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10-08-2012 , 02:37 PM
Hey guys sry if this has been answered already

I want to start playing 9 man sng and more specifically steps sng

what books do you recommend me to to start reading? and which articles etc

thanks
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10-08-2012 , 06:51 PM
Not sure if there are any videos on the topic. Books will probably be subpar too. Study icm hard, learn its limitations, post hands. GLGLGL.
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10-08-2012 , 10:14 PM
can anybody tell me a site to learn 6 max hyper's (micros) or basics, ive played a 100' an just under 8 bi down, but i almost never get in bad(less than 40%) its those darn backdoors and Ace from space rivers,(holla, if you feel my pain) i like my shove range, its my calling range that i get confused
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10-09-2012 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Regret$
Not sure if there are any videos on the topic. Books will probably be subpar too. Study icm hard, learn its limitations, post hands. GLGLGL.
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but in general 9 man sng videos will help me right?

im also reading the colin moshman sng book
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10-09-2012 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by brooklyn0054
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but in general 9 man sng videos will help me right?

im also reading the colin moshman sng book
For low blinds spots when far off the bubble, a 9m/6m strategy will be fine.
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10-09-2012 , 03:13 PM
Assume you're in a 9man SnG with 50/30/20 payout.
Blinds 10/20, stacks 1500, first hand, no reads.

You're UTG / UTG+1 / MP1 (pot unopened) with a medium to small pp, 22-99.
What are you doing with this range in which of those 3 positions by standard?
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10-09-2012 , 06:01 PM
Hi guys. I'm new to sngs - I've just started playing the 3.50 turbos on stars. I played poker a couple of years back (fr nlhe cash) but I'm looking to try something different.

Just wondering if anybody has any tips on how to actually carry out a sng session review? I have just played a few sngs and have marked hands in HEM - I'll go back through them and post any interesting spots on here.

is that about standard?

The only issue with that is that from 18 sngs i have marked 20+ hands and I don't want to clutter the forum.

Any advice appreciated!!
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10-11-2012 , 04:13 PM
Just select the two most interesting hands and post them. Tomorrow you take another two interesting hands and so on...
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10-13-2012 , 12:23 PM
Is it ok to open up a thread where I ask for ppl to review a session of mine at the 18man?
ppl do that?

Can someone help me improve my game by doing so?
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10-15-2012 , 12:08 PM
iPoker - $10.00+$1.00|<> NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 10,947.00
BB: 9,125.00
Hero (BTN): 6,928.00

SB posts SB 400.00, BB posts BB 800.00

Pre Flop: (pot: 1200.00) Hero has T K

Hero raises to 6,928.00, SB raises to 10,947.00, fold

Flop: (14656.00, 2 players) Q 2 A

Turn: (14656.00, 2 players) 3

River: (14656.00, 2 players) 5

This is my first thread, not sure if this HH exported from PT4 will display as it should on the forum, sorry if not (and i kindly request advice on how to do this)

wondering if with only 7.5BB there is better option than pushing all in? vilians had vpip26/pfr13, vpip26/pfr18.

if there is anything wrong with how i went about posting this thread i apologize for being a noob and welcome instructions on how to improve.
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10-23-2012 , 08:13 AM
so on revolution hyper 6 mans start with 300 chips but pstars is 500, almost all vids on 6max hypers are 500 starting stack, is there any adjustments in early stages needed
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10-24-2012 , 12:55 PM
any books or vids on STT/turbo/50-50 for omaha?

What is suggested BR for omaha tournies?
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10-24-2012 , 02:05 PM
If you are learning then probably like 75 buy in or something. Omaha is a tougher game because in a normal STT you need >60% equity in lots of spots but Omaha hand equities run closer together than in holdem. Given exact same toughness of game you will have more swings in Omaha I think. That said games maybe easier and less might be ok. Suggested buyin for holdem for ametuers is like 50-100 buyin (100 for higher than $10 sngs).

