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04-28-2010 , 08:25 PM
Those bottom sets are killer, I got stacked with set over set for 300 a week ago, myself x_x. How was the action at your table? The action at mine was definitely down, but I think people were more willing to call value bets with top pair as a result, so I cannot complain.

I will be back on Friday, anyone else? Same grey hoodie, same 80s sunglasses (one of the floormen actually remarked that he liked them last night ), maybe for some 2/5, and if you see me, feel free give me a "sup bro".
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04-28-2010 , 09:01 PM
Who else is playing the 10k guarantee?
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04-28-2010 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by IWearSportsJerseys
Those bottom sets are killer, I got stacked with set over set for 300 a week ago, myself x_x. How was the action at your table? The action at mine was definitely down, but I think people were more willing to call value bets with top pair as a result, so I cannot complain.

I will be back on Friday, anyone else? Same grey hoodie, same 80s sunglasses (one of the floormen actually remarked that he liked them last night ), maybe for some 2/5, and if you see me, feel free give me a "sup bro".
I will be there on Friday night. Sometime around 6ish, I would say.
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04-28-2010 , 09:34 PM
1/2 or 2/5? =)
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04-28-2010 , 09:38 PM
Anybody going to be down there Thursday night? I should be down there 'round six to make my monthly donation.
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04-28-2010 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by IWearSportsJerseys
1/2 or 2/5? =)
Undecided. Depends on my mood.
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04-28-2010 , 10:06 PM
I will likely be at 1/2...although I am off the cooler, so I would be able to have my arm twisted to 2/5 if need be.
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04-28-2010 , 10:23 PM
How is the action like at 2/5? Are the players noticeably better?
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04-28-2010 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by iDonkYoU
How is the action like at 2/5? Are the players noticeably better?
This is actually discussed at length a few posts back, but the general consensus is "marginally better, at best". Some of the players are real maniacs, read my beat with top set against a guy who called my raise with 76o and people calling all-ins with straight draws on a paired flush board for a good example of typical 2/5 plays.

A lot of "gambling", which translates to high variance.
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04-29-2010 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by IWearSportsJerseys
This is actually discussed at length a few posts back, but the general consensus is "marginally better, at best". Some of the players are real maniacs, read my beat with top set against a guy who called my raise with 76o and people calling all-ins with straight draws on a paired flush board for a good example of typical 2/5 plays.

A lot of "gambling", which translates to high variance.
I've heard that too, though I'm skeptical of how LAG the game actually is.

I'm kind of tired of grinding 1/2 for $15-20 an hour, and the rake at 1/2 really hurts. Since I don't really have the roll to play 2/5 in a high variance game, I'm thinking about shortstacking 2/5 with $300 and playing TAG with premium hands only. Do you think that would be a viable strategy?
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04-29-2010 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by iDonkYoU
I've heard that too, though I'm skeptical of how LAG the game actually is.

I'm kind of tired of grinding 1/2 for $15-20 an hour, and the rake at 1/2 really hurts. Since I don't really have the roll to play 2/5 in a high variance game, I'm thinking about shortstacking 2/5 with $300 and playing TAG with premium hands only. Do you think that would be a viable strategy?
No I dont think shortstacking 2/5 is a great idea because the players arent that much better and you wanna sit deep with these guys so you can play deepstack poker...i.e. more suited connectors, low pps and low suited two gappers to flop monsters but im kind of a LAG too i guess.

I went on a tuesday night, the day before the NAPT started, played from 5 pm to about 5-6 am and ran 600 up to 2750..killer session, got paid off a ton from some laggy reg in a red sox visor. I played a long session, so for first two-three hours played like a maniac, and then tightened it up for next 9 hrs and got paid off a tonn.

Hand example of how they bad were.
3-4 am
Hero UTG+1 stack ~2200 limp for 5...pocket sixes
3 other limps

villian in sb.. stack ~500(new to table, so we're unknown to each other) completes

flop 6 5 2

Villian checks
BB checks
HEro bets 30
Button call
Villian call

Turn 7

Villian quickly bets 120
HEro thinks (Thinks hes FOS and doesnt have flush yet) Ships eff stacks (button was shorty, not worried about him too much)

Button folds,

villian tanks and says "well i could get the HHJ cuz i got the
3" and calls and tables A3
( ****ing moron you cant get the HHJ without playing both your hole cards)

River Q

WP donk
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04-29-2010 , 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by iDonkYoU
I've heard that too, though I'm skeptical of how LAG the game actually is.

I'm kind of tired of grinding 1/2 for $15-20 an hour, and the rake at 1/2 really hurts. Since I don't really have the roll to play 2/5 in a high variance game, I'm thinking about shortstacking 2/5 with $300 and playing TAG with premium hands only. Do you think that would be a viable strategy?
Absolutely not... that's my niche. Stay out of it!

Game is definitely a lot more loopy than laggy in general...

Last edited by AnyMouse; 04-29-2010 at 04:35 AM.
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04-29-2010 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by whorasaurus
Who else is playing the 10k guarantee?
I did, yesterday. I didn't believe that the guy at my table was seating in a heated chair. I pushed all in with K,7 just to see his pocket A,A.

Then I played 2/5 , finished night +55$. Wow.

I lost almost $600 from my stack in about
30 minutes making correct lay downs and calls. I guess...
Anyway I didn't steam , but couldn't see how I can play further without loosing money with a beaten down image at the table and no luck at all, so I left.

