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09-03-2011 , 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MetalSpork
Install the latest version while you wait.

Edit: Open one table and move the boxes to the preferred positions with right mouse button. Then save on the HUD box that pops up when you click start import.

Dunno why selecting preferred seat wouldn't work, but tbh the whole thing sounds a bit screwed to me.
It worked.thank you man
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09-04-2011 , 01:49 AM
Are there any good sngwiz-type freeware programs? My trial period ran out and I'm not sure if I want to invest $99 at the moment.
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09-04-2011 , 03:15 AM
5 player STT (home game), $5 buy in. $15 to first and $10 to second. Two hands to analyze:

Three handed, blinds are 150/300. Blinds going to rise to 300/600 after about 2 more hands.
Hero(T2100) is BB, Villian(T1300) is SB.Dealer(T4100) folds, Villian calls T300. Hero goes all-in with A8o, Villian calls with QTs. Nobody hits, Hero wins and busts Villian. But did Hero make the correct play?

I defend my play, but I am a beginner. A8o is fairly strong three handed, and I would be in a bad spot if he doubled up through the chip leader. I didnt think about it at the time, but in this payout structure one should focus on getting ITM rather than first, since you get $10 for getting to second but only $5 more for getting first.





Second hand:

Two handed ITM, about the 13th hand heads up. Blinds are 300/600. Hero(3300) is SB and Villian(T4200) is BB/Dealer

Villian is a relatively tight player. Hero goes all-in with Q6s. Villian calls with...pocket aces. Nobody hits, Villian wins and busts Hero.

Bad luck that he happened to have aces. I definitely wanted to raise, but a raise of 1 or 2 BB could get me 3bet all-in, or he could call. If I bet more, I'm effectively all-in anyway. With blinds as huge as they were I didnt really think I could fold it. Crushed by aces, but did I make the right play?

Thoughts?
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09-04-2011 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jdawg91
merge traffic is low


gtfo with ps traffic being low
i have to disagree partly. the traffic for my desired mode (9 man stt, turbo) is not very high. of course if im going to play 15$ its more then enough, but 1 buyin higher the traffic allready gets lower and i really dont want to mix 6/9 man tables stacked.


@Lt_Wolf
blindlevel increase 150/300 to 300/600 is very weird. you should consider copying the structure of a pokersite like stars/party etc.
A8o im unsure too
Q6s allin is very fine! if he is tight as you said, expect to win the blinds rougly 75-80% of the times uncontested and if called you might still win.
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09-04-2011 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilbur
Are there any good sngwiz-type freeware programs? My trial period ran out and I'm not sure if I want to invest $99 at the moment.
Unless you aren't planning on playing many SnGs, or simply can't afford it right now, you will not regret parting with that hundo.

You may be able to find a deal/ sign up bonus that allows you to get it cheaper or "free". There's prob even a 2+2 banner with one somewhere.

Edit: ICM Explorer is $20, and you can look at the free Nash Calculator too.

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Originally Posted by Lt_Wolf
I didnt think about it at the time, but in this payout structure one should focus on getting ITM rather than first, since you get $10 for getting to second but only $5 more for getting first.
Another way to look at it is $20 ($10+$10) of the prizepool is awarded for making it into the money since the remaining players are guaranteed at least 2nd, while only $5 is awarded for first.

Last edited by MetalSpork; 09-04-2011 at 11:18 AM.
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09-04-2011 , 04:16 PM
is there a post or thread listing and comparing the blind/speed structures across the major sites? I tried search and the FAQ and failed.
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09-05-2011 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by epix-
i have to disagree partly. the traffic for my desired mode (9 man stt, turbo) is not very high. of course if im going to play 15$ its more then enough, but 1 buyin higher the traffic allready gets lower and i really dont want to mix 6/9 man tables stacked.
Okay.

You're obviously not understanding this.

A $5.50 10 man stt loads once every about 6 mins on Merge. Yes, 1 game fills up in 6 mins during daytime hours. A $11....about 6 go off per hour during the daytime hours.

So as I said, gtfo
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09-05-2011 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MetalSpork
Unless you aren't planning on playing many SnGs, or simply can't afford it right now, you will not regret parting with that hundo.

You may be able to find a deal/ sign up bonus that allows you to get it cheaper or "free". There's prob even a 2+2 banner with one somewhere.

Edit: ICM Explorer is $20, and you can look at the free Nash Calculator too.
I can afford it, but I always cash out from my bankroll to make these poker related purchases and it would be almost 1/5th my roll at the moment. I will buy sngwiz sooner or later as it seems to be the best tool for sngs.

I will also take a look at ICM Explorer and Nash Calculator.

