I actually coordinated that HOE PC game. Rounded up about a 10 of my friends who wanted to play Pink and we got the game off early (11am.)..it was good fun and alot of action! We were kind of psyched to see a must move list and but unfortunately you got some of the 10/20 2-way people when that game broke who refuse to play shorthanded which is why I guess the must move game didn't really take off...not a surprise. Hope u get the game going this weekend. The room will be packed and of course Stan and his team do an amazing job

It's not fair to everyone to just look at the current hand, you don't want some tables free-rolling for the jackpot.

There was one missing when they checked out at the end of the night...

Nobody likes giving money away, but there was one missing...

Yes, since there was one missing...

Yes, since there was one missing...

Especially since there was one missing...

Happened at my table over the weekend. Floorperson ruled while a hand is in play, regardless of the people talking are in the hand, English only.

Disagree.

Point being?

Point being?

Point being?

I still don't understand, even after nineinch's thorough examination of the facts. If the one dollar bad beat drop is missed at 3 in the morning, a hand dealt at that table eight hours later--potentially to an entirely different table of players--would not be ineligible.

Floor people walk around the room to empty the bad beat boxes into massive bags throughout the day and night and in the middle of dealer downs and shift changes. There's no way to nullify a struck bad beat jackpot by way of accounting for one missing dollar. Otherwise, the casino would have to examine every single dollar dropped into the box at one particular table since the previous jackpot was hit.

That's my point. There's no way of tracing one dollar back to an initial source without going to incredible lengths. Kind of like the lengths I've went to to make this point.

It is standard, and there is good reasoning behind it. Not everyone who leaves the table is just away for a minute at the bathroom. What a waste of time it would be to deal to every chip stack with an empty chair just in case that person happens to come back within that 30 second window, especially since there are often multiple players away from the table for significant periods of time. If you're not at your seat, you don't get cards, unless the dealer happens to see that you are on your way back to the table.

Yeah its always fun watching people slobber over our games and just fighting to get in!

Thanks again to Stan and the rest of the team for providing us with everything we needed to have an incredible afternoon.

Stan,

Played in the Sunday survivor Tournament.

Got knocked out when we were down to 18.

I came to say hai, heard you and tab were having a day off.

May be next time.


GolfPro

That is all probably true, but it was $1 and i really didn't care and if theres any chance at all of bad beat not counting/ floor seeing dealer not taking rake and him getting in trouble/ whatever i'd prefer those things not to happen over a dollar.

The point wasnt whether I shold have said anything, but that I thought the dealer was basically a dick about me saying something. He yelled at me that he was in the middle of doing that (he had already mucked the board/pushed me the pot). Whether or not it is in my interest to say something is pretty irrelevant, just felt it was a little rude for dealer to get angry with me when i was just genuinely trying to help. Guess I just won't say anything in the future (dealers seem to forget very often in 5/10 game).

Ok thanks. I actually thought it was english only at the table whether or not a hand was going on. I was once there and a dealer was talking in another language to a player while she was shuffling and the floor was called over and she was told english only. I assumed that to mean English at all times at the table.

I think that the actual written rule is likely to be English only at all times, but that seems like a pretty nitty interpretation. I think most people are okay with people speaking whatever language so long as they arent involved in a hand.

Read my new book "Profanity as a Second Language"....

If you think about it, the dealer missing the $1 rake for the BBJ:

1. Should not penalize the players if that hand had a bad beat.
2. Won't affect the payouts. The $1 drop is not counted until 11am the next morning, this the $ taken for the drop is not in the current pool.
3. Never would be an issue because... drum roll...

If there is a bad beat on that hand, all action is frozen.. all cards are frozen on the table for the floor mgr to see. The pot is NOT awarded until the tabled cards are verified by the floor and reviewed on the cameras. Thus the pot isn't awarded yet and the dealer still has opportunity to take the rake and the $1 BBJ fee.

From the 2 bad beats I saw at the B, the table cards, chips, etc sat for like an hour until the video was verified.

-- closing this theoretical thread...

Did all the dealers who dealt cards to that guy get fired for dealing and not carding the underage player?

Did the desk mgr get fired for swiping in the player to the interest list and not veritifying they were over 21.

Did the cage employee get fired for selling casino chips to an underage person?

Did the floor manager get fired for seating the player in their seat and clocking them in?

Would the cocktail server have been fired if they had two big boobs and long blond hair (ok, maybe a stretch).

But then again the serving of ANY open drink to someone w/o carding may be written into the employee agreement, but not any of the other above events.

I strongly disagree ! Imagine two spanish guys both fold a hand, then start speaking in spanish. The board comes out 4 clubs. The spanish guy says to the other (in spanish) "I folded the ace of clubs !". If one of the guys in the hand understands spanish he now has a huge advantage. Hence why you must speak only english even after you fold (among other reasons).

Lets get a PCG omaha/lo for black friday!!!!!

Stan, is there a way to make a poll, to ask who would play a Tues or Thurs 11am Omaha trny? I'd say $200 buy in - 8k chips, O8 limit.

I'm in!

thanks.

brian

And what if two colluders are discussing tactics to cheat between hands in a foreign language?

English only at all times and no whispering between players at any time are rules that are in place to discourage cheating. Anything said at the table, at any time, should be understood by everyone at the table.

Last time I played the floor told us foreign languages between hands is fine. TBH do you really think cheaters are going to risk being caught by openly discussing their tactics in a foreign language ? And no whispering ? I've never heard of such a rule and frequently see whisperers.

Absolutely. If there's two vietnamese players at the table and the other eight players are 21 yr. old girls (5 black, 3 white) and the dealer is a 70 year old white lady...chances are noone would understand them. Yes, the example was a bit extreme but it is definitely something that can (and does) happen, no question about it. And the thing is, they don't feel that they're discussing it "openly" because they don't think that anyone can understand them anyway.

I've actually questioned some friends of mine in the game about what they were saying to each other and they actually owned up to the fact that they were talking about what each other had etc..

It happens.

Nothing wrong with them telling what each other had BETWEEN hands