Don't know about Badugi but heard they will be running 2-7 triple draw soon.

Have heard the same thing. I think it will be pretty hard to convince people to play Badugi or 2-7 triple draw on anything like a regular basis unless they fill it with props. It is rare enough to see PLO high go off.

I've heard the tie between stars and MS will be more of being part of a tournament schedule.

Here's the article:
http://mohegansun.com/playing/poker.html?tw=poker

Half rake on 5/10 Stud on Feb 6th - 7th? I might have to see MS's stud action...

Stars + Mohegan tourneys 4tw tho. Gonna be very awesome.

Do you think with the new alliance with PS that they will run saties into the WSOP?

Two things I've noticed changed recently - the desk staff seems new/different. I don't recognize them. And they ask you to please get chips first at the cage before doing anything, which is GREAT. However, I used to get directed to a table and recently I've been told "1-2 is open seating, just sit anywhere." Well, I don't know where to sit and don't feel like wandering around. I much preferred when a floor would direct me to an open seat at a short table or point to 2-3 open seats and tell me I can take my pick.

I can't complain though because I've done well the last half dozen trips I've had there. I'm starting to assume I'll double up my max buy-in at least once a night at this rate.

The new Mohegan Schedule with Pokerstars Sat Schedule is out for Jan and Feb. Posted on their website.
First let me say this, as in my other posts I’m a big supporter of the MS poker room. I have posted my Foxwoods vs MS impression so wont get into it again but let me say the MS Poker room feels like home but my drive is 20 minutes longer and more back roads I hate so I still get to Foxwoods often.

The Pokerstars tie in seems like a genius move and just the sort of thing that the room needs to give it the push it needs BUT 2-7 Triple draw, wild games popular online when a 18 year old guy in Guam in his bath robe can take money from an old lady feeding her cats in Stockholm is different. This is the middle of freaking Ct people!!!
The schedule is currently so filled with tournaments and satellites it looks like the train schedule at Penn Station at rush hour but once you make since of it all it comes down to this ((I will continue after):

March 27th through April 11th - Main Event April 7th - 11th

MULTI-TABLE SATELLITES TO THE NAPT MAIN EVENT
6,000 CHIP STACK / 20 MINUTE BLINDS

$200.00 SATELLITE - 1 IN 30 WILL ADVANCE TO THE MAIN EVENT
Every Saturday & Sunday at 1:00pm & every Tuesday at 7:00pm until the start of the NAPT.
Also, Monday, January 18th and Monday, February 15th at 1:00pm.

$300.00 SATELLITE - 1 IN 20 WILL ADVANCE TO THE MAIN EVENT
Every Saturday at 4:00pm & Sunday at 6:00pm until the start of the NAPT.
Also, Monday, January 18th and Monday, February 15th at 6:00pm.

Multi-table Super Satellites
Begin Sunday, January 10th

$30.00 SATELLITE (2,000 Chip Stack/10 Minute Blinds)
1 in every 10 will advance to the $200.00 Multi-Table Satellite.
Every Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 9:00am.

$40.00 SATELLITE (2,000 Chip Stack/10 Minute Blinds)
1 in every 10 will advance to the $300.00 Multi-Table Satellite.
Every Sunday and Monday at 2:00pm and Fridays at Noon.


OK, so a $30 or $40 gets you into a hyper turbo with a 1/3 rake. Then $200 or $300 gets you a 1/20 or 1/30 shot at a main event seat?



After playing many tourneys and a good amount of cash in the last 16 months the room has been reopened for its not going to work. The players at MS are not the type that will fill enough $30 and $40 sats when for a little more they can play a cash tourney for less rake and put their money where they want it. The low buy in Sats wont feed hardly any players to the $200 and $300 sats that will likely only generate barely one or two seats at best most days when it runs (most likely weekends and close to the main event) is not realistic either, this is not the MS crowd. All of this to ultimately feed into a 5K event. Maybe if the sats could be used for buy-ins to the other not yet announced other events but that does not appear to be what the plan is. Foxwoods only gets 30-40 players for the $200 and above cash tourneys let alone sats.