If you are playing for a living then maybe 2-3x is required, but a player gotta do what a player gotta do. If you are disciplined in dropping down in stakes, then shotting a new level can be ok with as few as 35 buyin, but if you lose 10 buyin then move back down ASAP.
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10-24-2012 , 02:10 PM
Also, you should be able to check the finish distributions for Omaha Stts in Sharkscope and that should work exactly the same for checking the probabilities of diff downswings in ROI simulator. So maybe check out some of that software and it can find the answer for you.
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10-28-2012 , 09:50 AM
So im trying to take my sng game to the next level. Unfortunately its level 1, I want to learn the most i can, to get a good ROI. what training site do you recommend for just low stakes/mirco stt 9 man turbos,there run the most frequently on the site i play
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10-28-2012 , 11:07 AM
umm will the sttf strategy for the party 10+1, 9 man have a good chance of 500 games in the 1.50+.10?

just wondering with the difference in player quality, i thought being tight meant playing less hands altogether, where i should of been trying to maintain and avg stack, instead of folding every weak hand from every position

sry for minny rant but feels like EYES R OPEN
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10-29-2012 , 11:38 AM
GL buddy welcome to sttf, post hands and strat questions and you will learn quickly. Another good place to start is the FAQ at the top of the page it truly is a wealth of knowledge.
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10-29-2012 , 05:01 PM
200/400 No Limit Hold'em Tournament (4 Handed)
Hand recorder for this hand: PokerStrategy.com SideKick 1.0.51016.3

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, J
BB pays ante (25), Hero pays ante (25), 2 pays ante, SB posts small blind (200), BB posts big blind (400), Hero raises for 3674 and is all in, BU 3-bets 4411 and is all in, 2 folds, BU gets uncalled back (737)

Flop: (8048 - 20.12 bb) T, 9, 2 (2 Players)

Turn: (8048 - 20.12 bb) Q (2 Players)

River: (8048 - 20.12 bb) 5 (2 Players)


I had an argument with another SNG grinder, who is probably better than me. In this spot, most calculators suggest 31-41% pushing range, but his opinion is that because the players can make bad calls, we should shrink our range to something like 6.9% 99+,AJ+,ATs+,KQs.

I disagree, and I prefer to stick with the Nash ranges without any specific information.

What is your take on this spot?
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11-01-2012 , 01:17 AM
Nowadays what is considered ... (1)good (2)very good ROI are $3.50 and $7 6max one table sng?

I know anything above 0 is winning but these games are soft enough although I havnt played enough to see what my ROI is and I was thinking what is a good one,an average one or what would be substainable?

Im a winning player with %30 ROI in mtt and sng over 2k games but thats according to sharkscope so cant get my 6max stats.
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11-01-2012 , 01:55 AM
10% is crushing really hard. I'd guess a good goal over >5k games would be like 5%. Really breaking even before rakeback is great now a days. Learn and play, play and learn. Eventually can play higher. $5s are never going to amount to more than pocket change unless you 30+ table. The goal is to make a little money while gearing up your skill set for higher games.
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11-01-2012 , 03:31 AM
got a tax refund from full tilt

so i´m thinking of playing some turbo 9handed holdem sitandgos and running my money up. bankroll is 50 bucks. what buy ins should i play, how many tables to start on averige, when to move higher, is HEM also beneficial in this format?

last time ran my 50 up in 2-7 triple draw and 8-game cash games
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11-02-2012 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Regret$
10% is crushing really hard. I'd guess a good goal over >5k games would be like 5%. Really breaking even before rakeback is great now a days. Learn and play, play and learn. Eventually can play higher. $5s are never going to amount to more than pocket change unless you 30+ table. The goal is to make a little money while gearing up your skill set for higher games.
Thannks for the reply.I feel iv an edge at the $3.50's and prob the $7 but variance is a pr*ck.

Would hope to be playing $15 ones regularly but as you said it takes time.And also you mentioned 5k games. Im nowhere near that so I need to get my head back sorted if I dont cash in 5-10 games in a row.

Thats where I go wrong.I start thinking I'm playing bad or doing something wrong when it's just variance and simple variance.Some people go on huge downswings so I cant be feeling sorry for myself.
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11-02-2012 , 06:27 AM
Hi guys, playing the $1.50 SNG's, and a question about being in either SB or BB and facing an all-in steal attempt - what is a good range to call with if I don't have many HUD stats on them? Thanks
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11-03-2012 , 12:17 PM
    Poker Stars, $6.45 Buy-in (100/200 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14404691

    MP: 7,310 (36.6 bb)
    CO: 1,100 (5.5 bb)
    BTN: 2,200 (11 bb)
    SB: 1,390 (7 bb)
    Hero (BB): 1,500 (7.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 7
    MP raises to 400, 3 folds, Hero raises to 1,500 and is all-in, MP folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 900 pot
    Hero mucked 7 7 and won 900 (500 net)



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    According to SnG Wizard I should fold here, but it's only 2 players in the pot, pot is 50 % of my stack and I should built stack before bubble... So what's the right decision here?
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