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02-14-2017 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NoQuarter
You need to come to Philadelphia
Please avoid anythign that can sound like a threat of violence
02-14-2017 , 02:46 PM
The far right only like Milo because it helps them legitimize their "movement".

"Oh look we have a gay guy on our side, we're not that bad."

Right wing religious conservatism is still jointly tied to the hip AGAINST gay rights up and down the courts denying gay marriage. Just because Milo is singing praises about Trump doesn't mean the right is suddenly pro gay rights.

He says outrageous garbage to get headlines:

"If the left knew how much black dick I sucked they wouldn't call me a white supremacist" or whatever. He knows what language he is using to create controversy and develop his niche. Like a Kim Kardashian, or a Paris Hilton releasing sex tapes.

Milo is all about the $$$$$ and doesn't give a damn about anything else. Long threads like this with thousands of posts about him is exactly what this guy craves. 2000 posts later, what the hell conversation did we just have about? 2000 posts about literally nothing.

Last edited by Tien; 02-14-2017 at 02:54 PM.
02-14-2017 , 03:21 PM
I don't agree with everything he says, but he is certainly entertaining and I enjoy watching his videos.
02-14-2017 , 03:53 PM
If you can understand why people like Skip Bayless and Stephen a Smith get paid so much on ESPN, you will understand why Milo is doing what he is doing. And I must admit, those two personalities are often times fun to watch when they go off the walls.

In America, its all about out sized personalities, making boisterous comments. Sometimes they are correct, but don't be confused to think they mean exactly what they say.
02-14-2017 , 06:06 PM
Skip is annoying as **** too. Cowboys fans. Eww.
02-14-2017 , 06:40 PM
Wil is like the Milo of Politics 7.0.

1. Flamboyant
2. Controversial
3. Kinda racist.
4. Incoherent at times.
5. Buttloads of cock.
02-14-2017 , 07:28 PM
wow...


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Originally Posted by TheMadcap
We aren't on different teams. Ultimately, we both want the same things and we just disagree on how to get there. Stop with this tribal ****.

If you can show me a post where wil says police brutality is good then I would be more inclined to believe that he is racist. I'm guessing you won't and what you said is a mischaracterization of his position.
02-14-2017 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Wil is like the Milo of Politics 7.0.

1. Flamboyant
2. Controversial
3. Kinda racist.
4. Incoherent at times.
5. Buttloads of cock.
I'm much better looking than Milo.
02-14-2017 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
I highly doubt you were banned simply for your position.

There's a middle ground in which one can appreciate the job officers do and defend their actions in some cases while still conceding they step over the line way too often and commit downright criminal offenses at times.
I never saw this post until now. I'll respond.

Your assumption here is that I only took one side of the argument. I did not, because I was not allowed by the absolutists like Fly. My position has always been that I dislike the police, and I spent time speaking out against them. I think they are too heavy-handed at times and can diffuse situations more often than they do.

That being said, I have no choice but to support them, in general. They are an absolute necessity because without security, people have nothing. You must be able to have some sort of safety and security in your community. Like with many things, there is a tradeoff. No one wants dirty cops killing or framing people, no one. Yet, due to the nature of the job there must be some level of leeway given to them because they are put into no-win situations. As much as I dislike it, they need the benefit of the doubt. That means some of them will absolutely take advantage of that and they will cover for each other due to the nature of the job.

I've spent countless posts trying to explain this to people, yet it turned into claims of me secretly supporting cops over all else, and that I actually love the police because I would not side with the position of people like Fly.

Now, you make this statement that I should be able to take some sort of middle ground, my rebuttal is I was not allowed to have one. I supported police, therefore I was a racist, therefore I supported racial suppression because minorities disproportianately live in the inner cities.

That's what happened, and if you don't believe me you are welcome to go back and read the evolution of the thread that got me banned. If you don't choose to do so, then that's fine too. What's done is done.
02-14-2017 , 08:49 PM
I forgot:

6. Super-popular with white nationalists.
02-14-2017 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
I forgot:

6. Super-popular with white nationalists.
Put me back on ignore, please.
02-14-2017 , 09:47 PM
You are literally saying cops have to be allowed to murder people once in a while to do their job and that's bull****.
02-14-2017 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
You are literally saying cops have to be allowed to murder people once in a while to do their job and that's bull****.
I've never said this. And this is why arguing with you people is fruitless. This is the same thing as when you said I supported child abuse.

And this, my friends, is why arguing on the internet is a waste of time.
02-14-2017 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466

That being said, I have no choice but to support them, in general. They are an absolute necessity because without security, people have nothing. You must be able to have some sort of safety and security in your community. Like with many things, there is a tradeoff. No one wants dirty cops killing or framing people, no one. Yet, due to the nature of the job there must be some level of leeway given to them because they are put into no-win situations. As much as I dislike it, they need the benefit of the doubt. That means some of them will absolutely take advantage of that and they will cover for each other due to the nature of the job.
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I've never said this.
You literally just did.
02-14-2017 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
You literally just did.
No, I didnt. You don't know how to read. All you had to do is read the next 2 sentences.

You don't understand anything. Again, why do I have to explain how the world works to you?
02-14-2017 , 10:36 PM
No where in the paragraph do you say "we should strive for better trained police who don't murder citizens" you say, "things are tough out there, we're going to have to let the cops murder some people, it's just the way it is."
02-14-2017 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
No where in the paragraph do you say "we should strive for better trained police who don't murder citizens" you say, "things are tough out there, we're going to have to let the cops murder some people, it's just the way it is."
I've NEVER SAID THIS. What is wrong with you that you can't understand simple logic? One is a possible CONSEQUENCE of allowing something to occur. Jesus what is so hard to understand about this?

