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03-26-2012 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Rambo
Any1 goin to be down here thursday? Lookin to get a PLO hi game goin. Any chances of that running?
I will play PLO hi on thursday
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03-26-2012 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mmix85
Is there a rulebook that players can read that lists in detail all the policies and rules of foxwoods poker?

I just saw a ruling last night at 5-10nl that they literally stopped the game for 15+ minutes arguing over. Basically a player was faced with a bet on the river and quietly said call and proceeded to flip his cards face up towards the middle of the table. The dealer who did not hear him say call for some reason grabbed and mucked this face up hand. The other player seeing his opponents cards mucked then mucked his own hand.

The second player was awarded the pot. This ruling makes no sense whatsoever and is beyond atrocious. It was also laughably obvious that the floors themselves were not confident with their own ruling, but just wanted the game to move on.



This is an even more extreme example of what people were talking about before about how easy it would be to have a dealer who was friends with a player to cheat. In this case the player verbally said call and then tabled his hand( the 3rd nuts facing a small to medium bet) only to have his hand mucked. What is preventing me from paying one of my broke buddies to train to get hired to be a dealer at foxwoods and then issuing a 100k headsup match to another player and have my buddy muck my opponents cards in an allin pot? As long as he says he did not hear him say call its all cool apparently....

EDIT HMMMM I guess after thinking about it again the floor really had no choice since the second player also mucked his hand I guess. Pretty much a HUGE **** up on the dealers part
Was this when half of the table was standing up, especially seats 2, 3, 8 or 9?
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03-26-2012 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rambo
Any1 goin to be down here thursday? Lookin to get a PLO hi game goin. Any chances of that running?
I'm probably game What stakes are you thinking?
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03-26-2012 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jpsychlady
Was this when half of the table was standing up, especially seats 2, 3, 8 or 9?
yup
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03-27-2012 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by o0ch
I will play PLO hi on thursday
i can probably sneak away from the office early somehow for PLO like i usually do this thursday
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03-27-2012 , 12:07 AM
I dno 2/5? Or would more people want to play 1/2? Want to set up a time to try and get a game OT just get there whenever
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03-27-2012 , 12:22 AM
I'd be up for PLO thurs if I busto the 6max. Would also play wednesday night too. I'd prefer 2-5 but would play 1-2 as well
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03-27-2012 , 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by drwonoski
i couldn't have said it any better. Its not like foxwoods is surrounded by other casinos like in vegas and can hire temp dealers (who deal all the time somewhere else) for the bigger tournaments. the seasonals and table games dealers can go months without dealing a game of poker. You can't really expect them to be as proficient as those who deal every day.

This seems to be heading away from a foxwoods discussion into a discussion on dealer accountability though so lets just close her up and move onto the main event coming up. Anyone entering?

Correct. There are a few of my fellow Table Games Dealers who have poker on their license but will sometimes go a few years without dealing a hand of poker. Yes years so go easy on them they are doing the best they can.
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03-27-2012 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mrdasefx
I mean i guess he should have pushed his chips forward instead of verbalizing. That leaves out the possibility of an angleshoot. If you are going to verbalize your action make it clear obv. Especially in a game like that.

But at the same time I hope they would make the ruling EVERY time along with others. It's crazy to hear that different rulings occur in the same room imo.
this is one of the reasons why i think poker rooms, across the country not just foxwoods, should have a monthly meeting for anyone who floors (full time floors, dual rates, stand ups) to discuss certain rulings and new situations. It would keep everyone on the same page, more or less, but the "act in the better interest of the game" certainly still alters each situation.

In that 5-10nl hand mentioned the player should have verbalized action loud enough to be heard, not quietly as mentioned, and when the hand was tabled the dealer instantly should have asked for clarification and stopped the other player from mucking first. These are the types of situations where you never know if its an angle or not. I suppose if 3 people heard the player say call then it was a call but thats not mentioned at all.
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03-27-2012 , 12:49 AM
i'll play 2/5 PLO or PLO8

and would also be down for 2/5 HA if there's interest. i'd love to see a NLH / PLO mix at Foxwoods. maybe we can start a list sometime?
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03-27-2012 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by boomBAMboom
i'll play 2/5 PLO or PLO8

and would also be down for 2/5 HA if there's interest. i'd love to see a NLH / PLO mix at Foxwoods. maybe we can start a list sometime?
I have tried to get this game going several times to no avail.
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03-27-2012 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by drwonoski
this is one of the reasons why i think poker rooms, across the country not just foxwoods, should have a monthly meeting for anyone who floors (full time floors, dual rates, stand ups) to discuss certain rulings and new situations. It would keep everyone on the same page, more or less, but the "act in the better interest of the game" certainly still alters each situation.

In that 5-10nl hand mentioned the player should have verbalized action loud enough to be heard, not quietly as mentioned, and when the hand was tabled the dealer instantly should have asked for clarification and stopped the other player from mucking first. These are the types of situations where you never know if its an angle or not. I suppose if 3 people heard the player say call then it was a call but thats not mentioned at all.
Totally agree with this and that is what I am saying. It really doesn't matter what 3 people heard. You could put ur head down and say hmmm and the other guy could muck his hand. If your cards are in your hand you win.
I would think everytime.

