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12-06-2012 , 05:47 AM
You can also keep your opponents guessing if you simply raise your entire Stealing range. That would be much easier to play and much better balanced. You want to let them pay to see the flop when you have a good Hand and you want them to fold if you have a bad Hand. Both is acommplished by raising. The only situation where openlimping can be good is if the opponents in the blinds 3bet very wide and you have a hand that cant call a 3bet.

@sauron92:look at his nickname. He is probably not a Reg who has been coached/has seen many Coaching vids etc. He is probably a recreational player. Your post is just offensive and shows no respect.

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12-06-2012 , 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokernutz1954
This is how I typically deal with an unopened pot when sitting in the button or small blind:

crap hand (eg. 2/7): raise to steal (there is no difference in a QT hand and a 2/7 if you will fold to a re-raise pre flop

speculative/good hand (9/10s, KQ): check (hoping he checks and I hit the flop or I can look to re steal on the flop if he is a tight or passive player or I can call his raise pre flop if it is not too much

Premium hand (AK, KK): do everything (check, raise, push): this simply keeps him guessing

-note:

-obviously this is opponent dependent, for example, I would make a small raise pre flop with 9/10s instead of checking if I knew it was a guy who always folds his BB unless he has a premium pre flop.

-Also note that it depends the blind level as well. I would not be stealing with 2/7 when the blinds are 15/30.

-pocket pairs are always tricky in this spot I find. I set mine with small or even medium pocket pairs when the blinds are small/medium and will often shove if I am short or medium stacked when the blinds are high. High pocket you can do a little bit of everything with

-This is a 6 max STT NLHE

Is this a good overall strategy or any help on dealing with pocket pairs in this spot would be helpful?
This is bizarre and easily exploitable
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12-06-2012 , 08:07 AM
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This is bizarre and easily exploitable
how so?
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12-06-2012 , 08:16 AM
How do you check on the BTN/SB?
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12-06-2012 , 08:29 AM
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How do you check on the BTN/SB?
I take it by check he means call.
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12-06-2012 , 09:14 AM
Stealing is highly situational, a "general strategy" doesn't work, you can create some basics and move on from those though.

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crap hand (eg. 2/7): raise to steal (there is no difference in a QT hand and a 2/7 if you will fold to a re-raise pre flop
This is a mistake in thinking, simply because your opponent can't just 3bet and fold, he can also flat and then your hand does matter. Also you forget about the effect of blockers, stealing with A2 will be working more often than with 35, because the guy has less possible Ax hands which he might raise for value (effect might be small, but it's worth mentioning imho).
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12-09-2012 , 01:07 PM
No Limit Hold'em Tournament T50/T100
Buy-in: $1.32+$0.18 USD Hold'em No Limit
PokerStars
8 players
Formatted by pokercopilot.com - Mac OS X hand history analysis and tracking

Stacks:
UTG - UTG (T3.250)
UTG+1 - UTG+1 (T2.285)
MP - MP (T795)
MP2 - MP2 (T1.235)
CO - CO (T1.365)
BTN - BTN (T1.725)
SB - SB (T1.555)
BB - Hero (T1.290)

Preflop: (T150, 8 players) Hero is BB with T A
2 folds, MP raises to T795 (all-in), 4folds.
Hero??
Well this guy was a kind of a random donkey, but I aways have doubts on those spots, I may be ahead of his push range I think, but should I call in this stage of the tournament? It's not to marginal??
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12-12-2012 , 05:48 AM
Need reads. Prob lean towards calling.
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12-16-2012 , 11:24 PM
BR for 1.5s??
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12-17-2012 , 02:37 PM
hey stt:

I play 6 max turbos on stars.

Currently I 6-table and cascade them.

I also don't play in blocks, so when I bust one I insta re-open (always have 6 tables open)

If I add anymore tables I really struggle at 6-max, I used to 10 table FR cash with no difficulty.

Any tips or suggestions when adding tables? ie tiling, stacking etc?



ideally I'd like to get another 4 in.

tyty
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12-17-2012 , 02:57 PM
stacking is da nutsss
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12-18-2012 , 04:28 AM
Looking to find any people who reg the $3.30 KO's on FTP?

Is the traffic enough to multi/mass table them?

What is the variance like with 90 mans?