Bruce and Rick at MS are smart guys with good customer service skills and nice people that really do care about the players and customers. Not sure the Pokerstars deal but I know they were around for awhile and something big was brewing so it was not a quick thing. Let’s not forget that Foxwoods is a WPT house and WPT was just bought by Pokerstars. Not to mention that Jeffery Pollack the former head of the WSOP stepped down suddenly. Is this where he pops up?
So I think the marketing and poker business move from the MS perspective is huge BUT someone has bumped their head and forgotten what the "typical" customer and tournament player is at MS. They are not 2-7 Triple draw people and many do not like internet poker. They are not $30-$40 Sat people as the low buy in events crowd are played by very unskilled recreational players that are not interested in entry to a $300-$400 sat that they have very little chance to win even if they were really good. They want $500 in their pocket talking chop when 10 people are left. I hope I’m wrong and the new deal knocks the socks off things but for a room that can’t get a SNG off except when the joint is banged out on a weekend and then the cash tables are king any way I can’t see it. I think that the Pokerstars deal made MS drink the Kool-Aid. I’m an old fart so drinking the Kool-Aid refers to back in the 80's when a cult leader had his followers drink cyanide laced Kool-Aid so they would all go to a better place and most of them died.

So here is the thing. What would those of you that are close enough to play at MS think of the PS sats? Would you play them and how many. I think I maybe give a couple of the $40's a try and maybe a $400 but that’s about it. I would rather put the money into a Wed night 10K Guar for $120 or Fri $200 15K gaur or Foxwoods $230 and buy my way in or have the ability to piss the money away however else I want.
What do you all think of the sat offering, would you play and do you think that the Pokerstars influence of starting and offering a much wider range of games with a potential limited player base would work?

Ive heard several people mention the 2-7 since MS PS thing has been anounced. Why is that so exactly? My impression in pretty much every card room is that they will spread (within local regs) whatever games the players want to play. Why would PS force/have anything invested in MS spreading 2-7 or any other game that is more popular online? (though 2-7 would probably do ok live IMO). Don't get me wrong though Id love to see some of these games become more popular in live setting PLO and HA esp. But I would think MS should just spread what players want to play no?

Obv PS and tourneys are a home run though IMO.

"$30.00 SATELLITE (2,000 Chip Stack/10 Minute Blinds)"

i am someone who thinks about playing more tournies when i'm in a poker room, mostly always play NL cash. but when i see 10-20 minute blinds and donkament structures i pretty much recoil. i will buy max in to the 2/5, or think about something like the monday night 230 at the woods, which sounds like a good structure, but
will never consider a 30$ 10 min blind satellite to a satellite as being fun.
i wonder who does, and what other games they'd be playing instead.

i do agree it's good to see management trying something-- i'll never fault them for trying. i wonder if this spells out the eventual situation where most people come to the poker room for low budget, quick fun, and the relatively higher NL games turn into regtoberfests

I believe the NAPT has an 8-game tourney, and 2-7 is part of that mix. So the dealers need to learn the game to deal that tourney.

howardle, I agree during the week nights, the satellites probably won't go. It takes a regular to decide to play on Tuesday and wait until Saturday to play the next level. If I was setting it up, I'd run only one main satellite instead of a $200 and $300 and just have them Friday/Saturday/Sunday, with the main satellite running at 6 pm each night. I'd even do a 5 pm hyper turbo to get the last minute players.

Stars generally runs on-line satellites for the EPT, APPT, SAPT and I expect that they will sent a bunch of runners to the tournament too. In addition, they'll buy in a lot of their pros the first season to get it going and attract the fish.

The satellites don't sound very good. I don't think I will play them. I'd rather play cash. PokerStars online sattys might be better?

