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05-12-2017 , 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
I'll try this one last time.

Can somebody quote this post so wil sees it?

I'll back anybody here, who wil labels as dumb or stupid, in a bet about said dumbness or stupidity. Obviously I R SMRTR THAN U bets are ridiculous but wil zeroed in on 'understand(ing) English' and reading comprehension so that changes the dynamic considerably. Something like an SAT/ACT/GRE test, the 'reading' portions, or something similar can do the trick.

I'll even exclude myself to spare another LG incident.
QF wilch
05-12-2017 , 08:47 AM
I'll do an avatar prop bet that says wil had a higher SAT score than 5ive, who wants in?
05-12-2017 , 10:20 AM
That sounds fun. For how long will I be forced to endure some strange avatar?

Last edited by well named; 05-12-2017 at 10:20 AM. Reason: Tapatalk sig wtf
05-12-2017 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
wil, no one here thinks you won this bet, apart from the chromosonally challenged, because you were too stupid to see the difference between two words (which was what the bet was about).

If you want to suggest some arbiters, go ahead.
Oh no, son, plenty of people think I won. You are the one avoiding ending this.

If I was going to pick arbiters it would be someone I think is unbiased towards either of us. All I ask is they read the thread.

You pick a few names and we can go from there. Obviously people who've weighed in already can't be picked (unless they have been neutral so far, like well named). People like hastendan or trolly obviously can't be picked. I was thinking maybe someone who doesn't even post here.
05-12-2017 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
That sounds fun. For how long will I be forced to endure some strange avatar?
I say a month, let Jalfreizi arbitrate (can't really see how there'd be any dispute, but w/e). Are you game?

Kinda think I have the wrong end of this bet, but who cares.
05-12-2017 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I say a month, let Jalfreizi arbitrate (can't really see how there'd be any dispute, but w/e). Are you game?
booked. May the odds be ever in your favor
05-12-2017 , 11:01 AM
OK, wil & 5ive, gonna need your SAT scores.
05-12-2017 , 11:05 AM
If you need an incentive I'll tell you mine so you can make fun of my math ineptitude
05-12-2017 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I will not deny that I can be a very unpleasant fellow, so I can see the animosity towards me, especially for people who can't put my behavior into context through the history of this forum.

But for you to think toothsayer is in any way uneducated or unintelligent is just comical. You'd be a fool not to at least contemplate things he says that challenge your lines of thought.

There are very few people like him, who look at the world through evidence and logic over emotion and ideology. On top of that they can articulate their viewpoints. Juan is similar. Both of them are in the top tier of posters on this entire site, it doesn't surprise me people like you don't recognize that. Because you are a stupid person.

When I say something like "Juan is worth thirty of you", that's not really a joke.
juan and tooth are absolutely horrible at providing evidence. they make so many false claims it is incredible. I mean, juan just straight up make stuff up.

tooth is indeed more insidious bc he does use facts and evidence. he just uses it a clearly improper and fallacious manner. anyone with half a brain can see how tortured his logic really is.
05-12-2017 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Oh no, son, plenty of people think I won...
Yeah, but those plenty are (a) mostly the deplorable idiots, and (b) are mostly saying that the spelling error is an angle-shoot, therefore you won.

But, (b) doesn't make any sense, as has been pointed out multiple times. Also, jalfrezi has made clear he considers the bet to be solely about the spelling error.

The terms you are offering here are themselves completely biased. Again, if I was jalfrezi, I'd insist that the arbitrator(s) be mandated to decide the two underlying questions at hand, and certainly not mandated to "just read the thread, and decide who won".

As for the avatar bet... the loser should have to have an avatar cropped from that infamous pix of a certain child holding a "fly sucks" sign. Cropped to exclude that innocent child, of course.
05-12-2017 , 12:08 PM
lol wil
05-12-2017 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
juan and tooth are absolutely horrible at providing evidence. they make so many false claims it is incredible. I mean, juan just straight up make stuff up.

tooth is indeed more insidious bc he does use facts and evidence. he just uses it a clearly improper and fallacious manner. anyone with half a brain can see how tortured his logic really is.
Then we have a real dilemma here. As much as I disagree with you I can't deny you may actually think this is true.

Obviously one of us is wrong. I would argue simply from the responses of people it's pretty easy to tell who is correct, but I don't see how we could come to a decision.
05-12-2017 , 12:19 PM
Juan linking to an online personality test when asked to source his speculations on psychology was the time I realised he wasn't just ducking citations, he genuinely doesn't know what one is.