I support nightclubs being allowed to have security (bouncers). Across the united States there are many many bouncers. Due to the nature of their jobs and there being many physical altercations there will absolutely be some deaths because we understand it can happen. Does that mean I support bouncers killing people?

Why do you do this with EVERY argument? You can't see how ridiculous you are being? Police get leeway, it's been decided in the courts due to the nature of their jobs. They are allowed a certain amount of discretion in how they approach things, especially in high crime areas. It's not my opinion it's the opinion of judges in our country. Does that mean judges support racism or racial oppression because they deem circumstances may be different in certain areas?

Cops consider themselves part of a group, and that means they have comraderie and loyalty to each other. Sometimes that manifests in very bad ways, like covering up for each other. No one supports cops doing illegal things but due to the nature of the job and the weaknesses of us as human beings we can be pretty sure it's going to occur. Does that mean we shouldn't have a police force?

Christ.
02-14-2017 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
You literally just did.
That is such an uncharitable interpretation of what he wrote.

Why not read it like this:

Cops, at times, can be faced with incredibly high stakes decisions that they are forced to make quickly. Because they are not super human, sometimes the benefit of hindsight will allow people to scrutinize that decision to a degree that the cop was never afforded and based on that level of scrutiny, a better course of action emerges. We can then decide that, while the cop didn't act perfectly, he acted reasonably given the information that he had at the time and shouldn't therefore be culpable.

Now where a cop is deemed to have acted unreasonably, we should make sure he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
02-14-2017 , 10:53 PM
It's just absurdity and stupidity out of kerowo because of his dislike for me.

Again, it's why arguing on the internet is total waste of time. He's either too stupid to talk to or being totally disingenuous, and neither is worthy of further engagement.
02-14-2017 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMadcap
That is such an uncharitable interpretation of what he wrote.

Why not read it like this:

Cops, at times, can be faced with incredibly high stakes decisions that they are forced to make quickly. Because they are not super human, sometimes the benefit of hindsight will allow people to scrutinize that decision to a degree that the cop was never afforded and based on that level of scrutiny, a better course of action emerges. We can then decide that, while the cop didn't act perfectly, he acted reasonably given the information that he had at the time and shouldn't therefore be culpable.

Now where a cop is deemed to have acted unreasonably, we should make sure he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
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No one wants dirty cops killing or framing people, no one.
This is a strong negative, he could stop here and people wouldn't think twice.

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Yet, due to the nature of the job there must be some level of leeway given to them because they are put into no-win situations.
And here he walks it all back because their job is "hard." What is he walking back again? "dirty cops killing" "dirty cops framing" Saying there is an acceptable level of this because that's the way things are. It is weak and scared. It's assuming the status quo is the only way things can be and what can you do? It's bull**** and should be called out as such.
02-14-2017 , 11:03 PM
The leeway is built into the job itself. Like with most jobs.
02-14-2017 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
This is a strong negative, he could stop here and people wouldn't think twice.

And here he walks it all back because their job is "hard." What is he walking back again? "dirty cops killing" "dirty cops framing" Saying there is an acceptable level of this because that's the way things are. It is weak and scared. It's assuming the status quo is the only way things can be and what can you do? It's bull**** and should be called out as such.
The only logical conclusion here is you don't understand how the English language works. No where did I mention anything about criminal activity by police to go unpunished or be allowed, only that we can probably assume it may occur. Once proven, it should be prosecuted.

You truly are a stupid person who can't understand really simple things.

Life is hard. It's harder when you're stupid.
02-14-2017 , 11:09 PM
"Putting out fires is hard as a normal dude. I'm gonna need some leeway. Can I use a big-ass truck and big-ass hoses and have access to the fire hydrants to get that sweet water easily, and carry axes and other stuff?"

"You got it, boss."

"Thanks."
02-14-2017 , 11:11 PM
Jfc no it's not. That's why wil is fat and happy.


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Originally Posted by wil318466
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Life is hard. It's harder when you're stupid.
02-15-2017 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMadcap
If you can show me a post where wil says police brutality is good then I would be more inclined to believe that he is racist. I'm guessing you won't and what you said is a mischaracterization of his position.
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Originally Posted by me
I'm not going to play this game with you, obviously you're going to TOEFL it up, play dumb(mixed with a healthy dose of actually being dumb), and just be insanely skeptical and contrarian. This is not a new trick from you guys, the endless demands for citations and then pedantic contradiction is ****ing played out.
a post where wil endorses the value of police killing people with impunity is provided by someone who gave Madcap the benefit of the doubt

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Originally Posted by TheMadcap
That is such an uncharitable interpretation of what he wrote.

Why not read it like this:

Cops, at times, can be faced with incredibly high stakes decisions that they are forced to make quickly. Because they are not super human, sometimes the benefit of hindsight will allow people to scrutinize that decision to a degree that the cop was never afforded and based on that level of scrutiny, a better course of action emerges. We can then decide that, while the cop didn't act perfectly, he acted reasonably given the information that he had at the time and shouldn't therefore be culpable.

Now where a cop is deemed to have acted unreasonably, we should make sure he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
I'm ****ing shocked.

P.S. Even this rewrite is, in context, literally a defense of police brutality lol you're so ****ing stupid you literally cannot conceive that some people are sincerely NOT racist, you think we're all as awful as you. But we're not! You're human ****ing garbage, just like wil.

      
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