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07-12-2011 , 10:55 PM
The three tables and break thing is a killer. You want to do four or five, and six on the busy nights to make some real money.
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07-12-2011 , 10:56 PM
Yea that would be 25/hr worked but not 25/hr per shift. It would average out to 18.75 which i will say is fairly accurate for 1/2 or 2/5 counting tokes. Any other game is significantly less. 2/4, 4/8 can be a white for a pot, a lot of the times its a silver and same thing with 1/3 and 1/5. other games seem to have a higher number of players who dont toke at all. I guess somehow i sit and play a lot of different games and have noticed the differences

More tables would be nice but the last time i took a look at the contract between the union and the casino for the dealers its in there for 3 tables then break. I've heard dealers talk about how nice it is when you're ill and coughing a storm or have a runny nose or just getting stiffed by players left and right but i've also heard some talk about how they'd like 4 or 5... instead
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07-13-2011 , 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by drwonoski
... Breaking $150 a shift isn't going to be the easiest thing either. You say $25/hr shouldn't be hard but you have to remember dealers get 1.5 hours dealing every 2 hours. Throw a dead spread and a low tipping game like 75/150 stud or lately 5-10 nl (used to be a game that took care of the dealers) then you can see how easy it could be to not hit that mark.
You get the idea. If you play anything other than 1-2 or 2-5nl count the dealers tokes during a down and see just how little it can be during most days....
True, but dead spreads already aren't producing any tips, and low tipping games are already low tipping games.
Question will be whether total tips go up enough to offset the slight reduction from the current average tips with table games (one senior dealer told me this needed to be 50 cents/hour, if so that's not much), and also whether high and low tipping games and dead spreads (and weak days and shifts) are distributed reasonably fairly.
My guess is that most of the reg's will increase their overall tipping, at least slightly, and will skew it a bit more toward the better dealers and away from the bottom 15% or so. I think that they will tip a bit more on the marginal small pots which they skip now, add the extra buck on bigger pots more often, and occasionally tip a dealer at the end of the down for a good job.
I would also point out that if the overall level of dealing improves (in terms of speed and customer service), it will have at least some positive impact on overall poker room traffic, which has to be good for everyone in terms of earnings and job security.
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07-13-2011 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MJ88
True, but dead spreads already aren't producing any tips, and low tipping games are already low tipping games.
Question will be whether total tips go up enough to offset the slight reduction from the current average tips with table games (one senior dealer told me this needed to be 50 cents/hour, if so that's not much), and also whether high and low tipping games and dead spreads (and weak days and shifts) are distributed reasonably fairly.
My guess is that most of the reg's will increase their overall tipping, at least slightly, and will skew it a bit more toward the better dealers and away from the bottom 15% or so. I think that they will tip a bit more on the marginal small pots which they skip now, add the extra buck on bigger pots more often, and occasionally tip a dealer at the end of the down for a good job.
I would also point out that if the overall level of dealing improves (in terms of speed and customer service), it will have at least some positive impact on overall poker room traffic, which has to be good for everyone in terms of earnings and job security.

Other things alot of outsiders don't realize is management will not care how many dead spreads you sit on, or if you don't get scheduled on weekends where most money can be made. Especially when full timers will have an option to work weekends again when they already have them off right now.
Casinos enjoy toke pools, because they dont have to pay the employee themselves. And majority of employees like them due to when they use vacation time they get paid for it.

Back on management issue of not caring, everyone who works there knows that every employee is nothing but a badge number, there will always be people who wanna do your job
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07-13-2011 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FishFry1984
Other things alot of outsiders don't realize is management will not care how many dead spreads you sit on, or if you don't get scheduled on weekends where most money can be made. Especially when full timers will have an option to work weekends again when they already have them off right now.
Umm, isn't that what unions are for and the ability to grieve.
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07-13-2011 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Whoop
Umm, isn't that what unions are for and the ability to grieve.
Yeah but business perspective management might need to have 20 dead spreads open on any given day to accomodate traffic, but traffic may not arrive for 2-3 hours! Oh well, just my point of view
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07-13-2011 , 04:27 PM
Hit Foxwoods with a buddy today - busted out of $60 add on in 7th place - no $'s but DB factor was low on tables - really solid play, good convo (Big Bruins Fan to my left and Bald Headed Guy to my right) - wonder who won? I went down to cash games and made a few dollars on table 96.

Always amazes me how many comments people make (you shouldn't min bet a AQ) when they were pushed out of the pot - and the min raiser (me) ended winning the nice sized pot. We should write all of these suggestions down and create a poker training manual....
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07-13-2011 , 10:24 PM
if i have a harrahs diamond can i upgrade it to foxwoods top card?
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07-13-2011 , 10:26 PM
no
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07-13-2011 , 11:11 PM
Check with the hosts. I know people who have been given some perks when showing an elite card from another casino. If you get the right person at the right time they will probably give you either some dining coupons or points or something along those lines, no card though.
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07-14-2011 , 06:46 AM
good 5/10PLO went today around midnight, should go again tomm (today) around same time

good to be back at the woods, IWSJ is now only a semi-nit
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07-14-2011 , 09:51 AM
Talking about the hotels close by Foxwoods, I think the Red Roof Inn in New London (about 30 minutes drive to FW) is a good value for your money.