Thank you!
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09-05-2011 , 09:48 PM
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-172994182-2
played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2011-09-05 20:31 until 2011-09-05 20:31

2nd hand of a $5 5man turbo
AJ os

Seat 2: badava (1,380 in chips)
Seat 6: ivanglibota (1,380 in chips)
Seat 7: JuniorSan26 (1,750 in chips)
Seat 9: Tiagaum_AM (1,500 in chips)
Seat 10: tatydt199 (1,490 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
badava posts small blind (10), ivanglibota posts big blind (20),

PRE-FLOP
JuniorSan26 raises to 100, Tiagaum_AM calls 100, tatydt199 folds, badava calls 100, ivanglibota folds.

being to tight folding?
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09-06-2011 , 08:16 AM
since "quitting" from poker (aka fulltilt) im thinking about depositing on stars / start again

now im unsure if sng are really a good gamemode because cashgame look so much juicier.

do you know a good thread about this topic?
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09-07-2011 , 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Lt_Wolf
5 player STT (home game), $5 buy in. $15 to first and $10 to second. Two hands to analyze:

Three handed, blinds are 150/300. Blinds going to rise to 300/600 after about 2 more hands.
Hero(T2100) is BB, Villian(T1300) is SB.Dealer(T4100) folds, Villian calls T300. Hero goes all-in with A8o, Villian calls with QTs. Nobody hits, Hero wins and busts Villian. But did Hero make the correct play?

I defend my play, but I am a beginner. A8o is fairly strong three handed, and I would be in a bad spot if he doubled up through the chip leader. I didnt think about it at the time, but in this payout structure one should focus on getting ITM rather than first, since you get $10 for getting to second but only $5 more for getting first.





Second hand:

Two handed ITM, about the 13th hand heads up. Blinds are 300/600. Hero(3300) is SB and Villian(T4200) is BB/Dealer

Villian is a relatively tight player. Hero goes all-in with Q6s. Villian calls with...pocket aces. Nobody hits, Villian wins and busts Hero.

Bad luck that he happened to have aces. I definitely wanted to raise, but a raise of 1 or 2 BB could get me 3bet all-in, or he could call. If I bet more, I'm effectively all-in anyway. With blinds as huge as they were I didnt really think I could fold it. Crushed by aces, but did I make the right play?

Thoughts?
i like both your plays. the first hand however i would only like if the sb is a bad, beginner-type player who limps his medium hands. obviously considering this is a $5 home game i would think he is just that and wouldnt have a problem shoving A8 because he probably plays pretty straight up, will shove anything better than A8 and limp or fold with hands that are worse, except maybe the best of his range he might limp.

second hand i think youre in that 5ish bb range and dont really have many options. you cant sit around and wait for good cards because youre heads up and the blinds will eat you up. Q6s is fine to just shove, it's not weak enough to fold, and limping in this spot generally puts you at a big disadvantage.
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09-07-2011 , 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tatydt99
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-172994182-2
played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2011-09-05 20:31 until 2011-09-05 20:31

2nd hand of a $5 5man turbo
AJ os

Seat 2: badava (1,380 in chips)
Seat 6: ivanglibota (1,380 in chips)
Seat 7: JuniorSan26 (1,750 in chips)
Seat 9: Tiagaum_AM (1,500 in chips)
Seat 10: tatydt199 (1,490 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
badava posts small blind (10), ivanglibota posts big blind (20),

PRE-FLOP
JuniorSan26 raises to 100, Tiagaum_AM calls 100, tatydt199 folds, badava calls 100, ivanglibota folds.

being to tight folding?
No, fold there every time.
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09-07-2011 , 09:57 AM
Hi guys,

I'm not much of a STT player, I've only focussed on cash games mostly but I wanna swith to STT play for a while.

Anyway..

My question is, is it possible to measure your EV with Pokertracker 3 for SNG's?
I know you can measure it depending on your #hands and #chips, but is this EV measurement correct?

I mean, of course the pot's are bigger at the END of the SNG, so when you lose a flip as a favorite the gap in your EV is way bigger than when you lose a flip in the beginning of the SNG.

So how can you correctly measure the amount of $$$ you are entitled to (EVwise), and not the amount of chips that are in play?

Thanks!
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09-07-2011 , 11:44 AM
It should use ICM instead of Chip EV. I don't know if PT3 does or not though.
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09-08-2011 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Duke0424
i like both your plays. the first hand however i would only like if the sb is a bad, beginner-type player who limps his medium hands. obviously considering this is a $5 home game i would think he is just that and wouldnt have a problem shoving A8 because he probably plays pretty straight up, will shove anything better than A8 and limp or fold with hands that are worse, except maybe the best of his range he might limp.

second hand i think youre in that 5ish bb range and dont really have many options. you cant sit around and wait for good cards because youre heads up and the blinds will eat you up. Q6s is fine to just shove, it's not weak enough to fold, and limping in this spot generally puts you at a big disadvantage.

