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05-12-2017 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Before I go away, let it be recorded that I've agreed to arbitration under fair and open rules, but wil has refused it.
Haha. Gee, jalfrezi makes demands before he goes on vacation and then demands certain rules apply.

Hahahahahahahaha. Who in their right minds thinks you aren't a dirtbag right now? Fair and open rules, what, 6 days later, when you've done everything to avoid arbitration?

You're a lying, dirtbag welcher. Go to your ****ty vacation, loser.
05-12-2017 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
I missed this.

I'd say that any attempt by wil or myself to contact an arbiter, either directly or indirectly, using any medium, on any matter at all, until their decision has been released, should result in the bet being lost regardless of their or any other arbiter's decision; and that this clause must be communicated to the arbiters at the outset.
No one will agree to be an arbiter due to cost of backlash. You and Wil also will not come to a consensus on vetos.

Arbiters must be anonymous.

You can set something up like 10 names each that you dont want ahead of the designated arbiter selector making his choices.
05-12-2017 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Swedish neo-Nazi supporter who's terrified that Muslims are coming to take away his jobs and women and commit lots of crime.

Search for "immigrants" or "Muslims" in P8.8 and you'll see the output of his mind.
You forgot about the no go zones where gangs of rape culture indoctrinated muslims are roaming around waiting for any poor snow white native to stumble over to so that they can attack.

Oh ya and the swedish govt suppresses any knowledge of such a situation.
05-12-2017 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
That's your opinion.

In a court of law the jury is visible and the judge can direct them.

If well named is happy to take this role, I trust him to do a fair job.
It's a completely reasonable position. The only person being unreasonable in this entire thread is you, because you are lying scum who associates with other lying scum. You throwing out all opinions you disagree with is laughable. Amoeba has no stake in this bet, do you think he's trying to influence it in either direction, you mouth breather?

Again, people, this is why you don't enter bets with leftist dirtbag on 2+2, because they are dishonest and will do everything they can to avoid paying up. You people are really just deplorable. The lack of integrity is astonishing.
05-12-2017 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
That's your opinion.

In a court of law the jury is visible and the judge can direct them.

If well named is happy to take this role, I trust him to do a fair job.
You're not the judge. If the designated arbiter selector wants to frame the case as you stated, thats ok. However, the designated arbiter selector's opinion on the framing should not be known by either you or Wil.

Juries dont give reasoning when they give their ruling.
05-12-2017 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by amoeba
No one will agree to be an arbiter due to cost of backlash. You and Wil also will not come to a consensus on vetos.

Arbiters must be anonymous.

You can set something up like 10 names each that you dont want ahead of the designated arbiter selector making his choices.
This would give wil an unfair advantage in that he's frequented more forums here over a longer time span than I have, and therefore has more information about who is likely to be prejudiced against him (which is probably pretty much everyone who's ever come into contact with the odious one, but that's beside the point).
05-12-2017 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by amoeba
You're not the judge.

Juries dont give reasoning when they give their ruling.
You misread my post. I suggested that well named could act as judge directing the jury.
05-12-2017 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by amoeba
No one will agree to be an arbiter due to cost of backlash. You and Wil also will not come to a consensus on vetos.

Arbiters must be anonymous.

You can set something up like 10 names each that you dont want ahead of the designated arbiter selector making his choices.
This is obviously correct. Anyone with half a brain can understand why we need to just both trust one person to handle this fairly and stay out of the process.

Jalfrezi is just too dumb to understand how this whole thing works because he's an idiot.
05-12-2017 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I have read about it a bit, and I don't believe it's a true gauge of intelligence, or even success. If you are referring to leadership qualities or ability to influence other people, I agree with you, EQ is an important aspect. As far as raw intelligence, I don't find it useful. Truly, people who are fantastically bad at connecting with others can be tremendously intelligent.
I mean, i said the same about raw intelligence.

My point was that researchers think that eq may be a better indicator of success, happiness, and make a person a better and more productive employee.
05-12-2017 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
This would give wil an unfair advantage in that he's frequented more forums here over a longer time span than I have, and therefore has more information about who is likely to be prejudiced against him (which is probably pretty much everyone who's ever come into contact with the odious one, but that's beside the point).
Is this really true? Why don't you take a quick peek at my posting history and what forums I've frequented lately, you idiot.
05-12-2017 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
This would give wil an unfair advantage in that he's frequented more forums here over a longer time span than I have, and therefore has more information about who is likely to be prejudiced against him (which is probably pretty much everyone who's ever come into contact with the odious one, but that's beside the point).
What you are implying is that if you went to trial against say Hitler, Hitler would have an advantage over you.
05-12-2017 , 06:19 PM
Congrats to Milo. Well earned, handsome!
05-12-2017 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
I mean, i said the same about raw intelligence.