I booked 4 nights stay this week using a Room Saver walk in rate of 44*/ per night, and it's perfect for me; room is clean, modern and quiet.

Ps: Regular rate is $69.99 without room saver.
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07-14-2011 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by shermanash
good 5/10PLO went today around midnight, should go again tomm (today) around same time

good to be back at the woods, IWSJ is now only a semi-nit
I am a nit?

"I thought I was beaten."--Shermanash in a 3bet pot with TT on JT9hh.

You were so worried that you used your psychic powers to pull a T out of the deck as the turn card.
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07-14-2011 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by niwuc
How are these nightly guarantees? Are they soft? What is the payout structure like?
Typical casino payout structure (mincashes til FT, then top 5 spots get the majority of money, and obv chops happen a ton as we are in East Coast Casino nitland).

The field is relatively soft, esp lately with the WSOP and pros/regs away. I had very easy table draws on the way to a 2nd place in the Saturday $180 15K a few weeks back.
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07-14-2011 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Anakleta
Talking about the hotels close by Foxwoods, I think the Red Roof Inn in New London (about 30 minutes drive to FW) is a good value for your money.

I booked 4 nights stay this week using a Room Saver walk in rate of 44*/ per night, and it's perfect for me; room is clean, modern and quiet.

Ps: Regular rate is $69.99 without room saver.
Last friday I tried to get a room at foxwoods, but as one might expect, it was no go. So I found this place called Microtel Inn. It is like two minutes away from the casino, at exit 1 on rt 2. Got the room for $99, had to checkout at Sunday at 11. The room was just as good, and bed seemed much longer and more comfortable.

In case anyone needs it:

Microtel Inn & Suites Uncasville-Montville CT
1954 Norwich, New London Turnpike
Uncasville, CT 06382
(860) 367-0880

the way i run im surprised he didn't bink the str8 flush
headin down to woods now, wsop live + live poker? yep
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07-14-2011 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ShizzMoney
Typical casino payout structure (mincashes til FT, then top 5 spots get the majority of money, and obv chops happen a ton as we are in East Coast Casino nitland).

The field is relatively soft, esp lately with the WSOP and pros/regs away. I had very easy table draws on the way to a 2nd place in the Saturday $180 15K a few weeks back.

Made me laugh. Skill required to get down to 40 players. After that it is poker roulette. Complete luck fest IMO after you get down to final 4 table or 11pm whichever comes first.
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07-14-2011 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by EdBratz66
Made me laugh. Skill required to get down to 40 players. After that it is poker roulette. Complete luck fest IMO after you get down to final 4 table or 11pm whichever comes first.
Just to clarify- you are talking about the 6pm "deep stack" tournaments being shove fests this early? Is this the general feeling from others? I thought I had read people here saying the 6pm ones were not too bad until really late (final table)
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07-15-2011 , 12:14 AM
I noticed a $120 HOSE tournament on August 7th.
Any idea of how long those can run for?
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07-15-2011 , 02:16 AM
I do not believe I will ever go to Foxwoods again. It amazes me how poor the whole ship is run. In the past, I have had maybe 2 or 3 stays out of about 15 that have gone smoothly. In the rest of them, I have been double charged twice. TRIPLE charged once. Given a surprisingly higher rate than my reservation a couple times among other things.
Just the other day I booked a suite at GP because I am coming down with a bunch of people next month. I reserved it over the phone because you can't get them online. When I got the confirmation email, it was for a DELUXE room for 3x the price a deluxe room would be. So the CS Rep put in the wrong room. I corrected this a couple days later after a long phone call. Then all of a sudden that reservation got cancelled "accidently" by them. After clearing this up and them saying they would fix it, they did, but at a rate of about $90 more.
So I told them to F off and close my dream card. It's amazing how incompetent the staff is, and how I somehow get stuck with it almost every time I deal with this place.
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07-15-2011 , 08:23 AM
A fun night of shermanash and I just clobbering a tough 5/10 lineup, action was WAY down from Wednesday. A tiring night, though...maybe I should stay in my area's Microtel...
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07-15-2011 , 09:42 AM
I finally got around to checking my offers and I don't get free rooms on Sundays anymore, just Monday - Thursday now
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07-15-2011 , 12:16 PM
any plo8 lately or just plo? whats the friday night crowd been like lately?

appreciate the info guys
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07-15-2011 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by aapocketaa
any plo8 lately or just plo? whats the friday night crowd been like lately?

appreciate the info guys
1-2 PLO8 has been going just about everyday, 1-2 PLO a few times a week.
5-10 Omaha is dying.

But forget Omaha go see my new movie
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07-15-2011 , 01:21 PM
howdy all. headed down again (finally) tomorrow afternoon to play into sunday. wondering who's going to be around for me to look out for, meet up with, dinner, etc...?

hope all are well.

-D
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07-15-2011 , 03:59 PM
anyone want to play 10/20 Omaha8 tomorrow....I'd love to play HO, or HOE at 10/20 but i doubt we'd get enough.....
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