I just checked and I don't see the satellite information on Mohegan website anymore. Perhaps they got some negative feedback already? Or the information was wrong???

The Foxwoods Acts seem much better than those proposed Mohegan satellites. Mohegan should adopt similar satty structure. Have a MTT where 1/5 or 1/10 get a seat. Have STT(s) to win seats to MTT. 1/20 or 1/30 just not worth it.

This series will be great for Mohegan. It should be great exposure and cause growth in the player pool and better turnouts for future Mohegan tournies. I hope there is more cash game action as a result.

anybody know how many runners they got Weds for the guarentee?

The WSOP is owned by Harrahs Casinos, so unless they were to buy the MoheganSun, you will not see the WSOP @ the SUN.

Open seating means " Just ask a floor person where they'd like you to sit, that's their job." Trust me they'll gladly help you to a seat @ the game you wish to play.

Maybe that's what they meant, but it felt like a free-for-all. Eventually I tracked down a floor and he pointed me at two games.

if someone who is down at MS this weekend could report if they have any 2-7 games or any other non holdem game please post here and let us know.

I am currently at the PCA and the
satellites are changing even as this message is being posted. I will be
posting a schedule by mid next week. Please be patient as we put together
a great tournament schedule...as all of you know, I listen very closely to
the players. The NAPT@Mohegan Sun will be an awesome event.

Hey Rick. Bring back some sun and warmth with you. It's cold as hell here.

Please confirm: You can use your reward points to purchase entry to tournaments at a rate of 2 points to the dollar. If this is correct, my "I like Mohegan so far and probably will stick with them over Foxwoods for the time being" feeling would be drastically changed to "Mohegan all the way!". Don't get me wrong, there are many other reasons why I have been choosing MS for the past few months, but this is the icing on the cake! In the past I've just saved my points for months at a time until a show came around I wanted to see and got a bunch of tickets for me and friends to go. But now, freerolling live?!?!?

The schedule was up for such a short time must have been put up in error. I hope Rick and Bruce are working down at the Atlantis or they may never come back, it's that nice. The feb schedule is better but it can't be steps like online, let the players use the winnings for any event tourney and do acts like Foxwoods.

You are correct. 2points for $1.00 of entry fee for the tournaments

Hello all,

We have revised and revamped the satellite schedule. We will run step 1 and step 2 MTT satellites as well as single tables.
Ricky and I attended the PCA this week and revised the schedule while we are/were away. Rick is on his way home and will have Jan and Feb calenders posted tomorrow.

Thanks,
Bruce.

STEP 1 & 2 Satellites to the Main Event
$230.00 Step 1 ($210 + $20) 1 in 5 players advance to Step 2.
$1,050.00 Step 2 ($1,000 + $50) 1 in 5 players advance to the Main Event

SATELLITES
$30.00 Satellites ($23 + $7) 1 in 10 players advance to the Step 1 $230.00.
$120.00 Satellites ($105 + $15) 1 in 10 advance to the Step 2 $1,050.00.
$530.00 Satellites ($500 + $30) 1 in 10 advance to the Main Event.

Hello all,

We have revised and revamped the satellite schedule. We will run step 1 and step 2 MTT satellites as well as single tables.
Ricky and I attended the PCA this week and revised the schedule while we are/were away. Rick is on his way home and will have Jan and Feb calenders posted tomorrow.

Thanks,
Bruce.

STEP 1 & 2 Satellites to the Main Event
$230.00 Step 1 ($210 + $20) 1 in 5 players advance to Step 2.
$1,050.00 Step 2 ($1,000 + $50) 1 in 5 players advance to the Main Event

SATELLITES
$30.00 Satellites ($23 + $7) 1 in 10 players advance to the Step 1 $230.00.
$120.00 Satellites ($105 + $15) 1 in 10 advance to the Step 2 $1,050.00.
$530.00 Satellites ($500 + $30) 1 in 10 advance to the Main Event.