Regarding the first play: Yeah, he seemed like a pretty weak player. Somewhat easy to read (typical strength=weak, weak=strength--he was staring down his opponent after he made a sizable bet. It was kind of comical how obvious it was that he was bluffing. He also seems pretty tight--one hand he raised it about T150 preflop, I 3bet T400 (slightly more than the pot), and he folded. I had a tight image though, so maybe he sensed strength.

All in all he, and the others, seemed like they have played poker for awhile, but don't necessarily understand the mechanics of the game.

The guy who ended up stacking me with those aces, one hand he hit THE nut full house--he had pocket kings, a king was on the board, and the a pair of 9s or something. At the river it was checked to him, and he checked with what is 99.5% THE best hand. What the ****?
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09-10-2011 , 12:38 PM
Just railing a few of the 100+ sngs and saw this hand...

The guy in the BB is supernova and is up well into 5 figs, he's playing 8 tbls, is this just a misclick??


    Poker Stars, $92.60 Buy-in (75/150 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10541672

    BTN: 295 (2 bb)
    SB: 1,398 (9.3 bb)
    BB: 3,275 (21.8 bb)
    MP: 1,198 (8 bb)
    CO: 2,834 (18.9 bb)

    Preflop:
    2 folds, BTN raises to 295 and is all-in, 2 folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 375 pot
    BTN mucked and won 375 (225 net)



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    09-10-2011 , 01:00 PM
    Looking at "luck adjusted winnings" for tournaments on a new site. How exactly can my luckadjusted winnings be -44 EUR in an 10+1 sng with top prize 42? Does this make any sense at all? edit: I got knocked out in 2nd place in the sng by shoving K6o for 4400 chips (9000 in play) and getting called by 96s that won. Is luckadjusted winnings complete garbage or what?

    HEM thinks I am running like 40 buyins above EV in 65 sngs, and I don't understand it. It has like 7 tournaments where I didn't cash and it considers my EV to be -4 buy ins.... does this make sense? I guess there were several tournaments where I was a huge chipleader but bubbled because I shoved like every hand and villains showed up with very strong hands, but I don't understand still... they're extreme turbo sngs, and I think my play was very standard.

    Can someone comment if luck adjusted winnings are an accurate assessment of your expected winnings? If so I should probably quit playing sngs because I have lower ev-ROI than I thought humanly possible But the numbers seem really weird to me.

    Last edited by roggles; 09-10-2011 at 01:07 PM.
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    09-10-2011 , 02:27 PM
    Not that difficult to run over and over into better hands. Your luck-adjusted winnings take mostly allin-EV into account. Like jdawg already said: You can play perfectly and have a falling-off red-line over large samples. It is not perfectly accurate though, especially for 2+ tables.

    Last edited by siebenacht; 09-10-2011 at 02:32 PM.
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    09-10-2011 , 02:35 PM
    Yeah, but I'm sort of dissing the whole way calculation are made. How is it ever possible to make a mistake that costs 44 EUR in EV when the top prize is 42?
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    09-11-2011 , 01:16 PM
    Hello guys, im starting to get into SNGs (6man) and I am completely clueless what to study. I never read anything related with strategy for sng, what do you guys recomend me to do first??
    There is ICM to learn, moshman's book, harrington on holdem, kill everyone, 2p2 strategy articles, joining a training site, etc.
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    09-12-2011 , 03:06 PM
    Hey new guys, for anyone wanting to win free lessons from Sng pros and help make games (and cashouts) easier, check out this thread.
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    09-13-2011 , 10:22 PM
    feeling dumb about the question allready but whatever:

    13.92+1.08$ pokerstars games
    whats the correct rake percentage?
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    09-14-2011 , 05:35 AM
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    Originally Posted by epix-
    feeling dumb about the question allready but whatever:

    13.92+1.08$ pokerstars games
    whats the correct rake percentage?
    7.2%

    if: 15$ ------> 100%
    1.08$-----> x

    x= (1.08$ x 100 ) /15 = 7.2%
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    09-21-2011 , 01:49 AM
    Curious what ROIs are in the 30s, 60s, and 100s 18 mans, both for avg/good reg, and great reg(great reg defined as top 5 in the games). Thanks for any reply
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    09-21-2011 , 02:22 PM
    Do any of you use the quiz feature in Wiz? I dislike how you can't define you edge in a particular hand until after you've answered the question (wtf???) but I like how toying with ranges afterward seems like a good way to practice.
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