I love my Asian friends but some can't speak so good and could say faw and intend to fold while flipping hand face up. Guy who made the bet could be like damn he called. At the same time the guy who mucked should protect his hand and make sure the pot is getting pushed in his direction before he does anything with it.

I REALLY don't like the I will whisper my cards to you and keep me in the hand crap. The only time I may hastily muck is preflop. If you are sitting at the table and waiting for cards you should catch them both.
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03-27-2012 , 12:58 AM
I'll play ha too if u want to get that going. Prob going to be down there round 5 Thursday.
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03-27-2012 , 01:25 AM
any chance the poker room would deal a 1/2 plo-plo8 mix, like switch it after a rotation or 20 minutes or so? It would be nice if plo played more often, it's a very fun game. low stakes plo seems like it needs a boost to revitalize. 1-2PLO/1-2 PLHoldem could be a fun way for a player to try a new game. isnt everyone getting tired of holdem and stud yet?

i have a feeling if given a shot these type of 1/2 mixgames could draw all sorts of different players interested a change of pace, and that would be good for the omaha games itself.

Last edited by Sizzla Kalonji; 03-27-2012 at 01:51 AM. Reason: typed mine out before other called for mix games
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03-27-2012 , 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Sizzla Kalonji
any chance the poker room would deal a 1/2 plo-plo8 mix, like switch it after a rotation or 20 minutes or so? It would be nice if plo played more often, it's a very fun game. low stakes plo seems like it needs a boost to revitalize. 1-2PLO/1-2 PLHoldem could be a fun way for a player to try a new game. isnt everyone getting tired of holdem and stud by yet?

i have a feeling if given a shot these type of 1/2 mixgames could draw all sorts of different players interested a change of pace, and that would be good for the omaha games itself.
Dude any newb that sits at the table is probably turned off in 5 minutes. You better hope they lose their buy in quickly. You really think fish are going to sit omaha? Only reason I love omaha is becasue I have been playing it in home games for a long time. And with that being said. I can't play it live because the demeanor of the table is ridiculous. Especially hi lo. Those regs have no future in sales
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03-27-2012 , 02:00 AM
i just think its weird stud and LHE run as often as they do probably for rake considerations. isn't omaha a more fun and popular game in this twenty first century that we live in.

and what I view, the omaha seems very friendly to me recently, not grouches like used to play there years ago.

even a 5/10 horse could fill a niche. an ideal game that I personally would love is a small stake HOE game. they should give back to the low stakes warriors and offer a different flavor once in a while. i have to believe that one of these mixes has the ability to catch and gain a following. they should give it a shot.

Last edited by Sizzla Kalonji; 03-27-2012 at 02:10 AM.
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03-27-2012 , 07:35 AM
start an interest list and get people to sign up. the room will run any game that they spread if theres interest.
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03-27-2012 , 09:17 AM
I played 1-2 plo8 PLO rotation about a month ago on a sunday
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03-27-2012 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sizzla Kalonji
any chance the poker room would deal a 1/2 plo-plo8 mix, like switch it after a rotation or 20 minutes or so? It would be nice if plo played more often, it's a very fun game. low stakes plo seems like it needs a boost to revitalize. 1-2PLO/1-2 PLHoldem could be a fun way for a player to try a new game. isnt everyone getting tired of holdem and stud yet?

i have a feeling if given a shot these type of 1/2 mixgames could draw all sorts of different players interested a change of pace, and that would be good for the omaha games itself.
I don't think that there'd be much interest in PLO/NLHE mix, although it's been discussed; the PLO players don't especially want to play HE (mostly they're sick of HE because that's all that's usually available, and they get plenty of it), and would prefer a straight PLO or PLO8 game, and the HE players are mostly ignorant of (and terrified by) Omaha. But start a list if you want to.
We have had a 1/2 PLO/PLO8 mix game a few times. (Game changes either after every 8 hands, or when button passes the dealer.) Usually it happens because we have two lists and combine them to get a game going.
I will be there Thursday morning and hope to play PLO. I would be happy to play 2/5, but 1/2PLO has a much better chance of getting started (and lasting) than 2/5. But start a list and see.
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03-27-2012 , 01:36 PM
If anyone is interested there has been a 30/60 HOE list the last couple of days... with the HOSE tournament today I would think there is a good chance of it going tonight
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03-27-2012 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by fiveman103
If anyone is interested there has been a 30/60 HOE list the last couple of days... with the HOSE tournament today I would think there is a good chance of it going tonight
There's a 40-80 SHOE game running
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03-27-2012 , 06:38 PM
I am heading to FW tomorrow and will start a list for 1-2 plo.
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03-27-2012 , 07:25 PM
Two 8h in a deck at 2/5. One on flop and one in players hand.....oops.

I have a pic on my cell but can't figure out his to upload it. Anyway they returned all players money.
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03-27-2012 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by nlnut
Two 8h in a deck at 2/5. One on flop and one in players hand.....oops.

I have a pic on my cell but can't figure out his to upload it. Anyway they returned all players money.
How long had this game been running?
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03-27-2012 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jpsychlady
How long had this game been running?
Brand new game, gaming comission just approved it.
If you FLOP the same card, you must draw like crazy pineapple, if you turn or river it... you can use it to make five of a kind. Jokers are added on thursdays only.

lmao
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