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hof rare jono post. dean bryden is a piece of **** scammer. google and everyone in the community needs to know.

Seemed really public to me so ill just post but the salters had bogan run stuff for quite a while, wondering how much funds he had access to and if there were any problems at the end there?

Being a **** to Rowniwn, LO, Abe etc, basically anyone doing their best to resolve the situation and get to the bottom of it is absolute ridiculous. Their actions have been admirable and in the best interest of everyone, especially considering how tough it is when they were so personally close to Dean. To question what Marc was doing with the funds is also hugely lol.

I have many really good friends.....yet I would never back or defend their complete idiocy. Mainly because I'm not a moron. If I thought one of my good friends was stealing from people why on earth would I ever defend that? Just because your friend has low morals doesn't mean you have to share them lolol.

But whatever, lol 2p2'ers that stick together no matter what! This situation should be closer to "maybe rowniwn should have his marketplace approval looked at because he clearly showed a misuse and disrespect of others money" rather than "stellar job buddy, you handled this great!".

Sorry, but holding people's charity donations, unbeknownst to them, for over 3 months before chirping up is just wrong. It was supposed to be sent and verified the following week! I'm all for giving the guy a little extra time to get his life together but when exactly were you planning on speaking up if others didn't bring this to the communities attention? If anyone that made a substantial donation wasn't completely pissed off hearing that their money meant for charity was still sitting in some dude's Pokerstars account then I'd be shocked.

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Rowniwn has never backed Deans actions ITT so why the **** do you keep saying it you ****.

Welllll, probably because keeping it from the community and from donors IS backing his actions. Maybe you don't want to think something is up after a couple weeks. But you literally have to wait 3-4 months before deciding maybe something is amiss?

You have to agree that holding people's charity donations without their knowledge of it for at least SOME amount of time isn't okay right? Is it cool if he waited up to 6 months, but then it becomes a problem? 1 year? Maybe 2 years, then he can let people know, oh yeah lol, never donated that money I was holding, let me take care of that now. Maybe waiting upwards of 4 months is just acceptable to you supporters?

bro relax.
This thread has made progress in a few areas so far, so there is no need to go on with this type of nonsense or your attacks on Marc.

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Wow, read the thread. Marc has made it pretty clear about his reasons for holding onto the money. Also, this 4 months bs Chinese whispers is getting out of control. Marc was in contact with Dean in mid-december regarding this matter, and he posted back in February that he still had 5k of the donations on hand.

It really isn't unreasonable for someone to wait on instructions from the organizer of the fundraiser on what to do with the money, especially given you would think the entire donation would be made in 1 installment. When attempts at reaching out to Dean became futile, he was completely transparent about the money. When it was decided what to do with those funds, he made arrangements such that it was in the charity's hands within 24 hours of the community making that call. The way you're carrying on, you'd think he lit the money on fire.

Surely he can be forgiven for giving 2 months' grace to a close friend and someone who has a long history of handling huge sums of the community's money in the past. It is a shame that the charity has had to wait a period of time before seeing any money, sure. Having spoken personally to the charity myself, I can assure you that there is no bad blood and they were very understanding about the delay in payment.

/rant from someone who actually donated to this cause. Guess you can be "shocked" now Matt.

Firstly, I know none of these people involved.

2nd, FFS quit beating a dead horse.

Could Rowniwn acted quicker? Maybe. Was he in a tough spot? YES! None of his actions were in any way malicious nor did they exacerbate the situation. No one got further scammed as a result of his brief indecision.

Chill the **** out. This is why they make xanax or valium. I'm not even being sarcastic, I take a small dose of benzo's (prescribed by a psychologist).

And, don't turn this around saying I'm condoning what Dean did. I merely donated $50 because Mental Health is something close to my heart. Dean's a scumbag and I'd be happy to see his head on a totem pole too.

Was dean bryden ever actually handling large sums of money? did the salters (and his other backing groups) ever let him have 10k+ in his accounts at any given point? he was the "manager", but did he really ever have a lot of money in his accounts?

I suppose the horses would listen to him and send money to his account "cause the salters said so". there are so many ways you could basically have 0 money go through deans accounts.