But great that Team Wil is full of such academics.
05-12-2017 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Then we have a real dilemma here. As much as I disagree with you I can't deny you may actually think this is true.

Obviously one of us is wrong. I would argue simply from the responses of people it's pretty easy to tell who is correct, but I don't see how we could come to a decision.
It seems like if we were going by the responses of people, it would not support you.
05-12-2017 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TiltedDonkey
It seems like if we were going by the responses of people, it would not support you.
Look at the responses by the posters. It is of no surprise that the idiot crew is on one side.

Do you consider people like Kerowo and Samsonh intelligent posters, or unbiased in any way? Lol.

Go ahead, make a little list of who is on what side and let's compare the quality of the people who took those sides. It's comical. Even Fly didn't side with dirtbag Jalfrezi.
05-12-2017 , 01:24 PM
wil, every single regular poster here with the possible exceptions of mongodogdoohdah and BS is more intelligent than you, and even they are a coin flip against you.
05-12-2017 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Look at the responses by the posters. It is of no surprise that the idiot crew is on one side.

Do you consider people like Kerowo and Samsonh intelligent posters, or unbiased in any way? Lol.

Go ahead, make a little list of who is on what side and let's compare the quality of the people who took those sides. It's comical. Even Fly didn't side with dirtbag Jalfrezi.
I'm a bit confused. When you said "look at people's responses" did you mean, look at the responses, then sort by intelligence and bias, then try to make some sort of dubious decision about who is correct?

I don't particularly think anyone is unbiased.
05-12-2017 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
wil, every single regular poster here with the possible exceptions of mongodogdoohdah and BS is more intelligent than you, and even they are a coin flip against you.
Yeah, proven liars and scumbags? People like aofrantic? Trolly? Kerowo?

Bahah. No rational person could even begin to think you are in any way honest here. But, that's usual for you because you're a dirtbag deadbeat.
05-12-2017 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Oh no, son, plenty of people think I won. You are the one avoiding ending this.

If I was going to pick arbiters it would be someone I think is unbiased towards either of us. All I ask is they read the thread.

You pick a few names and we can go from there. Obviously people who've weighed in already can't be picked (unless they have been neutral so far, like well named). People like hastendan or trolly obviously can't be picked. I was thinking maybe someone who doesn't even post here.
Feel free to go ahead and suggest some arbiters.

I'm very unlikely not to veto anyone who I'm not confident is intelligent and impartial.
05-12-2017 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Yeah, proven liars and scumbags? People like aofrantic? Trolly? Kerowo?

Bahah. No rational person could even begin to think you are in any way honest here. But, that's usual for you because you're a dirtbag deadbeat.
Those three and all the other Trollys are all more intelligent than you.
05-12-2017 , 01:48 PM
It really seems like your post could be more accurately stated as:

"I would argue simply from the responses of people who agree with me it's pretty easy to tell who is correct"
05-12-2017 , 01:48 PM
Intelligence (in the sense of raw ability) is over-rated imo. Education, critical thinking skills, media and information literacy, and the ability to integrate diverse information into some kind of coherent perspective are all more important, have to be learned, can be learned even if you're only modestly intelligent, and do not come automatically even to the very intelligent.

Granted, I guess people often say "intelligent" as a short-hand to refer to some combination of all of that. But then we whip out IQ or test scores as measures, but they don't measure the important stuff :P
05-12-2017 , 01:50 PM
IQ test for rolls?
05-12-2017 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
I'm unlikely to veto anyone intelligent and impartial.
Sry, the nit inside couldn't help himself.

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Originally Posted by well named
Intelligence (in the sense of raw ability) is over-rated imo. Education, critical thinking skills, media and information literacy, and the ability to integrate diverse information into some kind of coherent perspective are all more important, have to be learned, can be learned even if you're only modestly intelligent, and do not come automatically even to the very intelligent.

Granted, I guess people often say "intelligent" as a short-hand to refer to some combination of all of that. But then we whip out IQ or test scores as measures, but they don't measure the important stuff :P
This is all true once a certain threshold is met. Hard work trumps intelligence nearly every time.
05-12-2017 , 01:54 PM
Eh honestly I think both are pretty important. There are a lot of stupid people out there.

Like, for example, if wil were the hardest working person ever, I bet he would still be a dumbass.

      
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