My point was that researchers think that eq may be a better indicator of success, happiness, and make a person a better and more productive employee.
Again, I think we are discussing two different things. Happiness and productivity aren't really what's being discussed.

Whenever IQ is discussed all of these other topics get introduced because it is so politicized. The people doing these studies have improved their methods to get rid of as much noise as possible. EQ is just another layer of that noise.

IQ is extremely important and some people believe it's the most important single factor in assessing a person's chance of success. I don't see an issue with that, even though I have seen countless examples that may go against it.
05-12-2017 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by amoeba
What you are implying is that if you went to trial against say Hitler, Hitler would have an advantage over you.
It's obvious that if this were a popularity contest I would lose. All I want is fair and unbiased people to determine the winner. I don't even want to know who the hell they are.

Christ, jalfrezi is scum.
05-12-2017 , 06:30 PM
Having said everything earlier about the framing of the case evidence wise, I also dont agree in not allowing a no bet result.

A no bet may very well be the most reasonable and just verdict.
05-12-2017 , 06:32 PM
He insisted he won, not that there should be "no bet".

Since he insisted, i suggested we take it out of the judgment. He did not disagree.
05-12-2017 , 06:33 PM
Obviously jalfrezi has been stalling all this time until he went on vacation so his broke ass didn't have to cough up 200 dollars before his trip.


Lol. I was wondering why it took him so long to address this.
05-12-2017 , 06:34 PM
If it was up to me, I would allow any verdict in the -200 to +200 range.
05-12-2017 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Aofrantic was proven in multiple instances to lie, in a bet that he couldn't be proven he ever lied. Again, he came up with this silliness, got smacked, and disappeared.

Defending him at this point is pretty laughable.
I know all the words in that post were spelled correctly and are hard for you to understand, but I wasn't defending anyone but myself.
05-12-2017 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Again, I think we are discussing two different things. Happiness and productivity aren't really what's being discussed.

Whenever IQ is discussed all of these other topics get introduced because it is so politicized. The people doing these studies have improved their methods to get rid of as much noise as possible. EQ is just another layer of that noise.

IQ is extremely important and some people believe it's the most important single factor in assessing a person's chance of success. I don't see an issue with that, even though I have seen countless examples that may go against it.
No we are discussing the same thing. New evidence and certain researchers are showing that eq is indeed a better indicator of success.

Fwiw i dont feel strongly either way. I just exposed to it from a lecture at work. It makes sense but there are a number of clear issues with accuracy and definition.
05-12-2017 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
No we are discussing the same thing. New evidence and certain researchers are showing that eq is indeed a better indicator of success.

Fwiw i dont feel strongly either way. I just exposed to it from a lecture at work. It makes sense but there are a number of clear issues with accuracy and definition.
Here dude, listen to Peterson talk about IQ in general. He also touches on EQ. Skip to the 9 minute Mark if you wish.





Both are pretty fascinating. Let me know if this influences your thoughts at all. If you don't wish to even watch it, then that's fine too.

Last edited by wil318466; 05-12-2017 at 07:38 PM.
05-12-2017 , 08:05 PM
Some people don't think the contents of their bank account are a necessary component to their definition of success.
05-12-2017 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord_Crispen
Some people don't think the contents of their bank account are a necessary component to their definition of success.
Some people think driving with their feet is a good idea, too.
05-12-2017 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by amoeba
Arbiters shouldnt have to show anything. Its irrelevant. Nor should the case be framed in any way.
That's just your opinion man.

It's up to the two posters in question to negotiate whatever arbitration mandate and process they both can agree to. Both are making 'demands', so to speak. Neither are right -nor- wrong. Everything is on the table. Whatever floats their boats.

I would like to point out, however, that the fact the two posters can't even agree WTF they were even betting on (and the fact that the fool can't even articulate his objections), this long after the bet was booked, argues strongly for a reasonable decision of no-action.
05-12-2017 , 08:42 PM
Folks, this is why you don't enter bets with 2+2 leftist scum. When they lose, they will do everything they can to ensure they don't pay. And the other scum will come out and try to help them!

Lol at you.

      
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