Well, it was my first session in MS after 6 month break. I'm not sure if I was happy that most regs and dealers still recognized me.
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04-29-2010 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothPicker
I did, yesterday. I didn't believe that the guy at my table was seating in a heated chair. I pushed all in with K,7 just to see his pocket A,A.

Then I played 2/5 , finished night +55$. Wow.

I lost almost $600 from my stack in about
30 minutes making correct lay downs and calls. I guess...
Anyway I didn't steam , but couldn't see how I can play further without loosing money with a beaten down image at the table and no luck at all, so I left.

Well, it was my first session in MS after 6 month break. I'm not sure if I was happy that most regs and dealers still recognized me.
Haha, after 6 months? Good job getting unstuck though. I got busted pushing AK into QQ with 400/800 blinds, oh well. I did get yelled at by the floor for browsing 2+2 on my phone though. Apparently no internet, but music is ok. Not sure what the policy is on texting my gf...
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04-29-2010 , 10:41 AM
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Haha, after 6 months? Good job getting unstuck though. I got busted pushing AK into QQ with 400/800 blinds, oh well. I did get yelled at by the floor for browsing 2+2 on my phone though. Apparently no internet, but music is ok. Not sure what the policy is on texting my gf...
or sexting for that matter
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04-29-2010 , 10:42 AM
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or sexting for that matter
as long as it's away from the table, you guys are good to do both.
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04-29-2010 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by AnyMouse
Absolutely not... that's my niche. Stay out of it!

Game is definitely a lot more loopy than laggy in general...
Sorry what does loopy mean?
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04-29-2010 , 12:29 PM
Full of bad players. If you have a comfortable roll for 2/5, highly recommend it over 1/2. You make more money.
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04-29-2010 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by donk007
Full of bad players. If you have a comfortable roll for 2/5, highly recommend it over 1/2. You make more money.
Hard to agree with this...it actually makes no sense that you make more money. Skill level is.the determinant here. I actually just laughed out loud.
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04-29-2010 , 01:28 PM
Woops insert foot in mouth LOL. Just saw you meant you recommend 2/5 over 1/2 LOL my bad.
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04-29-2010 , 04:00 PM
Just got back from 1/2 10 Am to 2 PM on a Thursday...who plays 1/2 this early, you ask? The 2/5 regs, and they are actually pretty nice and cool to talk to! (although the skill level was very much in question...there was one good LAG and an averageish TAG...and a few that were somewhat lesser). Was up $350 due to an opening boat combined with a number of good reads that allowed me to bet people off draws, but it snowballed when I ran into rivered flushes (people gamble, and occasionally win ), missed draws on my end, and a flopped set of Kings valuetowned me near the end (I would have the river back if I could)...finished up $143 in 4 hours work, which is "OK" given the circumstances.

I will be at the 1/2s tomorrow unless someone twists my arm into playing 2/5, in which case I will not refuse.
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04-29-2010 , 04:26 PM
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The 2/5 regs, and they are actually pretty nice and cool to talk to! (although the skill level was very much in question..
I am glad you changed your mind about MS regs. Or maybe you simply just became one of them?
I believe it's much easier to beat a table like you described for morning 1/2 session or evening 2/5 , when on negative side you have 2-3 really good players, then beat evening 1/2 or 2/5 weekend table when you have 3-4 newbies , who make their decisions purely based on "I fill lucky about this hand" factor, which makes pot control, bluffing and any other
possible logical move against them simply useless.
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04-29-2010 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothPicker
I am glad you changed your mind about MS regs. Or maybe you simply just became one of them?
I believe it's much easier to beat a table like you described for morning 1/2 session or evening 2/5 , when on negative side you have 2-3 really good players, then beat evening 1/2 or 2/5 weekend table when you have 3-4 newbies , who make their decisions purely based on "I fill lucky about this hand" factor, which makes pot control, bluffing and any other
possible logical move against them simply useless.
please, please send all your "newbies" over to my table. i will trade you every last reg i've got and borrow more on credit to offer you.
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04-29-2010 , 05:58 PM
Have to agree with AnyMouse--it was by no means easier, and a good example was when I had to tank in a tough spot against the LAG reg with JJ as an over to a paired board...ultimately, I called because is like did not coincide with him having a 9 (and I was right), but it was not easy and he picked a very good spot to triple barrel.

A newbie? He would barrel a brick and wonder why he cannot represent a raggy 2 pair . However, the one advantage a reg has on a newbie is that I will give credit to a reg having a real hand before a newbie unless he is one of those 1/2 "supernits".
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04-29-2010 , 08:24 PM
Well, let's assume we are in a table with 4 good players (G) including Hero ,
4 newbies(N) and 2 avg(A) players.

Utg N1 limps , Hero in a M position with A,J or better doing what?
I guess H raise 4-5BB with a goal to eliminate at least some crappy hands
from other Ns. G1 on a button perfectly understand H move and relaxing H
pocket range , so he calls. And he will call with very broad range of hands including ss connectors and top 3. N2 on SB calls with A,6O because 6 is his lucky card. N1 - Calls.
Now you have 4-5 players on a hand preflop , G1 who has position on you and
pot , which size you cannot control.
When you playing cash you probably will adjust move to best seat , but if you playing donkament you cannot move and you cannot wait, till Ns kill each other.
What you have to do to control pot size preflop? Limp with A,A? Just to be beaten by Ns lucky 6? Or your strategy is to become a psycho , perfectly predicting lucky/unlucky Ns hands?

So we have a deal. I rather exchange my Ns to your Gs and will enjoy good quality poker with less profits.
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