The more i think about all this, the weirder it all seems.


Someone should get marco valerio on this. he seems to like a good story. dean was on there a decent amount of times as well.

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scammers get way to much leniency

Best news ITT was to see that Jono somehow survived the night

I should point out at this point that there's no evidence to suggest Dean stole from the Salters. He set up a couple of smaller staking groups with some friends after leaving them, and scammed his friends.

Zima, I don't think Marco works with QJ anymore. Not a bad idea to get this some media attention though.

For a group of people who make their living being unemotional and objective, there sure are a lot of ridiculous emotional overreactions ITT. It's understandable on the part of people who know Bogan better or got scammed personally, but so far LO and Rowniwn have actually been more or less the two most coherent people in here, irrespective of what anyone might think of their handling of the situation.

I think people need to take a step back and stop arbitrarily siding with or against posters they liked or disliked before this thread emerged. Between the people going "OMG ruin Bogan's life nowwwww" and the people going "OMG leave Marc alone!" not much is really getting done. It's not going to help the community recover from this whole thing for the it to degenerate into a bunch of finger-pointing, rivalries and general butthurtness.

No need to troll.


If I wouldve known that he is boasting about stuff like that he wouldn`t have seen a single cent.

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Also not sure, but aren`t the 6 like entirely he is "own" Money he won and wanted to spend ? Or is it community money too? If so how much?

Once again lots of irrelevant BS being brought up. Not really too sure about specifics but we're all here having a bitch about someone stealing around $25k+ off multiple people because he's never had access to any money. For a clever bloke you really do struggle with the basics.

Well, just trying to get a handle on who dean is as a person and how this all came about. its all relevant to his past and how this all happened.

If people were open and honest with everything in regards to dean, a lot of this would have been avoided (hindsight blah blah blah).


Please help me with the basics though. i am always looking to learn.


And since no one who actually knows anything wants to post any facts, this thread should just turn into a catch all for Dean Bryden scams/questions/whatever. If the thread actually was gonna be a place where things were gonna get resolved (like some people posting some real facts), then it would actually accomplish something.

I appreciate some info is sensitive and guys may feel dumb for getting done over by him or just feel **** in general about being betrayed but ALL relevant info really should be posted.

Anything else is a disservice to the community. Otherwise this is just another case of the aforementioned "circle-jerk" keeping important info within it's own confiness yet again.

We've now learned that everyone in the skype group or w/e were "fully aware" that he was a pathological liar and FOS but that never resulted in anybody within it even hinting as much around here. Instead you all went along with and as a result seemingly (to outsiders) endorsed his 2+2 persona.

If he's stolen another $20k+ on top of the already confirmed $6k or w/e then that needs to be made public so people are made aware exactly how much of a turd the guy is, especially so if as it seems he done over his "mates" in the process.

Again, full disclosure is necessary and at the very least deserved. Keeping info within the circle is only going to do more harm. I dare say if others were privy to the same info the insiders had all along (that he was FOS) they probably wouldn't have donated.

So whether you guys like it or not, anybody who went along with his 2+2 persona while knowing otherwise has somewhat of a shared responsibility and now the obligation to be completely transparent.

I agree that it'd be preferable if the scammed parties came forward, but it's not my (or marc's, or abe's etc) place to disclose stuff when these people specifically asked us not to. One of the guys Dean stole from has been particularly upset by all of this and has asked me to summarise his involvement without naming him, so I'll do that on his behalf later today (I have the small matter of Everton's quarter final to worry about first).

Agree with theginger. Great post

I find this whole thing very sad and I am disgusted by Deans actions.

Nationstation and I (salter bros) worked with bogan from nov 2011 up till june 2012 and afaik he never stole from us.

During this time he didn't have direct access to funds.

We were also backing him at the time (lol) as part of his managing deal and in nov we sold his makeup back to him for 2k which he promised to pay over the following month and he did make one payment of 1k.

I am completely open to discussing all my dealings with Dean and we will both help out however possible.

Anyone that has any relevant info needs to come out ASAP and make it public.