Is the Mohegan floor always this incompetent, its starting to sound worse then FW's floor, IE, ive been a card room manager for 15 years and haven't heard anyone say spread the pot?? I would of told the floor im fighting back the urge to drop kick you in the chest and spread the goddamn pot.
I think the problem is that most of the floor people at MS are not poker players. They are people that have worked in a casino for a long time. They read a poker rules book, and then they are in charge of the poker room.
I'm pretty sure I played those dudes last w/e and found them to be obnoxious soft-playing aggro-monkeys. I thought they were crazy action so I didn't complain. I could see how their words could offend. And I was very suspicious of the soft playing. I was afraid of a raising war and collusion to get a 3rd player to fold. I never saw that however. These guys seem to be big tippers.
Are dealers reluctant to police the rude regulars because they are good tippers? I could envision a dealers thought process being why bite the hand that feeds. One of the few negatives about dealers keeping tips?
Sounds like a pretty frustrating situation. Did you comment to the players first on their softplaying? I find that sometimes that may make the situation worse, but may also put a player on tilt!
I am surprised you were able to move tables as it seems lately MS has been running MM and MMM tables so there is only one main game. I am still trying to figure out the rationale for that one.
Sounds about right. Were you at my table? I was the kid with the white t-shirt, earbud headphones.
were u the one that showed the 7d on the river in that big pot?
if so i was in the 2 seat and recognize the 2 asian kids checking down hands hu. usually my rule of thumb is if they are good for the game, its no big deal. that 2/5 and 5/10 game at mohegan is so good you have to take the good (awesome games) with the bad (annoying ******ed regs).
were u the one that showed the 7d on the river in that big pot?
if so i was in the 2 seat and recognize the 2 asian kids checking down hands hu. usually my rule of thumb is if they are good for the game, its no big deal. that 2/5 and 5/10 game at mohegan is so good you have to take the good (awesome games) with the bad (annoying ******ed regs).
If you mean where I c/r the flop with a FD and got there, yep.
Pretty sure every person at the table dropped their jaw at me after seeing me do that without the nuts on the flop, lol.
Sorry if this has been answered, but are their any prelim events for the NAPT? If so, are they posted anywhere? Looked around on the MS website and didn't see anything but the satellites and steps to the Main Event.
The HALF RAKE specials advertised at 3-6 holdem games superbowl weekend
Were NOT really half rake. They took a 1.00 at 10.00 and a 1.00 at 20.00.
Most pots I saw in the limited time I played before seeing this and complaining. were in the $20.00's and they took 2.00 so that's FULL . They should have taken 1.00 at 10.00 and 1.00 at 30.00 to make games half rake. Floor says well that's the way they do it. If so they should advertise it
as 2.00 MAX rake, or post details on table. Table had promotion sign saying
half rake/half time. First floor I went to didn't even know promotion was going on. Manager told me that's the way they do it. I wanted to bring this up with gaming commision as I know at foxwoods they care what is advertised in poker room but I left instead.
I played $1/$2 for about 8 hours yesterday (2-10pm). Here are some things of note. Apologies if any of this is old news; I don't usually monitor this thread and despite having gone to Mohegan more than a dozen times I've only played poker there once for a couple of hours last year.
The casino was pretty empty compared to a usual day, but the poker room seemed well populated. There was no list for 1-2 pretty much the entire time, and at least one 2-5 table was always running as far as I could tell. By the end of the night there were several going.
They did manage to get a 1-5 stud game going, and, as expected, from what I could see those who sat were as likely to have their AARP card swiped as their players club card.
Overall, there was a good range of ages and personalities. I found the room to be surprisingly devoid of a$$holes and "internet types", but maybe it was just my table and/or the time/date I was there.
There was a $1/$2 PLO interest list the entire time, but it never got to more than 5 people. I also don't think there was a 5-10 game called before I left. They weren't pushing the SNGs much, and I'm not even sure one ran while I was there. Basically it was 1-2, 2-5 or tournies.
The $100 7:30 PM bounty tourney got 80 runners (usually 100 according to the dealers). Terrible structure IMO ($25 per bounty, $20 rake, $55 prize pool). I guess they want action and for the thing to wind down quickly. Starting stack was 6000 chips. By the time I left at 10:30pm there were something like 20 players still in it. I didn't enter but was seated right nearby. Noon tourney got barely 20, and 10:30 tourney had 50ish.
Drink service was BEYOND HORRIBLE. It wasn't great to start but became much worse as it got to be later in the day. Between 7pm and when I left the waitress came twice - yes, twice. I think it's simply a matter of understaffing.
They were unable to get a $160 intro satellite tourney for a Venetian package running, and all they needed was 5 people, since the prize was a $700 ticket for a SNG where the winner gets a $6500 travel package to the NAPT event. I'm not kidding when I say the floor announced "we only need three players for the . . . . . " about 75 times. I'm not sure how that bodes for the NAPT.
High hand jackpots that were hit while I was there: quad 10s, quad queens, str8 flush (I think). The only payout I know of was for the quad 10s - $600ish. That was right after I sat down.
The shuffle machine at my table sliced the cards three times. Is that normal?
I saw about 10 different dealers at my table. All were at least average, with most well above average. They kept things going at a nice pace. And since I was in the 1 seat I had a chance to talk with all of them, and found most to be affable. Jeremy and George stood out in particular as excellent in all facets.
