoutes from the pros like chris Fergusson,books,articles,that make my point very well and validly,you do what typical people like you do.

Which is to say like a robot "you suck" "you suck" "you suck"

even though you have been proven wrong.

You know it would be nice if Chris Fergusson were to post a comment annoynmously about his experience going 7 months playing thousands of freerolls,to get his bankroll to stabilize at $6

I bet that if he were to post that,and that if he were to post HH's,that people like you would tell Chris Fergusson, "you suck" "you suck" "you suck"

and that you would argue with Chris Fergusson too,and continue to be illogical against Chris Fergusson too.

And it would be so funny if after that he told you showed you and proved who he was and made you the laughing stock of the boards.

Also you know come to think about it,I never ever see you make a valid logical constructive well thought out point.You always seem to troll and flames and tell people who have bad runs,that "you suck" "you suck" "you suck"

Funny your beginning to sound like a broken trolling flaming illogical record

Title suggestion: The read and feel better about yourself thread

i really doubt one of the smartest analytical thinkers in the poker industry would post a HH where he overshoved 50x the pot on the river of a limped pot with top pair on a 4 straight board and then ask why he's not a millionaire yet, but go ahead and keep posting cause this is ****ing hilarious.

FYP

Wow that does put it all in perspective.

And also I am still about $1300 or so to the good over the last 3 years,after losses,buy ins,etc playing offline at the casino,so I should use that and what you say to put the bad run thats happening to me online and in perspective

At least I have cashed in about 45 times out of 115 attempts offline at casinos the last 3 years,and 23 cashes out of 55 tries this year at the casinos,in 50 man $13 to $33 buy in tourneys.

Thanks for your comment.And I wish you the best of luck.