Ahhh I see. I guess I knew that. I'm just used to re entries being the norm


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Stones tournaments use a single re-entry format. We do not offer re-buy or add on tournaments.

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I went to a Florida room a few months ago and rebuys at your seat was the norm. I had forgotten that used to be common place. I don't see it much anymore and in fact not sure I play at any ca card room that offers that.

One last thing I would like to see a 75-150. First four levels could be

50-100
75-150
100-200
100-200 25

Is the current structure listed anywhere?

I'd like to see:

25/50
50/100
100/200
150/300 (race off $25 chips) (15 min levels 1-4 then 20 min levels the rest of the tournament)
200/400
300/600
400/800
600/1200 (break)
1000/2000
1500/3000
2000/4000
3000/6000 (break)
4000/8000
6000/12000
8000/16000
10000/20000 (break)


If antes were to be put in play then this structure:

25/50
50/100
100/200
150/300 (BREAK)
200/400 A 25
300/600 A 50
400/800 A 75
600/1200 A 100 (break)
1000/2000 A200
1500/3000 A300
2000/4000 A400
3000/6000 A500 (break)
4000/8000 A1000
6000/12000 A1000
8000/16000 A2000
10000/20000 A2000 (break)

Too many people getting fancy with their own versions of structures, just ask for the exact structure a well ran / high level tournament has, they think about their structures and know more about them than any of us

Wpt /wsop(-c) etc

Best tournament structure I've played outside of the WSOP Main Event: http://www.hptpoker.com/structure.pdf

That being said, these daily tournaments can't take 6-7 hours to complete either..some people do have to work sometimes

Well of course you cannot expect them to have 1 hour blind levels

I wouldn't expect them to in a daily tournament. The HPT had 40 min levels on Day 1...I like how the chip levels go up though...tons of play.

Even with 40 minute levels this Sunday I think we may have to work hard to get everyone in. I'm not 100% sure that we can get a policy change by this event but I am visiting the idea of getting every alternate that registers before level 4 ends, into the tournament guaranteed.

We are still reviewing how this would work for the room and the positives and negatives of how the players will be effected. Either way I recommended registering early if you are concerned about being an alternate. Up to 24 hours in advance is allowed!

Either way though, I'm excited about this coming Sundays event! It's Stones very first ever $225 event. $20k guaranteed! Only downside is that I have to work it, when I want to play in it soooooo bad!


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Hopefully mgmt lets you utilize another table at least on Sunday's tourney and implement the new rule.

Another thing that might be interesting especially since so many in Sac are chop happy, maybe on a Friday night or something run a $100 buy in survivor turbo where the prize pool is evenly distributed like a satellite. Structure it so it lasts about 6 or 7hrs.

I'm 99% certain I will be able to utilize every available table this weekend.

Unfortunately the Friday night tournament may get yanked, I should know shortly. We just don't have enough tables because there's so many live games, which is really exciting on a whole other level!

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I'm gonna go ahead and say that Friday night and Saturday night tournaments are a BAD idea. They take up too much valuable cash game space and create huge waitlists.

Someone hire this man.

Well not too particular on the day, was more just throwing out the idea of having that format.

Also a $550 would be cool, 40 min blinds, but with a flatter blind structure. Maybe have it once a quarter and run a bunch of satellites and promotions around it. Do like a $50k gtd.

Seems like a no brainer for a new room with that much traffic

But yeah, +1 to barber

Suggestion:

Stones may want to offer a Thursday 6:30pm $55 buy-in tourney instead of on Friday 6:30pm so that all 15 tables can be used for cash games on Friday.

The only competition in the Sacramento market for a regularly-scheduled Thursday night tourney is the $55 buy-in at Royale.

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A Thursday night tourney at Stones would essentially be the final dagger for Royale, which has lost virtually every niche in the market:

- Omaha Hi-Lo - Capitol took the business away (by hiring the former host at Royale)
- morning daily tourneys - lost 90% of players after chip-palming scandal

Thank you for this suggestion. We are already considering a Thursday night series. I have been working out the details this week and should have a trial program running by September.

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Yes, I understood what you meant and having this as a regular format is my ultimate goal. I was just saying that my hope is to implement it by this weekend. Once implemented it would apply to all events.

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wasn't living in sac when the "chip palming scandal" happened at Royale. Googled it and nothing showed up but would love to hear the story from those in the know.

I don't know anything and this all speculation. But what I think happened is a guy, just for the sake of a name let's call him "Bluey" would steal tournament chips off the table and would bring them into future tournaments, not play any hands and basically fold into the money using the chips he stole from the previous tournaments to keep him alive through the blinds.

He eventually got caught, banned, brought back, then maybe banned again? Something to that effect. But yeah that's the gist of it if I were to guess.

Yeah, basically.

The tournament director was all, "banhammer for life, yo"
Then upper mgmt was like, "Cheating's normal and poker players are too dumb to care."
Then TD goes, "**** this, I'm audi9000."

Sounds like a classy situation all around. Is "bluey" supposed to hint to the actually someone or is it actually just a random name you gave lol? How did bluey get caught? Was it by another player(s) who had suspicion and then caught him or the staff?

Lol

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TD was vigilant about chip inventory and discovered consistent variances in final table chip counts. TD started tracking players over a six week period and narrowed it down to two players as possible culprits. The next time a variance was discovered, the two players were watched on camera until one was discovered palming a significant amount of chips and leaving the room with them. Player admitted to the offense when confronted. Player was 86d. Player appealed to owner of the club claiming that he was unaware that there was anything wrong with his actions. The owner re-instated the player. The owner and management created a fake story to tell the players about the cheater and instructed the TD to collaborate in their lie stating that it was part of his job to do so. That's when TD said " !#&$ audi 9000" and such.

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