I was amazed at how if you walked across the room the temperature literally changed about 10 degrees (hottest near the restroom, coolest neat the tourney area). How is that?
I won't bore everyone with bad beat stories, because I really don't have any. I didn't get great cards and ended up down about $250 mostly due to big pairs getting outflopped, AKs not hitting, and chasing priced in nut flush draws and missing on each and every one. There was a lot more limping than I would've expected. A good number of hands each orbit would be unraised with 5 taking the flop. Raising did little to thin the ranks. I did not take a single hand down preflop except when I 3 bet to 90 with KK. I only managed to get heads up once going to the flop, and it's not like I was raising to $7. Very frustrating, as this is not a style that is well suited to my game. I contemplated a table change but inertia won in the end.
Two interesting hands of note, not so much from how they were played but what the cards were:
1) Several see the flop of J, 8, 5. After the turn it's down to 2 players - an okay player and a very good player from Minnesota who just happened to be getting slammed with the deck (turned $100 into over $1000 in less than 2 hours). Bet and call, or bet and raise and call; I can't remember. Turn is a queen. More betting, this time with at least one raise. River is another queen. More betting. At showdown both basically say "I got counterfeited." Turns out one had J5 and the other had J8. Chop it up!! Not a hand you see every day.
2) Four guys get to the river on a board with 5 different cards. All four turn over and ace high takes it. I can't remember for sure, but I think each of them had two different cards and none were the same, which would mean that all 13 different possible cards in the deck were represented. People always go nuts when they see AA vs. KK vs. QQ or something like that, but this is probably just as rare, if not more so. Cue someone doing the math....
I hope this was enjoyable or informative. I hope to see some of you there the next time I'm around.
Last edited by Rizzeedizzee; 02-12-2010 at 09:42 PM.
Interesting about the NAPT sats...wonder why people are not jumping on that...Price I guess. I would play in a $35 to get to $160/token to get to $700, to win $6500!
Agree with the drink service. One or two nice waitresses who are attentive, but the rest seem overwhelmed and may sometime have an attitude.
Famous line....I don't have your section but will send _____ right over. Hopefully you will be back soon...sooner than my drink!
NAPT sats? Its like forever until the event and there are several other tourney Series before then. So buyins r spent on other sats. As it gets closer they will do better. Going to be a great event.
The HALF RAKE specials advertised at 3-6 holdem games superbowl weekend
Were NOT really half rake. They took a 1.00 at 10.00 and a 1.00 at 20.00.
Most pots I saw in the limited time I played before seeing this and complaining. were in the $20.00's and they took 2.00 so that's FULL . They should have taken 1.00 at 10.00 and 1.00 at 30.00 to make games half rake. Floor says well that's the way they do it. If so they should advertise it
as 2.00 MAX rake, or post details on table. Table had promotion sign saying
half rake/half time. First floor I went to didn't even know promotion was going on. Manager told me that's the way they do it. I wanted to bring this up with gaming commision as I know at foxwoods they care what is advertised in poker room but I left instead.
(Long time lurker in foxwoods thread, new poster)
10% up to $2 when its normally 10% up to $4 is half rake. If it had to be your way (5% up to $2), they wouldn't even take the first $1 until there was a $20 pot.
There was a $1/$2 PLO interest list the entire time, but it never got to more than 5 people. I also don't think there was a 5-10 game called before I left. They weren't pushing the SNGs much, and I'm not even sure one ran while I was there. Basically it was 1-2, 2-5 or tournies.
There's only 1 way to get this game going. Every half hour ask the floor or the brush to annouce over the PA "intrest list for 1-2 PLO" Once you get about 6 or 7 on the list, ask the floor to start a game (MS will call a new game with 6 on the list; FW needs about 15). And don't be afraid to start in shorthanded. Last time we started this game 3 handed and it was full with a list within a half hour. I don't know whats going on every time I sit in a short handed game it fills up quickly; and then when I go home the game breaks ???
There was a $1/$2 PLO interest list the entire time, but it never got to more than 5 people.
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Originally Posted by rrb
There's only 1 way to get this game going. Every half hour ask the floor or the brush to annouce over the PA "intrest list for 1-2 PLO" Once you get about 6 or 7 on the list, ask the floor to start a game (MS will call a new game with 6 on the list; FW needs about 15). And don't be afraid to start in shorthanded. Last time we started this game 3 handed and it was full with a list within a half hour. I don't know whats going on every time I sit in a short handed game it fills up quickly; and then when I go home the game breaks ???
One table of PLO went off this afternoon around 2. I think it started 6 or 7 handed and filled up by 3. Don't know anything else about it because I didn't play. Nice though that when they called the came, they said they had a couple of seats for PLO "the poker game of the future."
Was anybody at the $1/$2 table yesterday with that middle-aged, heavy-set woman with the southern accent? She was so terrible but when I left she had a stack around $1k.
On one hand, she called down a 4-flush board with a K8o, with her 8 completing the flush for a $500 pot. The kid she was heads-up with made a great re-raise on the river with nothing and any decent poker player would fold there. She said she didn't think he was bluffing, she just thought she had a higher flush...with an 8...
On another hand, she called $21 preflop with K5o and connected, taking down the pot. She then turned to me and informed me that she never folds ANY king because, "One time I folded a K and the flop came 3 kings and I woulda had 4 of a kind!" I didn't even know what to say to her but hope she continues to play because next time she won't run like Christ.