Cheers.
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12-18-2012 , 12:19 PM
hey i been wondering for a while. What is your preferred style later in tournaments after the bubble with an average or above average stack. I know you are suppose to be more aggressive but I am really trying to see different perspectives on peoples strategies. I have cashed several both live and online tournaments this year but I seem to be having trouble making a true deep run to the final table and further.
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12-19-2012 , 10:12 AM
I'm having some troubles when playing SNGs lately as when a new table loads into the stack - it initially do not take focus away from the current table on top - BUT when the cards are dealt on the new table and the Fold, Call, Raise buttons come up, (but before it's my turn to act) the latest table I acted on before the one I'm at now, pops up again - and I have to scroll or press the first in line hotkey to get the table I was on up again.

Usually I've eg. just pushed or folded on the latter table so there's no way to act on that to pop up the next table in line that way. It's really, really, really annoying and makes it hard to multitable very efficiently.

Does anyone know what settings need to be changed in the Pokerstars client and/or table ninja?
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12-19-2012 , 12:16 PM
You are way better off posting that in the TN thread imo
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12-19-2012 , 03:39 PM
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You are way better off posting that in the TN thread imo
k, thanks
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12-19-2012 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by lolusernames
Looking to find any people who reg the $3.30 KO's on FTP?

Is the traffic enough to multi/mass table them?

What is the variance like with 90 mans?

Cheers.
Wow, I'd forgotten how much I miss those.

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12-20-2012 , 08:50 AM
I would like to know someone with a more like experience over 5000 what could be expected. I am running 9% at the 3.50 and that is way to much! I think something more reliable is 2% in the long run for hypers specially the higher ones. I have played in total 1314 hypers so far.

Thanks in advance,

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12-20-2012 , 08:55 AM
sharkscope

Last edited by mckrogh; 12-20-2012 at 08:55 AM. Reason: and also, play in the short run!
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12-20-2012 , 08:57 AM
3,50-10%, 7- 6%, 15 - 4%, 30 - 3%, 60 -2%, 100 - 1%, 200 - 0%, or so.

but 5000 isnt longrun, 50k is more reasonable sample. At 3,50 there are many many bad players that arent often seen higher, and most regulars are highly exploitable/making major mistakes, thats why 10% is doable at these stakes (imo)

/oh, and rois i mention are mostly for 6m, in my belief 5%+ is doable for all 9m stakes (but traffic is the issue)

Last edited by dybboss; 12-20-2012 at 09:04 AM. Reason: added "/"
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12-20-2012 , 10:20 AM
Going just from a 9 seat, 9% roi, typical finish distribution you would get a Normal or Gaussian distribution and this would give you a 90% Confidence Interval of

No. Games, Low, High
2500, 4%, 14%
5000, 5.5%, 12.5%
10000, 6.5%,11.5%

If you are well ahead of the population you could easily be on a heater, from these CI's you can see that when a 'true' 9% player plays 5000 games it is reasonably easy for them to actually score a 12.5% roi. It is quite possible that after 5000 games a 6% 'true' roi player scores a 9% by going on a heater.
If you have 9% after 5000 games it is fairly unlikely that you are a 2% player though as this is just outside a 99% CI for 5000 games. It is difficult to be consistant over a large sample, I guess you should hopefully be improving, and the population also may be.
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12-20-2012 , 01:40 PM
Does anyone have any idea of attainable ROI at STT 9man/ Turbos these days? Sites with higher volume: Stars/Tilt at 10,20,30,50s?
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12-20-2012 , 01:46 PM
Probably like 5-8% is good at $10s and 2% at $50s. Don't expect to do better than breakeven at $50s unless you are very very good.
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12-21-2012 , 09:55 AM
Achievable ROI --> see sharkscope leaderboards.
Achievable ROI for most of us --> way lower. Just try, no need to estimate it in advance anyway, that's neither possible nor useful.
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12-23-2012 , 01:10 AM
I went back over the last like 350 or so posts and didn't see the answer to my question, so I'm sorry if this is a re-post, but...

I recently decided to grind up a roll on my own dime playing 45-man turbos and was debating on mixing in some 18 -man turbos, as well. Basically:

- What kind of ROI is sustainable for good regs in the a) $15s b) $30s c) $60s (I couldn't filter for this properly on SS ... #rookie)
- What kind of BI swings are considered 'standard' in these games

Thanks in advance for your help, guys
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